Author Topic: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets  (Read 1451810 times)

TidyDinosaur

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #90 on: August 08, 2023, 09:37:29 AM »
55g difference between the two... not much in it.
Looks like the exact same components - material change for levers and cage.

And more risk of the levers braking when you fall...

jonathanf2

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #91 on: August 08, 2023, 11:17:08 AM »
55g difference between the two... not much in it.
Looks like the exact same components - material change for levers and cage.

55g only? For the money saved, you can cut weight on other aspects of your bike (saddle, titanium bolts, bottle cages, drop bars, etc.) Though I have to admit, carbon levers feel nice.

boxof13

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #92 on: August 08, 2023, 12:18:34 PM »
I pulled the trigger and ordered eR9. Along with many of you, I agree that $150 might not be worth the ~55g weight reduction. I can easily save that weight from other reasonable components. Including tax and Aliexpress coupon code, I got the set for ~$530, which makes things very interesting. I plan on staying on 11 speed so that I don't have to upgrade my relatively new cassette(s) that I bought for my bike and trainer.

I have to admit that the price of 105 Di2 is also very tempting. I had seen listing on Aliexpress ~$850 for an almost complete groupset (excluding rotors), which are no longer available. But accounting for shipping and tax, the overall upgrade cost for 105 Di2 is still much higher vs eR9, especially for someone like me who only needs to upgrade the shifter and derailleur combo.

I will try to give an update whenever I get them on my hands and do some testing. I am now eagerly waiting for them to arrive and install them on my bike.

varialflip

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #93 on: August 09, 2023, 10:35:04 AM »
Has anyone noticed that the iOS app changelog states that they added 10-12speed fonction to eRX?
It would become a very interesting option for those with a itch to upgrade to electronic+hydro but who are happy with their 10sp groupset.

StiffWeenies

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #94 on: August 09, 2023, 12:06:52 PM »
Has anyone noticed that the iOS app changelog states that they added 10-12speed fonction to eRX?
It would become a very interesting option for those with a itch to upgrade to electronic+hydro but who are happy with their 10sp groupset.

Just thinking aloud here

Firmware permitting, you could pair a Rotor 10-36T 13s cassette (designed for KMC X12 chain) with 46/36 CX chainrings to hodgepodge yourself a 2x13 setup

The 32T advertised max RD handles 34T just fine so 36T isn't out of the question, especially with the help of a RoadLink DM

The cassette itself is the same as Rotor's 11-36T 12s cassette but with an extra 10T and needs to be mounted on its own proprietary hub (basically an extended HG)

jonathanf2

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #95 on: August 09, 2023, 09:53:02 PM »
Just thinking aloud here

Firmware permitting, you could pair a Rotor 10-36T 13s cassette (designed for KMC X12 chain) with 46/36 CX chainrings to hodgepodge yourself a 2x13 setup

The 32T advertised max RD handles 34T just fine so 36T isn't out of the question, especially with the help of a RoadLink DM

The cassette itself is the same as Rotor's 11-36T 12s cassette but with an extra 10T and needs to be mounted on its own proprietary hub (basically an extended HG)

Wouldn't the firmware still need to be programmed to shift 13 cogs? It almost seems more feasible to use either an 11 or 12 speed 11-36t cassette. If 10 speed is doable as well, there are plenty of 11-36t options from Shimano, Sunrace and even Microshift. Unless you really want 13 speeds for more cadence options? Also has anyone been able to confirm if Roadlinks would fit on the ERX/9 RD?

StiffWeenies

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #96 on: August 10, 2023, 05:23:06 AM »
It's very much a hypothetical situation, but which other groupset maker would dare to experiment with 2x13 function if not L-TWOO? the big boys are more known for removing functionality as opposed to adding

Another cassette option could involve taking a Shimano 11-34T 12s and slotting a Y0MV16100 16T and Y0MV40021 or Y0NR00200 Spacer B between the 15T and 17T cogs, but I doubt it'd work right with the Rotor hub

varialflip

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #97 on: August 10, 2023, 05:30:25 AM »
Has anyone noticed that the iOS app changelog states that they added 10-12speed fonction to eRX?
It would become a very interesting option for those with a itch to upgrade to electronic+hydro but who are happy with their 10sp groupset.

I contacted LTWOO about the 10speed function and they tell me 10speed is not supported. Not sure why the iOS changelog mentioned this

Liter

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #98 on: August 16, 2023, 01:01:08 PM »
can someone clarify which is the biggest gear range ERX can take? And does it work with any crankset/K7 combo?

RDY

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #99 on: August 16, 2023, 02:22:36 PM »
Anyone tried it with Magura or Shimano calipers yet?

Tdiguy

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #100 on: August 17, 2023, 01:37:05 PM »
Has anyone been curious to run Sram gearing on this group?  I’m curious how the 10-x cassette would perform with a 50/37 or running 52/36,53/39…

boxof13

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #101 on: August 20, 2023, 11:50:41 AM »
Quick update for those who are curious about eR9. I ordered no box and no battery. The package itself is well done.

I have bad news and good news. Let me start with the bad news to get it over with. After lots of debugging, I found out that one of the cables (short one for FD) is faulty. Initially, the front derailleur (FD) intermittently stops working and I thought it was the FD that was faulty. It turned out, connecting that cable to the rear derailleur gives the same problem, and so I concluded that it was the cable. I have contacted LTWOO store from which I bought the set and now waiting for a response.

The good news is all other components are really well-built. I was really impressed. The small hood size feels amazing on the hand. Buttons are very clicky and feel solid. The shape and reach of the levers are just perfect for the size of my hand and fingers. The texture of the rubber hood feels slightly different from Shimano, feels a little less smooth, but I like it. Since rear derailleur is fine, it shifts quickly and there is barely any noticeable delay from the moment the button is pressed to the shift. I can confirm that the trim option is there, but no auto-trimming (they removed this for patent reason).

I can also confirm that LTWOO has now enabled 10 speed option on the application. The eR9 set came out to be just slightly lighter than the quoted weight by LTWOO. See the breakdown below.

I have not installed the set on the bike yet. I was bummed that a single cable prevents me testing them on the road. This will have to wait a little while.

Plateofboxes

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #102 on: August 21, 2023, 04:44:12 AM »
Great to hear. Pity about the cable - should be an easy fix right?

Is the rear mech cage removable on the Er9? Can it be swapped out?

kbernstein

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #103 on: August 21, 2023, 05:02:33 AM »
Is the rear mech cage removable on the Er9? Can it be swapped out?

Yes

boxof13

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #104 on: August 21, 2023, 10:33:47 AM »
Great to hear. Pity about the cable - should be an easy fix right?

Is the rear mech cage removable on the Er9? Can it be swapped out?

It's good to know that LTWOO has been responsive and will be sending new cable soon. Based on their chat, they may also be sending a new front derailleur for a good measure, so that is good. This should indeed be a quick fix. I only wished the cable is not proprietary and can be found anywhere. Unfortunately, it is not compatible with Di2 either.

The cage is indeed removable, but not quite sure if it is compatible with Shimano-compatible cages. Looking from the design, it looks like it. Don't quote me on that though. Will have to check again.