LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets

Started by DutchCheapskate, June 05, 2023, 05:37:37 AM

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Dmgreen13

Quote from: Sebastian on October 11, 2023, 02:41:51 PM
I cannot for the life of me get the RD cable through the chainstay. A cable housing is no problem. But the electronic cable plug is rather long and stiff and it seems there's a bend in the cable entry port at the rear drop out that I just can't get the plug to pass. What's more is that my internal cabling tool is useless for this bc you can't connect it to the electronic cable in any way. So I keep taping it to shift cable housing and try to pull it through from both ends. But no success. It tears off every time.

Any tips?

Can you show it via photo?

lantz

Quote from: Sebastian on October 11, 2023, 02:41:51 PM
I cannot for the life of me get the RD cable through the chainstay. A cable housing is no problem. But the electronic cable plug is rather long and stiff and it seems there's a bend in the cable entry port at the rear drop out that I just can't get the plug to pass. What's more is that my internal cabling tool is useless for this bc you can't connect it to the electronic cable in any way. So I keep taping it to shift cable housing and try to pull it through from both ends. But no success. It tears off every time.

Any tips?

It was certainly a task for me as well - there is a pretty tight turn at the end of the dropout that makes getting the length of the hard plug end of the shifting cable through difficult.

I ended up going to other way - I ran the cable guide through with some thread tied to the end of it, tied the other end of the thread to the shifter plug that will go into the batter, and then softly finessed it down into the chainstay - the thread being much more able to maneuver the positioning of the cable - and then brought it through and fished it into the bottom bracket opening.

It was a small pain, but nothing substantial, to then plug the cable into the battery in the confines of the bottom bracket opening, but i was able to get it done and then turn the frame back upside and retrieve the battery for installation into the seattube.

What a night.

BalticSea

For those in EU who ordered ER9/ERX - ho3 much tax were you charged? ER9 is currently 485€ with coins, trying to figure out how much tax I'd have to pay (proper 21% or less/more?)

cramy

Quote from: BalticSea on October 12, 2023, 05:34:50 AM
For those in EU who ordered ER9/ERX - ho3 much tax were you charged? ER9 is currently 485€ with coins, trying to figure out how much tax I'd have to pay (proper 21% or less/more?)

Do you have a link for the Er9 for 485eur? Thanks

TidyDinosaur

Quote from: BalticSea on October 12, 2023, 05:34:50 AM
For those in EU who ordered ER9/ERX - ho3 much tax were you charged? ER9 is currently 485€ with coins, trying to figure out how much tax I'd have to pay (proper 21% or less/more?)

It will probably be more. There is the 21% VAT, there is import tax and the shipping company will want a nice fee...
Try to find a seller that has shipping with prepaid tax? That's almost always cheaper. I've not ordered big items without prepaid tax since they changed the rules in 2021...

BalticSea

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Quote from: cramy on October 12, 2023, 05:55:35 AM
Do you have a link for the Er9 for 485eur? Thanks
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMUgGy2.
Once you go to check out it is around 510€, then another ~25€ discount from coins

Quote from: TidyDinosaur on October 12, 2023, 05:57:02 AM
It will probably be more. There is the 21% VAT, there is import tax and the shipping company will want a nice fee...
Try to find a seller that has shipping with prepaid tax? That's almost always cheaper. I've not ordered big items without prepaid tax since they changed the rules in 2021...

Yes, you should be right - total cost is around 30% in taxes, at least from my experience in ordering stuff back in the past. But checking reviews on Ali, it seems like people are sometimes charged with less money than they should be. I wonder if sellers just declare the value to be under 150€, but let you pay the customs yourself?

Sebastian

I paid 467,39 EUR + 13 EUR in customs fees when it arrived. I'm based in Germany.

BalticSea

Quote from: Sebastian on October 12, 2023, 07:31:31 AM
I paid 467,39 EUR + 13 EUR in customs fees when it arrived. I'm based in Germany.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

Sebastian

Quote from: Sebastian on October 11, 2023, 02:41:51 PM
I cannot for the life of me get the RD cable through the chainstay. A cable housing is no problem. But the electronic cable plug is rather long and stiff and it seems there's a bend in the cable entry port at the rear drop out that I just can't get the plug to pass. What's more is that my internal cabling tool is useless for this bc you can't connect it to the electronic cable in any way. So I keep taping it to shift cable housing and try to pull it through from both ends. But no success. It tears off every time.

Any tips?

I managed to get it through. In the end it was the frame's fault really. There was some sharpish edge preventing it to go through. I rolled some very coarse sandpaper into a longish roll and inserted it like a small file and sanded it smooth. After that, I managed to pull it through upon the first try.

Sebastian

I too fell into the trap of ordering flat top batteries. I can confirm that they don't work. They just about do not make contact with the pins in the battery holder. Hence, no power.

Apart from that I connected the groupset with the charger. It powered up. Pairing was super quick. Connecting the app was easy. A quick firmware update and everything works. Everything shifts as it should. I was able to set it to 11sp. It came set up as 12sp from the factory.

Still waiting for my wheelset and the right kind of batteries so it will be a while until I actually get this on the road, though.

Dark17

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Man setting up the shifters is kind of PITA. I even hurt my hand just to tighten the STI bolt.

Quote from: Sebastian on October 12, 2023, 07:37:18 AM
I too fell into the trap of ordering flat top batteries. I can confirm that they don't work. They just about do not make contact with the pins in the battery holder. Hence, no power.

Apart from that I connected the groupset with the charger. It powered up. Pairing was super quick. Connecting the app was easy. A quick firmware update and everything works. Everything shifts as it should. I was able to set it to 11sp. It came set up as 12sp from the factory.

Still waiting for my wheelset and the right kind of batteries so it will be a while until I actually get this on the road, though.

You should have read @strayan_rice_farmer 's reply. I was asking what batteries should I buy.

Sebastian

The pictures were misleading. I just didn't know they were flat top batteries. But whatever. I got new ones on order and the wheels won't be here for at least another week anyway.

lantz

Quote from: Sebastian on October 12, 2023, 01:14:24 PM
The pictures were misleading. I just didn't know they were flat top batteries. But whatever. I got new ones on order and the wheels won't be here for at least another week anyway.

Sounds like we are on the same timeline.

My entire rig is set up and ready, just waiting for wheels which are estimated oct 15-20. We'll see when they get here!

I also *did* order a different cockpit, but it won't be here for another 2 weeks, so I'll likely disassemble the cockpit and re-reun everything in a couple of weeks lol.

Dark17

We're all on the same timeline here lol. I am also waiting for my wheelset as I just ordered them from Yishunbikes the other day. They may come a week or two.

benquick

Quote from: Sebastian on October 12, 2023, 07:31:31 AM
I paid 467,39 EUR + 13 EUR in customs fees when it arrived. I'm based in Germany.

467€ directly on aliexpress and 13€ to the post company?

Can you share which shipping method you used? I am tempted to try my own luck.