Author Topic: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)  (Read 1119934 times)

PaxiH

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #570 on: June 23, 2024, 04:13:46 PM »
I also have the problem. Now i lossen the rear axle 2-3 rotations and hit the non drive side rear stay once. Then i can unsrew the axle. The head/washer gets stuck in the carbon cutout.

Second problem is the water in the frame after a ride in the rain.
I will drill a hole under the BB to drain the water. Until now i drain the water with the rear derailleur hole. Last time it was 150ml of water. The water even damaged the BB bearings.

Thanks for the tip. I'll try that tomorrow.
I was also thinking that it must be something like the axle stucking in the carbon cut out. I think it is the same problem with my frame.

My frame have a tiny hole under the BB for water drainage.
Did your frame miss this hole?

PaxiH

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #571 on: June 23, 2024, 04:33:15 PM »
Actually I tried it right now and it was working after a few attempts. Seems like the fit of the axle washer in the frame cut out is really tight.

dinorello

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #572 on: June 23, 2024, 04:36:43 PM »
Scrap out the paint before reinstalling axle

cucumber19

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #573 on: June 24, 2024, 02:39:13 PM »
dont over complicate it. the T47 standard makes mounting the cups that hold the bearings very easy and assures good alignment. The bearings them selfs have some quality differences but certainly not 200 euros worth of difference.

I went with Praxis. its way better then the elvedes BB that besides not fitting didnt have any trace of grease. These come with some loctite on the thread and pre aplied grease for the axle. I got them for 50 euro's at a local bikeshop. but i see online they can be found for even less like this german based webshop: https://www.bike24.nl/producten/272474?source=SBP&indexName=production_SEARCH_INDEX_NL&objectId=272474&queryId=b9d792503aa25b7f4d3d7200318231ba&userToken=3f2f54e6-6ae2-413c-ac9e-ff96baa5b254

https://praxiscycles.com/nl/product/t47-eb-shimano/

Yeah, I ordered the SRAM one through my LBS.  $45 and I am sure it will do just fine.  Decided to absolutely not overcomplicate it and just wait until they can get it instead of scramble for something from somewhere, if you know what I mean ;-)

Stoemper

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #574 on: June 25, 2024, 10:04:17 AM »
I asked Wendy to buy some extra headset spacers but postage is 39$  :o  anyone found any compatible spacers?

This set looks compatible: https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_EQFEjbt
« Last Edit: June 25, 2024, 10:10:43 AM by Stoemper »

dinorello

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #575 on: June 25, 2024, 02:34:26 PM »
Send that link to big Wendy and ask her to confirm. Fitment

PaxiH

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #576 on: June 25, 2024, 03:52:01 PM »
I asked Wendy to buy some extra headset spacers but postage is 39$  :o  anyone found any compatible spacers?

This set looks compatible: https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_EQFEjbt

39$ for a few plastic spacers. What a bargain  ;D

WhityWhite

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #577 on: June 26, 2024, 02:23:31 AM »
I bought and assembled a cheap (13€) BB from Zitto from AliExpress. Thought about testing it and if it is bad replacing it with something more expensive.

My problem was, that the T47 BBs are pretty rare in the german shops and also very expensive.

So far the quality of the Zitto BB is seems great! The bearing felt good and the cranks are spinning very, very free and well. Also no play in the crank/BB so far.

So cheap must not be bad. But I only have like 300km on the bike yet.

I also bought a cheap Scenicx from aliexpress: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005443737998.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.133.78ff5c5fYtLnV1&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

It has now covered 2,200 km and I have no problems whatsoever.

FMayweather

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #578 on: June 26, 2024, 03:10:04 PM »
Build is complete! Thunderstorms and normal life are preventing the first ride but I think we are good to go! ... Except some front derailleur run which I will get into in a minute. 

So far as the build, the only "crappy" bit was the threading on the derailleur hanger was unsmooth, but not unusable by any means.  For the "normal crappy" I think it should be obligatory to tip our caps to the mechanics who have to deal with integrated cockpits on the daily ... chapeau!

So, 2 problems:

1. The BB provided by LightCarbon is fine, except there are no spacers included with it.  Would have been nice to know ahead of time.  You have been warned :)

2. Front derailleur alignment.  I can't seem to turn the Sram Axis Rival (normal, not wide) FD far enough so it's in line with the chainrings, pretty much ensuring chain rub on the smallest cogs while in the big ring.  Any tricks people here can share?  I'm kinda leaning toward grinding down one side of the curved washer to allow a little more clearance, anyone think of a reason this is a fundamentally terrible idea?  I think even .25-.5mm on the inside edge should be enough for me to line things up.  If it matters, I ended up using a single 4.5mm spacer on the drive side, wasn't able to get close to lining things up, and there really isn't enough clearance with the frame without any spacers drive-side.

Let me know what you think of the build, and if you have some suggestions about the FD, I'm all ears!

Thanks!
I have the same problem with Rival AXS FD. While in the big ring, the chain starts to rub in the easier gears. Ordered the Sram FD Setup tool and will see whether this puts the FD in proper alignment. At the moment it looks like the FD markings are over the chainrings. But my vision could be crocked.

FMayweather

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #579 on: June 26, 2024, 03:11:18 PM »
I also bought a cheap Scenicx from aliexpress: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005443737998.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.133.78ff5c5fYtLnV1&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

It has now covered 2,200 km and I have no problems whatsoever.

Also got the BB from Ztto and cant report anything bad thus far.

Stoemper

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #580 on: June 28, 2024, 03:23:05 AM »
Anyone had trouble with the supplied bearings? One of them came apart i put it back together but the seal isnt flush. So im ordering some new ones was wondering which brand to buy.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2024, 03:27:01 AM by Stoemper »

rasch

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #581 on: June 29, 2024, 08:40:58 AM »
Anyone had trouble with the supplied bearings? One of them came apart i put it back together but the seal isnt flush. So im ordering some new ones was wondering which brand to buy.

Mine seem fine.

Got a question on the cable routing for those who are runing mechanical groupsets. Do you guys run cable housing  inside the whole frame?

I'm running the front derailleur one now and curve is a bit steep near the bb, so I'd say it's best to do so, but I wonder if I'm not overdoing it.


PaxiH

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #582 on: June 29, 2024, 10:03:44 AM »
Got a question on the cable routing for those who are runing mechanical groupsets. Do you guys run cable housing  inside the whole frame?

Yes, I run a outer cable over the complete length and used the so called SRAM cable guide (even if it is Shimano FD) to end the outer cable inside the frame with a Shimano end cap. Then I used a cable liner to protect the open cable from dirt and water. See attached picture.

Inside the frame I also covered all cable outers with foam hose to avoid cable rattling.

I don't know if that is the best way to do it, but it works very well.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2024, 10:06:06 AM by PaxiH »

Serge_K

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #583 on: June 29, 2024, 10:21:08 AM »
I had a close look at the cannondale version of these frames today in a shop. the down tube on the cannondale (the side facing the wind) is very much tear drop shaped, it's absolutely not shaped like a bus / square like the Yishun one.

dinorello

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #584 on: June 29, 2024, 10:49:02 AM »
I had a close look at the cannondale version of these frames today in a shop. the down tube on the cannondale (the side facing the wind) is very much tear drop shaped, it's absolutely not shaped like a bus / square like the Yishun one.
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The only reason for LC to shape it like a brick had to be structural. Must be that Cannondale is using a higher grade carbon in order to get that teardrop shape without compromising strength or Weight