Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)

[dinorello]

Hi i wanted to buy frame LCR017-D from lightcarbon they send me something like this:
LCR017-D: USD 560/set
700C carbon Road bicycle frameset. Disc brake. [Grade A super light]

Including frame/fork/seat clamp/seat post + front&rear thru-axles +headset+spacers +handlebar HBR13

UD black matte finish

bottom bracket: USD 10/pc(Shimano 24/Sram DUB 29/30 Crank?) if you need

extra rear derailleur hanger: USD 10/pc if you need


So my main question is
Is it safe to buy from them because i read and saw video on yt about voids in some areas in their frames.
And i also heard about some quality levels you have to choose.                                                                                                                                                 

Yeah if you decide use PayPal so you have some recourse when or if they send you a substandard frame with a paint job without clear coat.   The whole z rating is BS in my opinion propagated by Hambini himself.   Don't know if he's getting kickbacks but don't know what other reason he would spend so much time on the whole z rating bullshit.  And don't let like carbon convince you to go through friends and family on PayPal because then you won't have recourse.

[dinorello]

Do you know the C in LCR017 stands for?

LC =. Light Carbon

[mheusler]

just got an update from Jim, that my frame has been painted and that it will be shipped to me shortly.
So far i'm pretty stoked about the look.

Hoping, of course, that the quality is good. But so far I've been happy with the process, even though there was a slight delay.

[dexti]

How much did you paid for all with shipping if you want to tell us?

[edy]

Hi guys, I am happy to report that after going through this thread I also decided to pull the trigger and ordered the frame a month ago. Today, I received the first photos of my bike which look very promising. The order was handled by Carol who was super informative and supportive through the whole ordering process. So far, the experience with LC was top notch. Taking into account experience some of you guys had with the company, I will inspect the frame once I receive it in more details and report back to you.

[BeR]

Hi guys, I am happy to report that after going through this thread I also decided to pull the trigger and ordered the frame a month ago. Today, I received the first photos of my bike which look very promising. The order was handled by Carol who was super informative and supportive through the whole ordering process. So far, the experience with LC was top notch. Taking into account experience some of you guys had with the company, I will inspect the frame once I receive it in more details and report back to you.

The painting is simply amazing.

[ceres]

Here’s mine, 7.3 kg of poetry haha, just kidding, but it really is a pleasure to ride. The only real issue I've had in these 4 months and 3000 km of use (it's already done Stelvio and Gavia) is with the derailleur hanger. When I remove the thru-axle to take off the wheel, the hanger doesn’t stay in place but rotates, pulled by the chain, pivoting around the screw that attaches it to the frame. I find this a bit of an annoying problem, especially when putting the wheel back on the bike after a flat repair on the roadside.

I'm a bit surprised no one else has reported this issue before. I’ve already contacted Lightcarbon, and they just said it’s normal, but I’ve never seen anything like this on other bikes.

[Da11as]

Here’s mine, 7.3 kg of poetry haha, just kidding, but it really is a pleasure to ride. The only real issue I've had in these 4 months and 3000 km of use (it's already done Stelvio and Gavia) is with the derailleur hanger. When I remove the thru-axle to take off the wheel, the hanger doesn’t stay in place but rotates, pulled by the chain, pivoting around the screw that attaches it to the frame. I find this a bit of an annoying problem, especially when putting the wheel back on the bike after a flat repair on the roadside.

I'm a bit surprised no one else has reported this issue before. I’ve already contacted Lightcarbon, and they just said it’s normal, but I’ve never seen anything like this on other bikes.

Do you have other road bike for comparison purposes? On the fence between this and SC-R55...

[ceres]

Do you have other road bike for comparison purposes? On the fence between this and SC-R55...

I own a 2018 BMC Roadmachine size 54 and a 2011 Kuota Karma. There is no comparison with the Kuota, whereas compared to the BMC, I can say that, in terms of ride quality, I haven't noticed any significant differences. In fact, I actually prefer the LCR017 because I built it to fit my measurements. The geometry has a slightly longer reach and a lower stack. Surprisingly, I feel more comfortable with the lower stack, which is about 3 cm lower. As for the reach, I compensated by shortening the stem.

The frame I received is of excellent quality, and the assembly went smoothly. The BB on the LCR017 is a T47-68 mm, which threads into the frame and is easy to handle, whereas the BB on the frame you're proposing is a press-fit type, which is a bit trickier to deal with.

I wouldn’t underestimate the issue with the rear hanger. If you do races and need to change wheels quickly, I think it's better to avoid the LC frame. Otherwise, the issue is almost negligible, though personally, it does bother me a bit.

[Serge_K]

I actually prefer the LCR017 because I built it to fit my measurements. The geometry has a slightly longer reach and a lower stack. Surprisingly, I feel more comfortable with the lower stack, which is about 3 cm lower.

The LT268 i built for a friend is more comfortable for him than the Canyon endurance bike he had before. That endurance bike (I forgot the model) had a ridiculously upright geometry. My friend isn't an athlete by any measure, i'm not even sure he can touch his toes, BUT the 268 fits him (we spent quite a bit of time looking at geometry tables and getting the right specs for him), and so he's now much, much faster on his bike, and more comfortable.
I am trying to get him to refer to me as Jesus, but it's not working.

[neobiker]

Here’s mine, 7.3 kg of poetry haha, just kidding, but it really is a pleasure to ride. The only real issue I've had in these 4 months and 3000 km of use (it's already done Stelvio and Gavia) is with the derailleur hanger. When I remove the thru-axle to take off the wheel, the hanger doesn’t stay in place but rotates, pulled by the chain, pivoting around the screw that attaches it to the frame. I find this a bit of an annoying problem, especially when putting the wheel back on the bike after a flat repair on the roadside.

I'm a bit surprised no one else has reported this issue before. I’ve already contacted Lightcarbon, and they just said it’s normal, but I’ve never seen anything like this on other bikes.

I love the Swiss flag

[patliean1]

Has anyone out in the real world been able to quantify whether or not the square downtube is actually causing significant drag? Meaning, does the riding dynamics on road feel draggy? Can you actually tell?

[ceres]

Has anyone out in the real world been able to quantify whether or not the square downtube is actually causing significant drag? Meaning, does the riding dynamics on road feel draggy? Can you actually tell?

Since I'm a cyclist and not an aerospace engineer, I don’t have access to a wind tunnel to measure these things. What I can say is that my bike performs perfectly in all situations, even on descents at 80 km/h. I've never noticed any weird noises or whistles like the ones you get from roof racks on cars, so as far as I’m concerned, the square downtube isn’t a real issue at all.

[ceres]

I love the Swiss flag

[Sgt.Hole]

My frame arrived today and all my worries about quality issues faded 
Frame is a top notch without any wringles, cheese and etc.