Author Topic: Elitewheels Edge wheelset  (Read 187314 times)

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #105 on: May 02, 2024, 01:51:29 AM »
I've tested EDGE, ENT, and DRIVE wheels. The ENT and EDGE differ mainly in weight, spokes, and rim profiles. I am not sure about the SLT and SLR. I will consider writing a comparison article about all these wheelsets. Anyway, the DRIVE wheels have carbon spokes and ceramic bearings.
Regarding ride feel, EDGE + ENT are pretty soft but comfortable. But for example, I didn't feel like riding 1350g wheels when riding EDGE. They are not as responsive as DRIVE ones, which are a bit lighter. The ENTs are much heavier and better for flats and steady efforts.
Having said that, I would recommend saving a bit more for DRIVE wheels. They are my go-to climbing wheels (45mm depth weighs under 1300g), and they are much more responsive than EDGE.
However, it also depends on your experience. For example, I would be happy if I was transitioning from ALU wheels to EDGE. But given that I've tried wheels costing over $1000 with carbon spokes, I'd opt for those instead.
Feel free to visit my website where you learn more details on these wheels.

buttcrack

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #106 on: May 02, 2024, 02:14:40 AM »
can not find EW Drive on AX, probably just on their web shop.

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #107 on: May 02, 2024, 02:54:38 AM »
can not find EW Drive on AX, probably just on their web shop.
DRIVE and Marvel wheels are only available on their website. This is a branding decision. They probably don't want to offer cheap wheels right next to their high-end offerings to avoid hurting their brand.

buttcrack

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #108 on: May 02, 2024, 04:02:38 AM »
I understand, but the price for delivery to EU is probably way to high with additional customs and taxes included.

AX gives us the chance to send the wheels past this extra costs.

I have read your review about the Edge wheels and if you could explain a little bit more about the stiffness... I am in no way a pro rider but really love it so I upgraded my wheels to these form the stock ones. I am more of an uphill rider so what the stiffness mean to rides like this.

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #109 on: May 02, 2024, 04:41:56 AM »
I understand, but the price for delivery to EU is probably way to high with additional customs and taxes included.

AX gives us the chance to send the wheels past this extra costs.

I have read your review about the Edge wheels and if you could explain a little bit more about the stiffness... I am in no way a pro rider but really love it so I upgraded my wheels to these form the stock ones. I am more of an uphill rider so what the stiffness mean to rides like this.
The problem with explaining stiffness is how abstract it is. But I will do my best. With very stiff wheels (usually those with carbon spokes), you get the feeling when pedaling that the bike is immediately moving forward and reacting quickly. On the other hand, on rough roads, most of the vibration is transmitted to the bike frame and seat, which can lead to fatigue (as your body gets constant "hits").
Softer wheels (usually steel-spoked ones) offer higher ride comfort (because the vibrations are absorbed by the wheels and are not further transferred to the frame to such a high degree). But they don't have the same feeling that you're going immediately forward. Anyway, if these are your first carbon wheels, you probably won't notice anything like that. Personally, I only started noticing these differences when I side-by-side tested multiple pairs of wheels.
Maybe one more thing: The heavier you are, the more you will probably notice the differences, especially when riding out of the saddle and sprinting. I weigh ~68 kg.

buttcrack

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #110 on: May 02, 2024, 04:49:22 AM »
thanks, indeed it is (will be once delivered) my first carbon wheels. I weigh a few kg more (74) and probably do not ride as aggressive as you do, so I am not really afraid any more. But I still reckon this will be a big upgrade to the cheaper stock wheels.

MythWuKong

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #111 on: May 09, 2024, 09:11:12 PM »
I just received mine, bought the 45mm with steel bearings. I noticed the rear wheel doesn't spin as smoothly and freely I thought it should, there are some resistance when I spin the axle, and comparing to another wheel I have it's free wheeling noticeably shorter. I've asked EliteWheels about this and below is their reply:

"We have received feedback from engineers. Through the video, we think bearing is no problem. You only need to install the wheel to the frame. The wheel can work normally because of the contact area between the bearing and the axle we use for this wheel. It is relatively large, so there will be some resistance, but it can better improve the waterproof performance of the hub, and it smooth when riding."

Not sure if this is normal and if anyone else's wheel is the same? I've attached the video and hope that's clear to see.

BeR

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #112 on: May 09, 2024, 11:15:32 PM »
It is the same for me (and I have ceramic bearings).

MythWuKong

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #113 on: May 09, 2024, 11:37:51 PM »
It is the same for me (and I have ceramic bearings).

OK good to know it's not an issue with my particular wheel, thank you. If it's not as smooth when free wheeling does it mean technically it requires more effort to ride? Or that small amount of resistance is negligible

BalticSea

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2024, 02:02:39 AM »
I've tested EDGE, ENT, and DRIVE wheels. The ENT and EDGE differ mainly in weight, spokes, and rim profiles. I am not sure about the SLT and SLR. I will consider writing a comparison article about all these wheelsets. Anyway, the DRIVE wheels have carbon spokes and ceramic bearings.
Regarding ride feel, EDGE + ENT are pretty soft but comfortable. But for example, I didn't feel like riding 1350g wheels when riding EDGE. They are not as responsive as DRIVE ones, which are a bit lighter. The ENTs are much heavier and better for flats and steady efforts.
Having said that, I would recommend saving a bit more for DRIVE wheels. They are my go-to climbing wheels (45mm depth weighs under 1300g), and they are much more responsive than EDGE.
However, it also depends on your experience. For example, I would be happy if I was transitioning from ALU wheels to EDGE. But given that I've tried wheels costing over $1000 with carbon spokes, I'd opt for those instead.
Feel free to visit my website where you learn more details on these wheels.

I'm pretty sure it is the difference between steel and carbon spokes.
Besides, not everyone needs max stiffness and without proper tests feelings are irrelevant

BeR

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2024, 06:39:58 AM »
OK good to know it's not an issue with my particular wheel, thank you. If it's not as smooth when free wheeling does it mean technically it requires more effort to ride? Or that small amount of resistance is negligible

I am not an expert for answering but I find that wheels are smooth when riding.

Takiyaki

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #116 on: May 10, 2024, 11:00:36 AM »
I just ordered the EDGE 35 gravel wheels. They came in at about 1370g and measure 31mm wide. Build completion is months away but they look pretty good. Kind of regretting not getting the 45s but we'll see.

RasmusWH

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #117 on: May 19, 2024, 03:49:18 PM »
I just ordered the EDGE 35 gravel wheels. They came in at about 1370g and measure 31mm wide. Build completion is months away but they look pretty good. Kind of regretting not getting the 45s but we'll see.

Just received the Edge 45 Gravel here, 1420g w/o rim tape. Plenty of tape for both wheels was included.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2024, 03:55:02 PM by RasmusWH »

rtuk

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #118 on: September 06, 2024, 03:07:27 PM »
Have a set of Edge wheels in transit - Steel Bearing, 40mm, Inner width 21mm, SHIMAN0 - reassurance from reading this forum and also tracevelo helped me overcome my initial reluctance to finally go for a big ticket AE purchase.

Can anyone help me out with a disc query or 3. I've just asked Elitewheels as well, but as it's already the weekend for them - I'm assuming it could be Monday before I hear back.

1. Do I need to source the disc lockring or will it come with the wheels? There's no mention on the AE Edge page [url]https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004767705476.html[url] so I'm guessing not.

2. If I need to get lockings with my discs what version should I get? I'm seeing that many discs come with an external included, so if that would work I won't need to buy separate internal lockings.

Bike is a Giant Revolt and the current wheels are Giant CXR-2 with Shimano SM-RT70-S rotors - those have internal lockings.

Eyeballing the CXR-2 hubs in the frame /fork there seems to be quite a bit more spare clearance on the rear than the front.

3. I'm guessing that's potentially misleading & I need to see the Edge wheels installed to work out if there's room for an external or maybe I should just buy some discs with external and try and fit them? Happy to take pics if it'd help.

Any thoughts/experiences welcome - last time I bought & fitted disc brakes was about 10-12 years ago for my mountain bike.

coffeebreak

Re: Elitewheels Edge wheelset
« Reply #119 on: September 06, 2024, 03:19:20 PM »
Any thoughts/experiences welcome - last time I bought & fitted disc brakes was about 10-12 years ago for my mountain bike.

Wheelset won't come with disc lock rings. When you buy rotors, they might come with lock rings. It doesn't matter what type though. The external lockrings need a larger wrench (one used for BBs), the internal lockrings need the same socket as the one you use for tightening the cassette onto freehub. Personally I prefer the larger, external lockrings for their looks but functionally there is no difference. If I remember correctly there are different options for colors in external rings, haven't seen that for internal though I might be wrong.