Author Topic: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter  (Read 89192 times)

poyo

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #315 on: April 16, 2025, 11:40:43 AM »
Which one do you mean? Got a link? Couldn't find any new version on their site.

Free upgrade (pre-sale offer): Delivery on 14 May is on their website in Europe, USA you won't find that.

SillyMochi

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #316 on: April 16, 2025, 11:47:47 AM »
But what exactly is new or upgraded about it? I cannot see any changes. For all I can tell, they just put a "NEW" tag on the product page and are still selling the same thing.
Slow on the climb. And everywhere else.

poyo

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #317 on: April 16, 2025, 12:47:43 PM »
But what exactly is new or upgraded about it? I cannot see any changes. For all I can tell, they just put a "NEW" tag on the product page and are still selling the same thing.

The new one is probably compatible with T47 and BB386 bottom bracket.

SillyMochi

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #318 on: April 16, 2025, 01:04:35 PM »
I wouldn't get my hopes up  :D
Slow on the climb. And everywhere else.

Lero970

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #319 on: April 16, 2025, 03:48:49 PM »
For anyone having trouble shifting into the big chainring with aftermarket chainrings like Pass Quest:
I managed to make it work by adjusting the high limit on the Di2 further outward. Shifting was fine—until I experienced severe chainsuck. I’m not sure whether it was caused by the aftermarket chainrings or something else.

kubackje

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #320 on: April 16, 2025, 04:05:56 PM »
Free upgrade (pre-sale offer): Delivery on 14 May is on their website in Europe, USA you won't find that.

Sorry but I can't find any info about new power meter. Can u post a link or a screenshot?

raisinberry777

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #321 on: April 16, 2025, 04:27:37 PM »
Sorry but I can't find any info about new power meter. Can u post a link or a screenshot?

It's on the Spanish website:

https://es.magene.com/es/power-meters/114-pes-p505-base-power-meter.html

No indication of what's actually new though. Some more minimal branding would be nice

kubackje

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #322 on: April 16, 2025, 05:59:36 PM »
It's on the Spanish website:

https://es.magene.com/es/power-meters/114-pes-p505-base-power-meter.html

No indication of what's actually new though. Some more minimal branding would be nice

Nothing new, it's the old model

dbeezie

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #323 on: April 17, 2025, 06:50:32 PM »
I have the updated version and the Magene is reading 5-10w lower than the Assioma Pedals.  They were within a 1-2w previously.  I calibrated the Magene prior to my workout last night but didn't calibrate the pedals.  Possibly that is impacting the results.  I'm planning to ride again today and will compare the fit files later.

SOLVED.  So full hand up accountability the reason the power meters were so far apart was on me.  So anyone reading this will not succumb to the same fate, I calibrated the PM when it resting on the riser block I use occasionally when I'm Zwifting.  The user guide does establish that the bike needs to be level when a the calibration is performed through the app.  I think I walked backwards into getting it correct prevoisuly and didn't have the bike attached to the trainer when I calibrated it after I installed the power meter.  My guess is there is possibly a gyro that is thrown off when the bike isn't level when it's calibrated but that is simply an educated wish.

SillyMochi

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #324 on: April 25, 2025, 07:39:58 AM »
I just came back from a 9d cycling training camp. Did about 34h/850k on the bike and gotten into a few slightly wet rides. Our hotel was directly located at the beach, so lots of sand and salty moisture was all around us. I gave the bike a good hose down after every wet ride and wiped it dry afterwards but towards the end of the vacation, it developed a slight creaking/cracking noise. Wasn't completely sure whether it was coming from the headset or the cranks/BB. Did two rides on the turbo once I returned home and still had the same noises. Now I was pretty sure it came from the BB or cranks since I didn't turn the steerer on the turbo. I didn't remove the cranks since I built the bike last year, so it's been on there for about 6.500k now.

Unsurprisingly, it was covered in some nice nasty grimy sand and grease paste. Took everything apart and gave it a good clean: wiped the surface grease off with a paper towel; soapy water for the sand and dirt; wipe down with cleaning alcohol to get everything shiny and remove the remaining greasy spots. Didn't douse the spider power meter ofc  ;D

Initially, I used the bolts and screws that came with the Pass Quest chain rings. However, they were really tough to remove. When trying to unscrew them, the threaded casing on the backside started turning with the bolts making it impossible to open them. Since the casing side does not accept a hex or allen key but just features a big slot (too large for even my largest screwdriver), it made it really tough to grab and hold that side. I eventually was able to hold them down with a large metal ruler that slotted in there. The screws also seemed a bit stuck in there. I first though the white stuff on the screws was some thread locker that was applied factory side. I have another pair of unused Pass Quest chainrings here for an upcoming build so I compared them. Their bolts do not feature any thread locker or any other material, just bare metal. Which leads me to conclude this might actually be some sort of corrosion in the bolts. Luckily, I did apply some grease to the bolts before installing them - otherwise this might have lead to an larger issue. During re-assembly I decided to now use the bolts that came with the Magene PES spider. They feature allen keys on both sides which should make them easier to disassemble even if stuck.

Which lead to another question: which direction/side was the small chainring attached? Unfortunately, I did not take a picture before unscrewing them. So I tried to find some info online. The PQ FAQ/website wasn't helpful at all. No instructions there at all. Only after browsing *several* PQ listings on AliExpress, I found eventually found one with this image attached which somewhat shows an installation direction. However, my small ring does not feature that "two notch indent" that their picture shows. I was about to install it oriented the way their picture shows the specifications imprint "34T AL7875 ..." pointing outwards and on "top" with the crank pointing to the right side. Luckily, I decided to look at my second pair of unused, still factory packed, spare chain rings. I remembered they had one bolt pre-installed. Turns out, they probably do that to showcase the correct installation. "Specification print" on the outside but pointing "downwards". I then realized there is a SUPER TINY notch on the inside of the ring, almost invisible to the eye if you don't know what you are looking for (red circle).

So I installed the rings accordingly. Only had one quick spin on the turbo last night but it seems my shifting has gotten MUCH better. Previously, I had some issues with shifting from small to big taking quite long and also had a few chain drops from big to small with the chain dropping towards the frame. Looking forward to do a conclusive outdoor test on the weekend and report back. But so far: if you are using a Pass Quest/Stone chain ring (which I know many do), you might wanna check if you small ring is installed correctly, especially if you are having subpar shifting performance. I am kinda mad I didn't take a picture before disassembly so I can't confirm how mine were installed before - but on the other had, if I had taken that picture, I probably would have not looked into how to install them correctly and just put them back the potentially wrong way I took them off ...
Slow on the climb. And everywhere else.

ediryppah

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #325 on: May 05, 2025, 02:24:50 AM »
Looking at buying the P505 and I notice that for me the best option (price wise) is to buy from sellers shipping from Poland. Good for me as I'm EU based.

But from reading this thread every now and then I understand there's been some updates to the base P505. Do you think I run the risk of buying old versions? Is there some model number or something I can refer to when asking the seller what version they're selling?

I know buying from Magene is an option but it's >€50 more expensive so if possible I'd like to avoid it.

kubackje

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #326 on: May 05, 2025, 02:50:23 AM »
Looking at buying the P505 and I notice that for me the best option (price wise) is to buy from sellers shipping from Poland. Good for me as I'm EU based.

But from reading this thread every now and then I understand there's been some updates to the base P505. Do you think I run the risk of buying old versions? Is there some model number or something I can refer to when asking the seller what version they're selling?

I know buying from Magene is an option but it's >€50 more expensive so if possible I'd like to avoid it.

I'm from Poland and still ordered my PES from AliExpress china. I can recommend geosid store 100% or you can use magene AliExpress store as well. I don't think there is a possibility of buying older version today. I got mine 2 years ago and later only thing they changed was crank arm bolt which Geosid store sent to me when I asked for it.

Can u share the cheap option from Poland ?

ediryppah

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #327 on: May 05, 2025, 03:05:35 AM »
I'm from Poland and still ordered my PES from AliExpress china. I can recommend geosid store 100% or you can use magene AliExpress store as well. I don't think there is a possibility of buying older version today. I got mine 2 years ago and later only thing they changed was crank arm bolt which Geosid store sent to me when I asked for it.

Can u share the cheap option from Poland ?
Here's one, 2688 sek, without chainrings:
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005008851816024.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.8.7d5913XT13XTiC&algo_pvid=0d810d60-8f52-413b-a5d3-72f1b635f131&algo_exp_id=0d810d60-8f52-413b-a5d3-72f1b635f131-13&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%2225%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21SEK%212688.61%212688.61%21%21%211053.49%211053.49%21%402103956a17464318762562217e26ba%2112000046943412931%21sea%21SE%21190294757%21X&curPageLogUid=7cBb7A8iUgoE&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

There are other slightly cheaper options but only for 167.5/165 cranks.
This one has 167.5 cranks for 2549 sek:
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005008793125081.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.4.7d5913XT13XTiC&algo_pvid=7be53de6-71cf-45b9-9795-51ec848262c8&algo_exp_id=7be53de6-71cf-45b9-9795-51ec848262c8-7&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22130%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21SEK%212549.55%212549.55%21%21%21999.00%21999.00%21%402103956a17464322169352551e26ba%2112000046682785283%21sea%21SE%21190294757%21X&curPageLogUid=N5R1mLe2AAu0&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

Magene official is 3220 sek.


raisinberry777

Re: Magene P505 PES Base Spider Powermeter
« Reply #329 on: May 05, 2025, 04:37:31 AM »
Hopefully we'll see more news on the upcoming P515 at Shanghai Bike Show