Author Topic: Workswell WCB-R-306  (Read 3447 times)

H143

Workswell WCB-R-306
« on: November 12, 2023, 02:44:15 PM »

Because there's no topic yet for the Workswell WCB-R-306, I'll kick things off. In recent weeks, I've slowly been building up my bike. I didn't buy the frame directly from Workswell; instead, I found a good deal on the marketplace in the Netherlands.

My impression of the frame is very positive — it's highly agile and well-finished. So far, I haven't encountered any downsides. The bike is equipped with :
Shimano 105 DI2,
crank: 50/34
casette: 11-34 cassette,
Wheels: Elite Wheels (the specific type is unknown; I've had them for three years).




building up with normal handlebar:


Finished with Integrated handlebar



The handlebar is also from Workswell, the WHB-027. It's well-crafted and feels comfortable, but I've noticed a considerable amount of flex, especially when in the drops. It could be normal for a carbon handlebar, as I don't have prior experience with this material. I think it's relatively simple to make the handlebar stiffer by closing the hole at the top of the stem. I can't find a good reason for the existence of this hole.





Overall, I haven't come across any negatives so far,
the only thing where i am still looking for is a seatpost cover,
i have try the cover of an Tamarac SL7 it fits on the seatpost but dont cover the whole wedge







Sakizashi

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2023, 08:45:22 PM »
Thats not a UDH hanger ... or is it?

It looks like it has a similar design and identical 20nm torque spec.

H143

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2023, 12:49:43 PM »
No it is not a udh hanger it is the same way of mounting but a different shape i think a design of workswell i have search online for a directmount but also dont havnt found anything

merider

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2023, 11:20:17 PM »
The hole above stem is cable hole for primitive ACR headset. Front brake cable runs from the top of the fork through the expander plug.
Needless to say, This method has very poor maintainability. Even ACR frames often use other routes. 

H143

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2023, 03:33:20 PM »
Finally  i have foundation a seat post cover the one from a merida reacto fits in this wedge with an smalle modificaties it cover the complete wedge

Sakizashi

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2024, 06:37:20 PM »
I just ran across a version of what i think is this frame and it looks like being marketed as having 35mm tire clearance. Curious to know your thoughts on if there is space for tires that big and if we are talking 6mm of clearance on all size, 4mm, or less.

surodo

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2025, 05:09:34 PM »
I just received my Workswell 306 frameset.
It’s my first carbon frame and I noticed that the wall thickness of the fork steerer tube is uneven.

https://imgur.com/a/JVwcxuZ

What do you think, is it within tolerance and safe to ride?

lazvask14

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2025, 07:12:15 PM »
This looks very similar to the winspace t1550

surodo

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2025, 01:10:25 AM »
That is the message I received from Workswell:

Please be assured that there are no safety concerns.
 
The fork steerer tube thickness are measured exceeds 1.7mm and 1.8mm. This has been verified and test through our testing procedures.
 
Our Quality Control team identified the fork steerer tube uneven root cause as a malfunction in the previous hinge hole machine, which has since been replaced now.


So they admit there was an issue, not feeling great about that to be honest.
Any suggestions on how I should deal with that?

Serge_K

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2025, 03:42:58 AM »
I just received my Workswell 306 frameset.
It’s my first carbon frame and I noticed that the wall thickness of the fork steerer tube is uneven.

https://imgur.com/a/JVwcxuZ

What do you think, is it within tolerance and safe to ride?

It's funny, worskwell makes some of the most expensive frames in the OEM realm, and all we read about them on this forum is how badly they F up.
My honest answer to your question: idk. I suspect that if you install stuff properly, like the expansion plug is well aligned with the stem and so on, you'll probably be fine. However, given how much you paid, there's the question of should you accept that. And then, i'd email a carbon expert with a photo and ask them. there are several on youtube. I think if you email them a picture, they should give you an informed opinion (specify the thickness of material where it's thinnest and thickest, and I assume the layup is clean (no sign of delamination and so on).
The most / worst road accidents i know of from equipment failure i know of are steerer tube / stem clamping area on the steerer tube. If you think about forces, leverage and so on, the forces that part of the frame has to take when you ride into a pothole at 40kmh are concentrated right there.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

surodo

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2025, 04:10:17 AM »
Thanks for the suggestion, you are absolutely right.
I opened a paypal desput and the manager of Workswell came back to me. He offered me a new fork.
But the whole process of shipping out a fork with production error and not handling the first complaint well, makes me want to return the whole package.

I will keep you updated.

surodo

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2025, 05:14:47 AM »
After they offered me either a new fork or a full return, I decided to return the entire package. Since requesting a shipping label yesterday, I haven’t heard back from them. They usually respond several times a day, but not this time.

surodo

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2025, 06:54:13 PM »
That is their answer:

I don't know if you have a understanding of Workswell Bikes. We are mainly providing OEM service for mainstream renowned brands in the market. We have high reputation in the market for premium quality. In fact, we don't accept any orders from individuals, but Sarah accept your order, and urge the production department to speed up your order every signal day, and finally make it possible to ship out. Regarding the wall thickness of the steer tube, actually it doesn't has any quality problem, all the products must undergo strict testing before put into production. BUT, since you insist that you don't accept the fork, and we are willing to send you a new fork. Now, you request full refund and want to return the completes set frames. No problem, we respect your decision. BUT, please note that, we only responsible for the returning cost of your so-called defect fork, which means, you have to bear the returning shipping cost of the frame and seatpost and other accessories. Please arrange returning all he parts and update the tracking number in paypal, after we receive the goods, we will refund the money to you, thanks! And from today on, I will issue a note in the whole company, starting from today, we refuse to accept any individual orders, thanks!!


Tbh I am pretty annoyed with them at this point. The fact that they still don't admit that the fork has a problem is a joke. They are talking about high quality but send out this shit.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2025, 07:24:25 PM by surodo »

TidyDinosaur

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2025, 05:48:35 AM »
So let me try to understand this?

To you the steerer tube looks wrong (I find it looks OK, but hey... If the thinnest part is OK it does not matter if the other side is thicker).
You ask them about it and they say it is fine (is plausible)
They still offer you to replace it (nice of them)
You refuse this and want to send the whole frame back (WHY?)
And now you are mad they won't refund shipping for it...

surodo

Re: Workswell WCB-R-306
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2025, 07:20:58 AM »
First of all, paying $1,200 for a fork with a production issue is absolutely ridiculous. I’m not upset about paying for shipping – I’m upset about receiving a potentially unsafe fork and the kind of responses I got from them. That’s not how you treat your customers. The only reason they responded positively was because I opened a PayPal dispute.