WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)

[Icyseanfitz]

Is there any good tutorial for initial setup? I've this on the way for a new build

[biceryder]

Someone on this thread posted a good tutorial.  BLUF:

set the FD up so that you are on the big ring

move the RD to the smallest sprocket (11t)

place a chain on it.  Use the "initial calibration" function to align the RD with the 11t.  Test shift.  Repeat until you are comfortable with the shifting.

Next set the FD.  After that is set return to the RD and test shifts in all gears up and down.

I have always encountered a little bit of noise or hesitation in gears 5, 6, and 7.  Use "fine tuning" and move in 3-5 increments in either direction to get rid of the noise.


I have done this with 11spd Shimano cassette and chain.  Last week, I moved the group to another bike and set it up for 12spd with a Goldix cassette and shimano 12spd chain.  Using the same Ultegra 11spd chainrings.  Performed flawlessly after all the tuning.

[Icyseanfitz]

Someone on this thread posted a good tutorial.  BLUF:

set the FD up so that you are on the big ring

move the RD to the smallest sprocket (11t)

place a chain on it.  Use the "initial calibration" function to align the RD with the 11t.  Test shift.  Repeat until you are comfortable with the shifting.

Next set the FD.  After that is set return to the RD and test shifts in all gears up and down.

I have always encountered a little bit of noise or hesitation in gears 5, 6, and 7.  Use "fine tuning" and move in 3-5 increments in either direction to get rid of the noise.


I have done this with 11spd Shimano cassette and chain.  Last week, I moved the group to another bike and set it up for 12spd with a Goldix cassette and shimano 12spd chain.  Using the same Ultegra 11spd chainrings.  Performed flawlessly after all the tuning.

Thank you, I will use this to do my initial setup

[biceryder]

If you run into weird issues where it won't shift the full range:

Check to ensure the FD is in the big ring.  Cross chain prevention does not allow it to go into the last two gears if the FD is in the small ring.

Refer to Nomutze's post above.  Some times the RD needs to be manually moved out board to the smallest sprocket.  This can only be done thru fine tuning. 

Lastly, for any fine tuning adjustment to take place, you shift to the gear you are adjusting, make the adjustment, then shift up or down and back to the gear you adjusted.  For every fine tuning you must shift in order for it to take.

[mozart]

what olives pins and heads you can use for brakes? i read for bh59 but original looks like sram and magura. i find a seller which sell kit for wheeltop 25$ .

[Nomuetze]

As per their website ... bh59
Now olive for bh59 and bh90 are the same...however insert are different in diameter...
I used existing ultegra hose with bh90 olive/inserts to build up the wheeltop hydraulics.

[mozart]

As per their website ... bh59
Now olive for bh59 and bh90 are the same...however insert are different in diameter...
I used existing ultegra hose with bh90 olive/inserts to build up the wheeltop hydraulics.

Didn't you have any bleading?

[Nomuetze]

To be precise...
EdsTX on my gravel....full wheeltop build...only had to cut hosings...was pre-filled...no bleeding!
GeX on my Road...using ultegra calipers and hose....no bleeding!

[mozart]

To be precise...
EdsTX on my gravel....full wheeltop build...only had to cut hosings...was pre-filled...no bleeding!
GeX on my Road...using ultegra calipers and hose....no bleeding!

so you did't use bh59 to wheeltop calipers. thats the point , what olive pins we can use in wheeltop calipers or shifters

[Nomuetze]

It's pointless...
As said...if you use wheeltop hose...use bh59 pin/olive...either end!
If you use higher standard hosing like Shimano ultegra/dura ace...use bh90 pin/olive
Olive same, pin different....
That's it....

[dolph]

It's pointless...
As said...if you use wheeltop hose...use bh59 pin/olive...either end!
If you use higher standard hosing like Shimano ultegra/dura ace...use bh90 pin/olive
Olive same, pin different....
That's it....

I m using magura post mount calipers with magura hose,  on lever side i will use wheeltop olive but not sure about pin, should i use wheeltop one/ that should be inbetween sizes of bh59 and bh90? Or should i go with bh59 despite being slightly thicker.

I have read that magura pin is too ong for shimano levers and damage can happen, can it fit wheeltop levers properly?

[johnnyboy4711]

the wheeltop gang (much to my delight) are working on TT rig also.
like a rim brake 1x setup.
watch this space.

[biceryder]

Awesome!  look forward to hearing about this.

[Nomuetze]

I m using magura post mount calipers with magura hose,  on lever side i will use wheeltop olive but not sure about pin, should i use wheeltop one/ that should be inbetween sizes of bh59 and bh90? Or should i go with bh59 despite being slightly thicker.

I have read that magura pin is too ong for shimano levers and damage can happen, can it fit wheeltop levers properly?

From what I see I would not recommend using magura pin on wheeltop levers...as it's designed around bh59/90 shimano standard ... I'd rather use wheeltop insert/pin on the lever side...

[dolph]

I installed the wheeltop eds gex on my steelbike, previously on rival1 11 speed and later 12speed with ratio kit... no luck going to smallest sprocket, with all the tension removed from the H screw and all microadjust to the limit in initial setup it s hesitant to go to smallest sprocket, installed the waser( RD and hanger bolt) that came with it, I found a solution that I don't like... unscrewing the RD bolt from the hanger makes it go further slightly and it works properly.

My cassete is a sunrace 12 speed 11-50 on a hg freehub, is it safe to add more spacers to make it go outwards? it's alreadytight, no loose sprockets, is adding wasers to the RD and hanger interface safe?

I will check if the issue is the specific frame, so i will pop the deraileur on my mtb and road bike and check.

From what I see I would not recommend using magura pin on wheeltop levers...as it's designed around bh59/90 shimano standard ... I'd rather use wheeltop insert/pin on the lever side...

I will install wheeltop everything on the lever side, thanks!