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c74

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #930 on: October 04, 2025, 06:00:04 AM »
Hi!
I'm looking for the width and length of the frame storage opening, cant seem to find anywhere.

Can any happy owner measure it?
A bonus for anyone who can compare it to the Spesh Diverge's SWAT.

Cheers,
C

Andyb

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #931 on: October 04, 2025, 08:52:39 AM »
Chainring I got from this store
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008844119020.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.34.4c791802uxABki

the 1mm spacer I had in my parts bin, you just need any 1mmx24mm Crank arm spacer

For the 1x12s GRX, get your GRX Shifters and Rear Derailleur. Make sure you get a Shimano original Cassette 10-51 on a Shimano Microspline freehub. The cassette is super important to get right if you want smooth shifting.

If you want a 44/46T Chainring dont get the 3mm offset unless you are willing to add more spacers on the crank arm. 0 Offset 44 or 46 works but the chainline is not ideal

GRX crank has like a 49mm chainline afaik so spacers shouldn’t be needed right?

ediryppah

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #932 on: October 04, 2025, 05:22:15 PM »
Chainring I got from this store
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008844119020.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.34.4c791802uxABki

the 1mm spacer I had in my parts bin, you just need any 1mmx24mm Crank arm spacer

For the 1x12s GRX, get your GRX Shifters and Rear Derailleur. Make sure you get a Shimano original Cassette 10-51 on a Shimano Microspline freehub. The cassette is super important to get right if you want smooth shifting.

If you want a 44/46T Chainring dont get the 3mm offset unless you are willing to add more spacers on the crank arm. 0 Offset 44 or 46 works but the chainline is not ideal
I might be stupid (probably just inexperienced) but are they offset toward frame or away from it? Looking at your link they’re all 3mm offset.

Magene chainline for outer ring should be ~47, whereas GRX is 49.7.
So with 3mm offset are we’re talking 44 or 50?

First you mounted the wolf tooth chainring, was it offset too?

And also why different offset based on chainring size? Shouldn’t ideal chainline be the same (whatever that is) independent of chainring size? Or does it have more to do with clearance?

Sorry I’ve never done anything out of standard for any bike really so this is quite new to me.

pieterjnz

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #933 on: October 04, 2025, 06:38:16 PM »
I might be stupid (probably just inexperienced) but are they offset toward frame or away from it? Looking at your link they’re all 3mm offset.

Magene chainline for outer ring should be ~47, whereas GRX is 49.7.
So with 3mm offset are we’re talking 44 or 50?

First you mounted the wolf tooth chainring, was it offset too?

And also why different offset based on chainring size? Shouldn’t ideal chainline be the same (whatever that is) independent of chainring size? Or does it have more to do with clearance?

Sorry I’ve never done anything out of standard for any bike really so this is quite new to me.

So the Magene chainline of 47 is measured to the center of the spider, that's because its a 2x crankset, all 2x cranksets chainlines are measured to the midpoint between the 2 chainrings.

1x Cranksets offset is measured to the midpoint of the chainring.

The Wolftooth Chain Ring has no offset so chainline was ~49.5 (same as GRX) and only had less than 2mm space between the frame and the chainring.

3mm Offset bring the chainring closer to the frame. so a 46 with 3mm offset would rub on the chainstay.

The 42T with the 3mm offset brings your chainline to 46.5 (mine measures 46 with the 1 mm spacer) I hardly have enough space between the chainring and the frame to clean with a thin rag.


The chainstay (the part of the frame that runs from the bottom bracket to the rear axle) gets wider as it goes toward the axle end as it has to accommodate the rear hub. Once you go bigger than 42T the chain stay gets too wide so the chainring will start rubbing on the chain stay. to overcome this you have to move the chainring further away from the frame (Bottom Bracket) hence 3mm offset no longer works unless you also add spacers on the crank spindle to move the spider further out.  If you add too many spacers on the drive side spindle, your left side will no linger have enough spindle left for the left crank arm to grip safely so you have to consider that too


When you look at the picture, you will see that if I add a bigger chainring it will rub on the chainstay, unless I add a spacer on the spindle
« Last Edit: October 04, 2025, 09:48:02 PM by pieterjnz »

TikO

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #934 on: October 06, 2025, 03:28:49 AM »
Hi!
I'm looking for the width and length of the frame storage opening, cant seem to find anywhere.

Can any happy owner measure it?
A bonus for anyone who can compare it to the Spesh Diverge's SWAT.

Cheers,
C

I got 50x140 mm for the opening on mine.

Alancik123

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #935 on: October 08, 2025, 09:56:57 AM »
Hey guys, about to build up the frame as soon as I receive Lexon Unox handlebars. Could tell me what I need to do with spacers for handlebar to sit flush?

robinoco

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #936 on: October 10, 2025, 01:28:03 PM »
Finally collected my wheels from the wheel builder today so managed to get the whole thing complete. A couple of laps around the estate and everything seems fine. Will get a proper ride in on Sunday. Currently have it set up with 35mm road tyres.

Love the way it looks and feels so far 🤩

ediryppah

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #937 on: October 10, 2025, 03:11:28 PM »
Finally collected my wheels from the wheel builder today so managed to get the whole thing complete. A couple of laps around the estate and everything seems fine. Will get a proper ride in on Sunday. Currently have it set up with 35mm road tyres.

Love the way it looks and feels so far 🤩
This is such a nice colorway. That green is sick and it gets better with the gradient.

Really like the build too. Do you plan on running it road setup?

Andyb

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #938 on: October 11, 2025, 09:17:11 AM »
Finally collected my wheels from the wheel builder today so managed to get the whole thing complete. A couple of laps around the estate and everything seems fine. Will get a proper ride in on Sunday. Currently have it set up with 35mm road tyres.

Love the way it looks and feels so far 🤩

Very nice!

robinoco

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #939 on: October 11, 2025, 01:12:09 PM »
This is such a nice colorway. That green is sick and it gets better with the gradient.

Really like the build too. Do you plan on running it road setup?
Thanks - I'm really happy with it. When you are buying 'off-plan' from China its a bit daunting as to what you are going to get, but thanks to places like this forum & other similar communities you at least get some confidence.

The paint scheme 'up close' is amazing.

For the fireseeable I'm just going to run it on the road I think. i doubt I'll take it on the trails till next spring now.

mytrilife

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #940 on: October 13, 2025, 11:47:57 AM »
Anyone else have the semi-integrated headset from Tideace feel wierd when on bumpy terrain?
It's like it feels loose... and I've probably tightened it a bit much already.

Wouter

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #941 on: October 13, 2025, 03:04:28 PM »
I installed a xcadey powermeter with this chainring: https://alugear.com/chainrings-1x/290-15629-round-1-speed-for-12sp-110-bcd-4b-shimano-asymmetric-roadgravel.html#/11-color-black/33-size-38t (size 44). I think its too close to the chainstay, i've added 3mm spacers on de driveside but still...
Any ideas?
« Last Edit: October 13, 2025, 03:07:23 PM by Wouter »

pieterjnz

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #942 on: October 13, 2025, 03:16:15 PM »
Anyone else have the semi-integrated headset from Tideace feel wierd when on bumpy terrain?
It's like it feels loose... and I've probably tightened it a bit much already.

Looks like enough clearance. do you have enough of the spindle for proper grip on the no drive side crank arm?

Wouter

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #943 on: October 13, 2025, 03:58:44 PM »
Yeah, that wasnt a problem I think

Andyb

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #944 on: October 14, 2025, 03:24:05 AM »
I installed a xcadey powermeter with this chainring: https://alugear.com/chainrings-1x/290-15629-round-1-speed-for-12sp-110-bcd-4b-shimano-asymmetric-roadgravel.html#/11-color-black/33-size-38t (size 44). I think its too close to the chainstay, i've added 3mm spacers on de driveside but still...
Any ideas?

What crank are you using?