new iGS800 Bike GPS Computer

[YonyTony]

Is it much better than binavi? Out of reviews, feature of some template power trainings is tempting me.

[Tijoe]

I have a problem with my IGS800.  After my latest multi day bike packing ride, my the battery was at 35 %.  On my drive home,  I plugged the bike computer into a regular 2 Amp charger.  When it was charged to 100% I unplugged it.   After 10 minutes, I noticed that the charge screen had not disappeared.  I pushed the power button and the computer wouldn't turn on.  Then I tried all buttons. NOTHING!The battery charge screen has been on for hours now showing 100%.   Thoughts? Anyone else have a similar problem?

[frewster]

Looks like it's taken a bit of a beating. No ideas from me, but IGPSPORT has been quick to get back to me on feedback and questions I've had, so hopefully they can help you out.

[Serge_K]

i thoroughly dislike Garmin, but my igpsport 630s is a joke of a device. they never fixed ghost watts, and i did a sprint session yesterday, which completely invalidates the session. Every single time you go riding "hard", you get corrupted data. They don't give a F, they deflect, at this point it's safe to say they'll never fix it.
The navigation is way worse than garmin (which is bad already). You sound like you're driving the clown car when you're following a route with the igp630s. the thing beeps constantly the moment you're not riding a straight line. a slightly curving road, with no intersection and no possible doubt as to where to go, beeps CONSTANTLY saying go left, go right, it's absolutely retarded. And they also seem completely uninterested in fixing it.
The gear number w Ltwoo does sync on the device, but battery level doesnt.
On the plus side, my computer mount decided to die on a mean downhill this week, the computer flew off the bike at 60kmh, and it still works. The screen broke further, but it was broken already.
And credit where credit is due: the hardware is fast. the app sync is fast. Getting the data imported back into garmin is a bit of an art form. the export, depending on the format you use, is corrupted, something they also dont seem interested in fixing. if you do .tcx, you get basic data exported well. if you do .gpx, you get more data (including temp), but half of it is completely wrong so it's unusable.
It could be a great device, it just isnt. i paid 155 eur for it, i would have returned it but i couldnt. the ghost watts stuff is just unacceptable on so many levels. for casual riding, it's ok. for anybody serious, it isnt. Imagine doing some kind of "ultra" event and the thing stupidly beeping on you for 15 hours, hell no. And it's not like you'd want to deactivate the beeping altogether, because i m not riding to stare at my screen, and the off course / re-routing thing is also worse than garmin, so if you happen to go off-course, good luck making sense of what's the route, what was the route, which way is the route, and so on.
last: i tried to see if there's an open source stack / some way to hack the software, looks like it's closed source and not an option. if the software could be open sourced, it could be a wonderful device.

[BFBS]

How are ghost watts the problem of the computer and not the Powermeter?
And I didn’t have a problem with the navigation on my BCS300T.
Like the SR Mini it is a bit chirpy, but I like that.

[raisinberry777]

How are ghost watts the problem of the computer and not the Powermeter?
And I didn’t have a problem with the navigation on my BCS300T.
Like the SR Mini it is a bit chirpy, but I like that.

Because it depends on how the computer implements the ANT+ spec for powermeters. The ANT+ spec minimum allows for, instances where 0W is sent from the meter, the prior value to be held and recorded for up to 3 seconds. All serious manufacturers (Garmin, Wahoo, etc.) go beyond that to ensure that when the power meter is reporting 0W is actually records 0W.

From my previous experience, I wholly agree with Serge_K. The hardware is great. The software is not up to standard and feels poorly tested.

[frewster]

Does using BT instead of ANT+ resolve the ghost watts issue?

[BFBS]

Because it depends on how the computer implements the ANT+ spec for powermeters. The ANT+ spec minimum allows for, instances where 0W is sent from the meter, the prior value to be held and recorded for up to 3 seconds. All serious manufacturers (Garmin, Wahoo, etc.) go beyond that to ensure that when the power meter is reporting 0W is actually records 0W.

From my previous experience, I wholly agree with Serge_K. The hardware is great. The software is not up to standard and feels poorly tested.

Thanks for the explanation, i didn't know this.
I found that maybe Smart Recroding can lead to only writing values every 3 to 5 seconds https://forum.intervals.icu/t/low-amount-of-data-points-using-a-igpsport-bsc-300-bike-computer/116972, don't know of this will fix the problem. If disabling this dosen'r fix the problem it is indeed a bad design.

[Tijoe]

Geeze. Talk about side bar discussions...    After posting my problem, I wrote to IGSports.  No answer yet.  I figure it is the weekend there.   In the mean time,  2 things.   1. I searched my problem and the AI response stated to try a hard reset, (which I tried many times.),  or let the battery run down and try to start it again. 
For grins this morning, I held the power on button down, and after 6 seconds, the unit turned on.   -like nothing had happened.  The battery shows about 80%. +, there was no hard reset, and all my history and routes are still there

The AI response stated that this is a common problem that has been reported. 

Now you guys can go back to discussing your problems with the 630s model.

[jfcb]

Happy user of the iGS800.
I'm now using it two years and its a great substitute for my garmin 840.
Originally navigation was poor, but since they did a great software update one and a half year ago, it's perfect. The only difficulty I notice is the scale of the map is different compared to my garmin which makes it a bit more difficult to navigate offroad. Likely I can modify this setting to make them have the same scale, but I'm too lazy. 
Uploading and using routes with the app is also way faster than with Garmin.

Concerning functions, it has all what you need including the colorfull widgets and a climbPro feature (which might be called differently).
So far I have no issues with the hardware: the battery life is still superb (and long lasting) and the screen is still as good as new. Also the screen does not fade at the edges (which my previous garmins started to do after a couple of years).

Customer support: For the EU consumers: BikeInn.com also sells the computer at a competitive price, so if you want better customer service or warranty, this might be a good solution.

In short: a great substitute and cheaper alternative than the overprices big players like Garmin and Wahoo.
With the current rising alternatives from magene and others, there might be better solutions, but my gamble to purchase the iGS800 has zero regrets.