Frame for mix road/gravel use possible - SPcycle g056 build

[Ludo]

Original questions and discussions related up to page 3:
To the specialists, is there a frame out there that would be a good all around to do road and gravel by just switching wheelset? Not doing anything competitive, just wanting something capable. Not doing extreme off road either as I have a mtb for that.

Follow up (all prices taxes & shipping included):
Went with SPcycle G056 frame and here below is the built sheet, just missing pedals and a bit undecided about what to do on that so shelved that decision for later

Frame, so G056, sky blue frame and white fork, will probably put some decal on it to dress it up, $511
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNahRbQ

Handlebar, Syncros creston road 400x90, $87
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m09jqcc

Bar tape, $6
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNdUvZK

Groupset, Ltwoo GRT aluminum with Zrace XG calipers, $200
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtfyuM4

Crankset, Evosid 170mm-46T, $39
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqvRT6M

BB, kactus T47 ceramic bearings, $25
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0sr8Pa

Cassette, Spedao 11-50T. $68
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0QVeEo

Chain, YBN 12S, $21
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPAQ1Ac

Saddle, ryet 3D carbon, $36
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLifxzS

Wheelset, CSC 50x30x D272 hub 54t, 6 bolts rotors, $364
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNi5nzS

Valves, Ridenow presta, 65mm, $6
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mP718pW

Rotors, SRAM centerline 6bolts 160mm, $13 for the pair
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mK9mMVq

Tires, Continental Terra trails 70”x40C, $59 for the pair
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mK9mMVq

[erickr]

Take a look at the Crux (or clone) for a more road like geo or Carbonda 505 (also has an SL version) for a more relaxed gravel geo.

I have an original Carbonda 505 that was a spare parts gravel build several years ago. It's still my favorite bike I've ever owned. The newer 505 has been de-graveled a bit and looks like a great road/gravel option.

[kubackje]

Take a look at the Crux (or clone) for a more road like geo or Carbonda 505 (also has an SL version) for a more relaxed gravel geo.

I have an original Carbonda 505 that was a spare parts gravel build several years ago. It's still my favorite bike I've ever owned. The newer 505 has been de-graveled a bit and looks like a great road/gravel option.

That's ease it's cervelo aspero and their clones like the one from airwolf.

[Phaxe]

I just finished the cervelo clone build and I think it would make a great hybrid. It has a an aggressive aero position perfect for the road.

[frnchy]

I have an SPCycle G068 frame coming in soon to build into basically this exact bike. I'll be running a 700c x 32 mm road wheelset and 650b x 52-ish mm gravel wheelset. The frame should be arriving sometime in the next month and will be built up right after I get it, so check the thread for that frame soon.

More generally, I think the prior suggestions for an Aspero copy or all-road bike are good ones if your riding is like 70/30 road/gravel or less, and has a fairly consistent ratio of road to gravel. My riding is more like 40/60 overall, but for any individual ride I can get anywhere from a 50/50 to 10/90 split on surface type (well, 100% road rides aren't hard to achieve but they aren't very appealing); thus, two wheelsets makes sense for my use case where I can choose my riding surface of choice. If this sounds similar to your riding then it might be worth looking into a 2 wheelset solution on a frame with larger tire clearance.

[Ludo]

Thanks everyone for all the good suggestion, I’ll start putting numbers together on the different options. Carbondale would be my first choice without budget constraint but I am not sur I can get there budget wise starting with that frame.
2 wheel set has the most appeal as I would rather not have to swap tires whenever I want to change things. I would think that most of my riding will be gravel but I would like to venture on the road front time to time.
Serge, for sure the roads around Houston are nothing like what we have in France, hard to find quiet country roads, but we do have a nice network of concrete trails, can easy do 60-70km ride without being on busy roads.

[100poods]

I'm in the same situation, I want to get a universal bike, but I don't know what to choose. I have 80 tarmac and sidewalks, 10 bad tarmac and 10 forest roads. I don't really want a road bike, maybe over time, because I want more versatility and convenience on the 50-100km trips that I usually do.

These are the options I'm currently choosing from (Listed in descending order of my interest)

Lightcarbon LCG072-D 2025
Workswell G358
Carbonda 505SL
Ican Graro

Pricey side
Canyon Grail
Orbea Terra
Superior XR 2025
Scott Addict

[jonathanf2]

Take a look at the Crux (or clone) for a more road like geo or Carbonda 505 (also has an SL version) for a more relaxed gravel geo.

I have an original Carbonda 505 that was a spare parts gravel build several years ago. It's still my favorite bike I've ever owned. The newer 505 has been de-graveled a bit and looks like a great road/gravel option.

You know of any Crux frame clones? I'm not aware of any, but I'd be interested if they exist!

[100poods]

Based on your ratios, consider the new long teng, the 401. Takes 38C, which would easily handle 90% of your riding, and the last 10%, would either still work ok enough with slicks, or if you have some knobs on the edges, would be great.

It looks interesting, but it's really more road-going than universal. One of my trips, when I wanted to increase the distance and get to a nature reserve near the city, this craving for adventure ended with me making my way along a forest road with fallen trees and a swamp through which I carried a bicycle in my hands (I saw a shorter road on satellite images LMAO). Therefore, I just want a slightly more road and faster gravel bike than I currently have — SPcycle G058. The stock for tires 40-45c will be enough for me for speed, comfort and off-road ability, I will stop at Tufo Thundero, and for the road I will assemble another wheelset for 30-32c tires that will eventually be on the road bike that I plan to assemble.

[Ludo]

Taiwan factory bike parts has the Scott addict replica. Could also be an option

[100poods]

Yes, Ican Graro is a copy of Scott geometry, this is one of the options. But I'm not a fan of copies and replicas, even as trolling, I don't like the aesthetics of pinarello. I think I'll go to bikefit with retul to make up my mind, at the moment I'm forming a short list for myself.

[Ludo]

I’ll post all the geometries of the bike posted here in the top post and a few oem bike for reference, could be useful for others

[kubackje]

Thanks everyone for all the good suggestion, I’ll start putting numbers together on the different options. Carbondale would be my first choice without budget constraint but I am not sur I can get there budget wise starting with that frame.
2 wheel set has the most appeal as I would rather not have to swap tires whenever I want to change things. I would think that most of my riding will be gravel but I would like to venture on the road front time to time.
Serge, for sure the roads around Houston are nothing like what we have in France, hard to find quiet country roads, but we do have a nice network of concrete trails, can easy do 60-70km ride without being on busy roads.

If you want a gravel bike that's fast on road then I can recommend same build as I have. Sp cycle g056. I have a fast road bike Scott addict rc pro so I know what a fast bike feels like. My sp cycle with the the setup I have is a weapon on and off road with very fast tires tufo thundero HD 44c. It weighs just 8.5kg. I do all kind of riding on it from single tracks, chunky gravel, smooth gravel to long tarmac rides. I even got few KOMs on tarmac with it. it's fast. But yeah it's a copy of willies jena, when it came out it was considered as s fast gravel bike. My stem -17 and narrow aero handlebars with flare also help me getting into nice aero position. It's not as good in the corners like a  my road bike but hey not many bikes are better then top tier scott.

[bremerradkurier]

Fair! then from the stuff i know 1st hand, i'd recommend Peter's grevil clone, because you'll still be fast on the road (80-90pc of your riding) and it will still largely feel like a road bike rather than a snail (my VB GF002 feels like a snail on the road), and you can clear 50C. Ofc, either you like the Pinarello vibe of it or you dont. It's turning heads, but it's not for everyone. I plan to make Ferragamo decals, or maybe Pizzaiolo, using Pinarello font - probably i ll end up with pizzaiolo on one side and ferragamo on the other just to troll pinarello.

I'm the lucky winner of the giveaway for this frame. 

My current build out plan and feel free to criticize is a 50-34 11-36 105 Di2  group, Elite Carbon wheelset at 45×24 IW rims.  Usage would be 85% road and maybe 10-15% forest paths.  For tires I'm thinking I could get some hilarious lean angles on the road and a plush ridewith either 38c Schwalbe Pro Ones or 35c Conti 5000 AS tires.

Should also have enough volume to handle the light unpaved sections I'd be trying.

My troll name idea in the same font would be Poorfellow.

[Ludo]

If you want a gravel bike that's fast on road then I can recommend same build as I have. Sp cycle g056. I have a fast road bike Scott addict rc pro so I know what a fast bike feels like. My sp cycle with the the setup I have is a weapon on and off road with very fast tires tufo thundero HD 44c. It weighs just 8.5kg. I do all kind of riding on it from single tracks, chunky gravel, smooth gravel to long tarmac rides. I even got few KOMs on tarmac with it. it's fast. But yeah it's a copy of willies jena, when it came out it was considered as s fast gravel bike. My stem -17 and narrow aero handlebars with flare also help me getting into nice aero position. It's not as good in the corners like a  my road bike but hey not many bikes are better then top tier scott.

Well you sold it, discussing colors with them…