VeloBuild VB-TT-023

[graveltime]

Hello all,

did someone messure the real seat angle range of this frame?

[Serge_K]

Hello all,

did someone messure the real seat angle range of this frame?

Trigonometry time, because the answer is probably "no".
I'm assuming:
- a 81cm saddle to BB distance.
- 25mm of movement from the center (basically i assume there's 5cm of adjustment on the seat post: 80 degrees.
- 40mm for the nose of the saddle vs where it's clamped: 83 degrees.

That's ghetto math, but it shouldnt be too far off.

[patliean1]

I have a buddy who purchased a Yoeleo TT frame for his road bike setup. Elite racer. Although he only uses the bike for training. A total diesel of a rider. Freakishly fast on the flats with his setup.

Him and I have extremely similar heights, wingspans, and proportions. Super flexible and long arms.

He suffers from the same exact dilemma I have which is needing a lot of reach for my height. But without the unnecessary stack height that comes with larger frames.  He's been trying to get me on a TT frame for years. Lots of reach, no toe overlap, low stack, more balanced position over the frame. And most importantly no need for a 130-140mm stem that affects handling/steering.

I've had my eye on this VB TT frame since last summer. But it's quite the undertaking to experiment with a TT frame for road, only to potentially discover afterwards that was a bad idea.

[ejump0]

I have a buddy who purchased a Yoeleo TT frame for his road bike setup.

that yeoleo T9 is the tt912, though that pic uses some aftermarket fork.
my tt912 is a tad large as i need the reach (tantan only have 80mm n 100mm stem). had tantan offers 120-130 stem, i would gone 1size down.

you have the ttx38, thats close to a foil, and foil to last gen plasma (as close a road frame to a tt frame)

[patliean1]

that yeoleo T9 is the tt912, though that pic uses some aftermarket fork.
my tt912 is a tad large as i need the reach (tantan only have 80mm n 100mm stem). had tantan offers 120-130 stem, i would gone 1size down.

you have the ttx38, thats close to a foil, and foil to last gen plasma (as close a road frame to a tt frame)

Even with my TanTan x38 I'm still needing to run a 140mm stem. Frame reach is 394 stack 575. With the reach and steep seatpost angle of the VB-TT-023 in a size large I could get away with a 100-110mm stem. It would probably still corner like a yacht. But 90% of my rides are solo on long flat roads.

[patliean1]

Even with my TanTan x38 I'm still needing to run a 140mm stem. Frame reach is 394 stack 575. With the reach and steep seatpost angle of the VB-TT-023 in a size large I could get away with a 100-110mm stem. It would probably still corner like a yacht. But 90% of my rides are solo on long flat roads.

Actually nevermind my earlier thoughts. Once you start raising the front end you lose effective overall reach.

Increasing the stack height by 53mm just to be near that of a normal road bike...nets me a reduction in reach by 17mm. Which is almost basically the same reach as my Tavelo Arow in a similar size. I think there could be some other benefits to using a TT bike for road. But it appears bike fit stack/reach isn't really one of them.

[Barry McCockiner]

All parts have finally arrived and got the rig set up. This is what it looks like pretty much in race set up (1st race is IM Lanza so front mech needed, but will be removed for flatter races).

Made a DIY BTA bottle cage plate from an AliEx carbon plate and a 3 slot bottle age adaptor common in MTBing.

The Trek Speedconcept Gen 3 (disc brake) specific downtube bottle doesnt work on this frame as it comes, however I'll find a way to mod the that bottle cage to fit. That or use the Orbea Ordu OMX or Cervelo downtube bottle.

[PANW]

That looks great!

Are those the Winow extensions? What do you think of them?

[Barry McCockiner]

That looks great!

Are those the Winow extensions? What do you think of them?

Yeah these are the first release of the Winow extensions paired with a drag 2 zero 15 deg spacer. Generally pretty happy with the extensions. Still yet to sort a garmin mount as I don’t fancy paying the £25 for the winow ones / I like DIYing it.

[PANW]

Nice! Let us know what you come up with.

[mtm]

Looks like a nice setup. I can see you have the new(ish) 65mm AliE trispoke. I haven't been able to finde any specs on it. Do you know the inner, outer and max width? It looks pretty good.

Oh, and remove the front valve cap, its only use is for tube storage and transportation purposes ;p

[Cnasta]

All parts have finally arrived and got the rig set up. This is what it looks like pretty much in race set up (1st race is IM Lanza so front mech needed, but will be removed for flatter races).

Made a DIY BTA bottle cage plate from an AliEx carbon plate and a 3 slot bottle age adaptor common in MTBing.

The Trek Speedconcept Gen 3 (disc brake) specific downtube bottle doesnt work on this frame as it comes, however I'll find a way to mod the that bottle cage to fit. That or use the Orbea Ordu OMX or Cervelo downtube bottle.

That looks absolutely on par with any of the big brands recent releases (at, the 'normal' looking ones). Got an Insta page to follow (curious about Lanza results and futher photo's of this machine)


(okay, one thing: I'd like the BTA to be horizontal to the toptube and not with the angle of the wedge --> given that you like DIY, I think that's an easy one for you )

[Barry McCockiner]

(okay, one thing: I'd like the BTA to be horizontal to the toptube and not with the angle of the wedge --> given that you like DIY, I think that's an easy one for you )

I agree it would look a heck of a lot more satisfying if it was parallel to top tube, however I like an angle to it so when I’ve got race nutrition in the BTA bottle it won’t leak out the bottle as easy.

You should see some of the other shit house things I’ve done after seeing the arms race the pro triathlon peloton has done with bottles. Pic below is the more tame set ups I did.

[mattgolt]

All parts have finally arrived and got the rig set up.

This is so hot. Love the ghetto bottle rig. I've designed a plate that let's me mount it in a similar way. Currently only 3d printed, but I'm looking to have it lasercut somewhere.

What size of the winowsport extensions do you have? And how tall are you? They look nice and long. I'm having some trouble with the original ones from the vb-tt-023 since my arms are quite long

[Cnasta]

I agree it would look a heck of a lot more satisfying if it was parallel to top tube, however I like an angle to it so when I’ve got race nutrition in the BTA bottle it won’t leak out the bottle as easy.

You should see some of the other shit house things I’ve done after seeing the arms race the pro triathlon peloton has done with bottles. Pic below is the more tame set ups I did.

Loving the double BTA better (but still prefer it horizontal).

I'm using a DIY alu BTA bridge whateverthingie as well. Also not horizontal, but got the botle in backward. Must say that with the right botle it doesnt leak my nutrition.

Still curious if you have an instagram page to follow