Looking for a carbon triathlon frame

[ejump0]

IF, and only if you wanna push your luck, you may consider TT-x38 as it looks close enough like Foil and slap on fake UCI sticker.
Sebastian Kienle modified his Scott Foil for the Norseman Tri, and it looks close enough to prev gen Plasma. X38 have internal routed cabling thats compatible with ACR/DCR stems like Deda Vinci, Deda Superbox, Mosso ST-08 , and then you can slap on Winow's TT cockpit.
However due to the lack of toptube boss holes, you need to use doublesided tape to stick some bento box.

Your next possible luck is in hopefully XDS selling their TT framesets

[Hmpf]

Its 420mm and its Just one Size. https://www.icanbikes.com/de/liste-der-produkte-2/carbon-tt-fahrradrahmen/#
They also told me by Email.

I dont have the Velobuild but it seems like its a 31,8mm Diameter stem.

[tg]

For the angle adjustment on the ican TT017 we can see that they provide an angle that seems to be 10° and the basic one installed seems to be 15 or 20° but even if I asked them the angle they don't understand.
After that, the design doesn't seem so easy to adapt extensions to the monoriser, because if they don't supply an angle, it must be possible to easily model a part, and if not, to adapt extensions to the original plate, you'd just have to cut out the round sleeves that house their horrible round extensions.

Otherwise, chrono's xds frame would be a superb opportunity if they offered it for sale internationally.
Or a new construction of the van rysel xcr UCI that would be more relevant to riders.

[Triexpress]

For the angle adjustment on the ican TT017 we can see that they provide an angle that seems to be 10° and the basic one installed seems to be 15 or 20° but even if I asked them the angle they don't understand.
After that, the design doesn't seem so easy to adapt extensions to the monoriser, because if they don't supply an angle, it must be possible to easily model a part, and if not, to adapt extensions to the original plate, you'd just have to cut out the round sleeves that house their horrible round extensions.

Otherwise, chrono's xds frame would be a superb opportunity if they offered it for sale internationally.
Or a new construction of the van rysel xcr UCI that would be more relevant to riders.

Now you point this out I have concerns about buying the TT017. ICAN tell me they will not change the plate that the poles fix into. This means that you have no choice to change the aerobars  and have to use the proprietary ones. I have told them this that this design is restrictive and likely to limit sales. Hopefully they get the message.

I have asked them again to look into this and to provide more info on how this piece is fixed to the mono riser to see if I can use something else or make something.

[Triexpress]

Here are links to videos of the TT017 mono riser and frame that ICAN sent me.
 
https://youtu.be/fV2XZCbM1mA?si=i6x3nPRoInW77nen
https://youtu.be/_6v1JcSRA2Y?si=p7SSmUbTWFsGxrcC

ICAN say you can install the plate with the poles connections directly to the mono riser without the angle spacer to make it horizontal.

I'm still leaning towards this bike despite the front end issue. I will either add my own plate to attach aero bars or cut off the pole connections if its possible and not too ugly. If I do I will post a build thread on this bike.

[tg]

icanbikes has updated its tt017 page: https://www.icanbikes.com/fr/liste-des-produits/cadre-de-velo-en-carbone-tt/
We see more detailed photos and even a video and frankly the bike looks great. We see that the mono riser system is super simple. And (I hope they will) if they provide pieces with different angles (the classic 10/15/20/25° and flat mounting is simple just do not put a spacer angle) it will be a great system.

For the plate with the pads and pole holders, I think we could cut out the pole holders, which for me are neither aesthetically pleasing nor ergonomic, and use the holes on the plate (originally used to fix the pads) to fix one-piece extenders.

For 950 USD delivered in Europe, this frame is far better value than the velobuild (1250USD) as long as velobuild is not UCI.

Triexpress, it would be great if you could make this because I'm very interested in doing the same thing (we can't see the video or the link you referred to at the beginning of your message).

[Triexpress]

icanbikes has updated its tt017 page: https://www.icanbikes.com/fr/liste-des-produits/cadre-de-velo-en-carbone-tt/
We see more detailed photos and even a video and frankly the bike looks great. We see that the mono riser system is super simple. And (I hope they will) if they provide pieces with different angles (the classic 10/15/20/25° and flat mounting is simple just do not put a spacer angle) it will be a great system.

For the plate with the pads and pole holders, I think we could cut out the pole holders, which for me are neither aesthetically pleasing nor ergonomic, and use the holes on the plate (originally used to fix the pads) to fix one-piece extenders.

For 950 USD delivered in Europe, this frame is far better value than the velobuild (1250USD) as long as velobuild is not UCI.

Triexpress, it would be great if you could make this because I'm very interested in doing the same thing (we can't see the video or the link you referred to at the beginning of your message).

I updated my post to say they confirmed the mounting after your post just to clarify if anyone is trying to follow this thread.

I got hit by an e-bike while training which destroyed my bike. hence looking into the build of a new bike. I have a few medical bills to pay for and waiting on the Mrs to agree releasing the funds to purchase from ICAN

I agree this bike looks the best and good value. ICAN seem to have good reviews too.

[cLs_elite]

I recently tried to get a quote for the TT017 but ICAN replied to me and said:

Hello
 
We noticed your interest in our TT017 frame, but unfortunately, it is already represented in Germany. Instead, we'd like to introduce you to the TT016—an excellent alternative with many of the same features.
Why Choose TT016?

    High Performance: Same advanced carbon fiber technology as TT017, delivering lightweight and stiffness.
    Versatility: Slightly more adaptable geometry, suitable for Time Trial .

https://www.icanbikes.com/Products-list/carbon-time-trail-frame-tt016/
We're confident the TT016 will be a hit in your need , price is 850USD/set .Including frame , fork ,seat post , TT bar , headsets . 
M size disc brake on stock .
Paint cost 85USD for full one color .

Was a bit confused about this and didnt try to follow up on the TT017 because it sounded pretty clear to me that they dont want to sell it.

[Triexpress]

I recently tried to get a quote for the TT017 but ICAN replied to me and said:

Hello
 
We noticed your interest in our TT017 frame, but unfortunately, it is already represented in Germany. Instead, we'd like to introduce you to the TT016—an excellent alternative with many of the same features.
Why Choose TT016?

    High Performance: Same advanced carbon fiber technology as TT017, delivering lightweight and stiffness.
    Versatility: Slightly more adaptable geometry, suitable for Time Trial .

https://www.icanbikes.com/Products-list/carbon-time-trail-frame-tt016/
We're confident the TT016 will be a hit in your need , price is 850USD/set .Including frame , fork ,seat post , TT bar , headsets . 
M size disc brake on stock .
Paint cost 85USD for full one color .

Was a bit confused about this and didnt try to follow up on the TT017 because it sounded pretty clear to me that they dont want to sell it.

Sounds like the TT017 frame is already sold in Germany most likely under another name and probably have an agreement not to compete in that market.
The TT016 looks OK but doesn't have the mono riser. Some may prefer that frame than the TT017. There is a nice picture of the TT016 under reviews on the link they gave you.

[ejump0]

The TT016 looks OK but doesn't have the mono riser. Some may prefer that frame than the TT017. There is a nice picture of the TT016 under reviews on the link they gave you.

should try negotiate if possible to have the TT017 cockpit swap/upgrade for tt016 order

[aeroskiii]

Alternatively one of those fake bolides seem interesting albeit expensive and kinda a shitty cockpit.

[Triexpress]

I have pulled the trigger on the ICAN TT017 with wheels.
Just need to wait for it to turn up and I will report back. I may do a build post if I have time.

[Hmpf]

The ICAN TT017 frame looks like Shit tt or? https://www.specialized.com/de/de/s-works-shiv-tt-module/p/4221549?color=5441176-4221549

[Triexpress]

The ICAN TT017 frame looks like Shit tt or? https://www.specialized.com/de/de/s-works-shiv-tt-module/p/4221549?color=5441176-4221549

Yeah, the front end looks similar. Not the rear though.
I have been looking at different models to see if there are any matches but it looks like it has similarities of all sorts of bikes.

The way the forks and head set tube flare's out where they meet, and the curve in the frame for the front wheel is similar to the Trek and Orbea. The rear is similar to Canyon Speedmax CFR TT, but not the chainstay, also the Orbea. The Merida Time warp also has similarities
https://www.orbea.com/au-en/bicycles/triathlon/ordu/cat/ordu-m30iltd
https://www.canyon.com/en-au/speedmax-cfr-tt/3484.html
https://www.trekbikes.com/au/en_AU/bikes/road-bikes/triathlon-bikes/speed-concept/speed-concept-slr-9/p/35757/?colorCode=reddark_black
https://www.merida-bikes.com/en/bike/4885/time-warp-tri-limited

[klindsey00]

man, just want an affordable fast frame to fit me at 195cm (about 90cm inseam), so much digging to try to find a bunch of maybes. I'd like to keep a stock-ish cockpit that is adjustable. Any other tall folks that have knowledge? I'd like to get a used (newish disc model) speed concept or p-series frameset but nobody seems to be only selling frame/fork/cockpits on marketplace (and they want an arm and a leg), especially in the us.