Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 12912 times)

BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #120 on: November 27, 2024, 11:05:42 AM »
Picture.

nabilou

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #121 on: November 27, 2024, 11:07:57 AM »
Hi there, I have one ordered as well. I think cables are routed the same way as on the SL8. Page 22 in the instruction manual of the SL8.

well seen, it seems to be the case , but nobody knows if there is an hole behind the cover

BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #122 on: November 27, 2024, 11:16:56 AM »
well seen, it seems to be the case , but nobody knows if there is an hole behind the cover

Here is a picture of a replica (not Seraph but it is maybe the same mold for all replicas).

We can see 3 holes.

LowPaceKingdom

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #123 on: November 27, 2024, 01:21:11 PM »
« Last Edit: November 27, 2024, 01:22:42 PM by LowPaceKingdom »

LowPaceKingdom

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #124 on: November 27, 2024, 01:42:14 PM »
Thanks. Overall I'd say the price is right for all the specs. Not easy to get it cheaper.

Did you consider wheeltop instead of 105 di2?

yes i did even consider LTWOO,  but after all MY research i dont think there right "there". Few more years needed in MY opinion.
In Germany u get Shimano Di2 105 for around 1k euros (full Groupset shifters , disc brakes, Cranks, Etc)
WHEEL TOP EDS-TX "almost" same price

Cnasta

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #125 on: November 27, 2024, 03:19:43 PM »
Guys there is a Hole . Like the original tarmac sl8


https://youtu.be/sDtpOkXAVCU?si=ZnvWnhkHpfKSY8sT&t=14

 0:14

https://youtu.be/1mO_n91GjKA?si=lpHXJ90pJZjDlfDN&t=24

0:24

Thanks for that :) Was afraid I had to go for the more expensive option of Speeder :) And sorry was to lazy/in panic to search for myself  ::)

Mariuszuzd

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #126 on: November 29, 2024, 06:38:41 AM »
Hi, I'm also considering their frame. Someone already got a frame from them? I saw that some people have already ordered, but if was delivered, or everyone is waiting ?

Cnasta

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #127 on: December 01, 2024, 03:49:38 PM »
I'm almost ready to order this frame, just need to decide on the design of my decals (not speci of course).

I'm trying to do a 'leight weight-ish' build with 1250gr wheels. I'm fitting a Di2 11sp ultegra group. Just need to buy a crank. I need a powermeter, 11sp compatible, 172,5/170mm crank lenght and 52/36 rings. I'd like aero/closed rings that look look (like absolute black/alu gear). What would you guys advice (not to expensive, not heavy - preverably leight weight)

Is this the best option:
Magene Power Meter PES P505 Basis 4 Bolt 110BCD 24mm
PASS QUEST 110bcd


jonathanf2

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #128 on: December 01, 2024, 04:38:29 PM »
Is this the best option:
Magene Power Meter PES P505 Basis 4 Bolt 110BCD 24mm
PASS QUEST 110bcd

I'd also consider the Magene P505 S1103 spider only. You can mount that to any 3 bolt crankset such as the Riro carbon cranks and get additional weight savings. I have two of S1103 PM spiders on my road bikes using carbon cranksets. It'll also open you up to any 110bcd 4 and 5 bolt options.

KaiDeus

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #129 on: December 02, 2024, 02:59:41 AM »
The riro crankset has a 24mm aluminium spindle, I would not trust it. The magene crankset has a 24mm steel spindle like shimano has. As someone who had a broken spindle once, I would not go for aluminium, why chance it?

Cnasta

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #130 on: December 02, 2024, 03:09:05 AM »
The riro crankset has a 24mm aluminium spindle, I would not trust it. The magene crankset has a 24mm steel spindle like shimano has. As someone who had a broken spindle once, I would not go for aluminium, why chance it?

That sounds like a valid argument that I've read before. What your option be for PM, crank and chainrings? Is the PES Magene crank option that heavy/too heavy?

KaiDeus

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #131 on: December 02, 2024, 03:21:51 AM »
It is really not that heavy. I'm using the shimano chainrings for the best shifting performance. The crank + chainrings weigh around 820g. That is roughly 100g heavier than the ultegra chainset without a pm. That is a tradeoff I gladly chose.

jonathanf2

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #132 on: December 02, 2024, 09:07:06 AM »
The riro crankset has a 24mm aluminium spindle, I would not trust it. The magene crankset has a 24mm steel spindle like shimano has. As someone who had a broken spindle once, I would not go for aluminium, why chance it?

3 bolt cranksets in steel and 29mm axles also exist.   ;)

KaiDeus

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #133 on: December 02, 2024, 10:15:45 AM »
That depends of whether you want to use a 29mm spindle of a frame with a 41mm bb shell or you have a larger diameter bb, so you won´t have to use tiny bearings.

ancientone

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #134 on: December 03, 2024, 05:23:55 AM »
Do you guys order TT and Seraph directly from their web site or is there a cheaper alternatives ? Is TT and Seraph the same or different ?