Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

[CARLOS5]

Hi, I'm sending you photos and a video of the tantan sl8

[joegal]

It has the necessary holes, they sell the complete bike with DI2

Exactly as with the real SL8, the FD cable port is behind the FD hanger

[LowPaceKingdom]

Hi, I'm sending you photos and a video of the tantan sl8

Thx for sharing your frame

Request Could you Show or Film the Inside of The Frame?
 
wanted to ask if your or anyone here might be able to show or film the inside of their frame and possibly share a video of it? Ideally, using a camera or phone that can capture the interior details.

Unfortunately, I missed the chance to do this with my own frame because it was already fully assembled, and I didn’t have the tools to open it up. I’m really curious to see what it looks like inside—whether it’s to check the build quality, cable routing, or just out of general interest.

If anyone could share this, I’d be really grateful! It might even be helpful for others who are wondering the same.

The only source we have is this video and but unfortunately, the details are quite minimal and don’t give a clear picture of everything I’m curious about.
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mO_n91GjKA-

[BeR]

What are the torques wrench for front and rear carbon rail saddle ?

Thanks.

[LowPaceKingdom]

What are the torques wrench for front and rear carbon rail saddle ?

Thanks.

these infos are from vivian tantan,
 
all Numbers in Nm

Seatpost             8-10
Bottlecage             4
Brake calipers  : tantan dont have info also spcialized doesnt have on their manuual , i recommend u to go with 4 - 6
Handlebar           6-8
Fork Expander     8-10
Through Axle    12-13
Saddle both front and rear   8-10
UDH/SchaltWer     4,5
headset bolt screw : also no official info it  is about -  1- 2 Nm till u have no play betewen fork and frame

beaware torque charts are little different from original sl8 page
example fork expander sl8 original is 5 NM

[dovh]

Hey guys, I'm sourcing everything I need to build the bike.

I have a question regarding the rear caliper adapter for the 160mm rotor. What length bolts are needed for it?
Also, those of you who built it up already, were you missing anything from the accessories that came with the frame? I'd like to have everything on hand when the frame comes. 

[Serge_K]

I have a question regarding the rear caliper adapter for the 160mm rotor. What length bolts are needed for it?

I keep reading these questions. How much would it cost shimano to ship enough bolts in the 1st place? the ltwoo groups come with every bolt length under the sun, for eg. when you order a group from them, you get all the bolts, all the adaptor plates for pretty much any situation, and all the cables, charger and so on. Their RDs break, but at least groups are easy to install.
Given the size of the bolts, btw, you can probably find them in any DIY store, they should cost virtually nothing.

[MTB-Addicted]

Hi,
Almost completed my SL8 from Taian Eisen.
Size 56, 6.8Kg without chain, handlebar tape and pedals.
I have not ridden it so far.
It’s not Seraph/TanTan, do you want to open a separate topic ?
Ciao

[Serge_K]

Hi,
Almost completed my SL8 from Taian Eisen.
Size 56, 6.8Kg without chain, handlebar tape and pedals.
I have not ridden it so far.
It’s not Seraph/TanTan, do you want to open a separate topic ?
Ciao

Given the popularity of the SL8, feel free to start a Taiwan Eisen LS8 thread, nobody will get upset. The thread we're in does say Seraph specifically. So you decided to go with an overt seller of fakes, but asked not to get the fake branding? Will be curious to read about your thought process & your experience with the order process & ride.

[Avalius]

Given the popularity of the SL8, feel free to start a Taiwan Eisen LS8 thread, nobody will get upset. The thread we're in does say Seraph specifically. So you decided to go with an overt seller of fakes, but asked not to get the fake branding? Will be curious to read about your thought process & your experience with the order process & ride.

I would bet on it that it's the same frame. I'm rating seraph/tantan and airwolf in a seperate category.
I've build alot of frames and some counterfeits I can't tell the difference.
Nothing like Elves, Winspace, Yishun, etc..
Quality wise I've seen counterfeit frames on par with the above brands and I've experienced a level below to.

[MTB-Addicted]

Given the popularity of the SL8, feel free to start a Taiwan Eisen LS8 thread, nobody will get upset. The thread we're in does say Seraph specifically. So you decided to go with an overt seller of fakes, but asked not to get the fake branding? Will be curious to read about your thought process & your experience with the order process & ride.

At the end I decided to go with an overt seller of fakes, first time after 12y of buying chinese “no fake” frames and components (mtb and road).
I have asked carbon matte finiture because I like the “Batman” style and I am not interested in appearing as an “S-Works” owner.
Moreover in this way I avoid any issue with the Financial Guard.
Btw It’s now 10y since I am riding also branded bike like a S-Works SL3 or Scott Spark.

Experience with Taiwan Eisen: great.
Availability and comms are TOP.
I have no experience in case of issues, fingers crossed.

[MTB-Addicted]

For the sake of clarity and for the benefit of our discussions, let me share the reasons that lead me to buy a counterfeit - despite I was not and I am not in favor of this - are:

- weight: the frame weights only 835gr size56, seat post (long) is 173gr and fork is 312gr (uncut).
To be honest, the weight of the fork does not make me so confident (even lighter than the original) but I will try step by step, testing on gravel roads at low speed at the beginning and then on faster descends.
There are very few chinese frames with these weights at 600/700usd.

- the frame/fork shape: it is extremely similar to the original one and this grants that the great aerodynamic features - on the chart and so well advertised from Specialized - are "scientifically" proven or at least comparable to the original frame.
Chinese frames "no counterfeit" do not have this kind of studies/test behind.

[Rebel_Yell]

MTB…tell us about your build? Brand and parts used if you don’t mind?

[acino]

For the sake of clarity and for the benefit of our discussions, let me share the reasons that lead me to buy a counterfeit - despite I was not and I am not in favor of this - are:

- weight: the frame weights only 835gr size56, seat post (long) is 173gr and fork is 312gr (uncut).
To be honest, the weight of the fork does not make me so confident (even lighter than the original) but I will try step by step, testing on gravel roads at low speed at the beginning and then on faster descends.
There are very few chinese frames with these weights at 600/700usd.

- the frame/fork shape: it is extremely similar to the original one and this grants that the great aerodynamic features - on the chart and so well advertised from Specialized - are "scientifically" proven or at least comparable to the original frame.
Chinese frames "no counterfeit" do not have this kind of studies/test behind.

do you have photos of the inside of the frame?

[MTB-Addicted]

Here you go