Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

[glepore]

No real reason, there's no buyer protection thru wise anyway, and the times I've used it it was a bit more cumbersome than pp.

[glepore]

Ultegra di2 12v groupset, wheels with Yishun rims and Sapim CX Ray spokes and Goldix 180 hubs. Galfer Weave 140 rear 160 front discs. Bontrager Mostrose saddle, Rockbros handlebar tape, Continental Grandsport tires with Ridenow lightweight tubes, carbon bottle cages from AliExpress. I think that's it. I haven't weighed it yet. When I weigh it, I'll put it here.

Silly question-when you built this, were you able to use the standard Shimano 160 adaptor or was there a unique one shipped with the frame? I ask b/c the actual sl8 has unique spacing on the fork that requires a unique adaptor. Just trying to determine whether its a difference or not.

[RC-Nico]

Buying 2 frames sounds very good, but I don`t know anybody who is interest to build a racebike.

But if anyone in D/AT is planning to buy this frame and would like to split shipping and payment, please let me know.

I‘m also real interested to buy this frame from TanTan - so splitting shipping costs would be a good Option. I planned to give the order at the end of february or start of march!

[TidyDinosaur]

Buying 2 frames sounds very good, but I don`t know anybody who is interest to build a racebike.

But if anyone in D/AT is planning to buy this frame and would like to split shipping and payment, please let me know.

Chances are the frames are going to be shipped in 2 boxes so you will still have to pay shipping 2 times... And 5% paypall fees means those will also simply double if you order 2 frames.

So this might not be worth the trouble...

[CoreX88]

Silly question-when you built this, were you able to use the standard Shimano 160 adaptor or was there a unique one shipped with the frame? I ask b/c the actual sl8 has unique spacing on the fork that requires a unique adaptor. Just trying to determine whether its a difference or not.

There is an adapter included and it has the same looks as the one on the Tarmac. I couldn't use the standard Shimano one, but maybe I was just to silly

[planet_sammy]

I‘m also real interested to buy this frame from TanTan - so splitting shipping costs would be a good Option. I planned to give the order at the end of february or start of march!

But you should keep in mind that if you buy 2 frames, once for yourself and once for a "friend", if there is a problem with the friend's frame, the complaint must go through the buyer...

[rasch]

Chances are the frames are going to be shipped in 2 boxes so you will still have to pay shipping 2 times... And 5% paypall fees means those will also simply double if you order 2 frames.

So this might not be worth the trouble...

Not from my experience. Usually they bring up to 2 frames per box. Price is not broken in half but more than covers all those fees

[momento]

Not from my experience. Usually they bring up to 2 frames per box. Price is not broken in half but more than covers all those fees

in my experience, buying 2 frames, they use only one box (bigger), but the shipping price is adjusted to the volume of the bigger box and the greater weight ... there is still a saving in costs

[glepore]

There is an adapter included and it has the same looks as the one on the Tarmac. I couldn't use the standard Shimano one, but maybe I was just to silly

Thanks, no that makes sense. Its not off by much. Its mostly relevant only if you want to go Campy calipers as their 160 front caliper doesn't use an adapter and won't fit. I've got wheeltop group coming and their calipers are "ok" but everyone raves about Campy feel. Solution is to use a rear caliper and the spec adapter...

[brnrth]

Hi Guys,
as I feel that all the frames I like can't be sent to Germany, I'm thinking of buying the SL8 clone. I'm still unsure about the size and don't know which one fits better. Is there perhaps someone here who has similar measurements? I am 173cm tall and have an inseam of 78cm.

I'm currently riding an old CAAD5 frame in 54 (see attachment). A really great frame. Unfortunately, it's too big. I feel a bit like I'm "sliding forward" on the saddle. The frame has a reach of 396, the top tube is 545, my stem is 90 and the handlebars have a reach of 70.

For the SL8 Clone I'm thinking of size 52 with a 90 / 100 stem or 49 with a longer stem. If anyone has roughly the same dimensions and gets on well with a particular setup (even with other frames), I would be happy to get some advices. 

Alternatively, I'm also considering whether the XMC CS-R01 would be better due to its more relaxed geometry. However, I am physically fit enough to ride a sporty geometry.

[glepore]

Specialized has a fit tool on their website that works pretty well. If you fall between sizes I'd likely size up if you want comfort, sizing down leads to a greater saddle to bar drop.

[TidyDinosaur]

Specialized has a fit tool on their website that works pretty well. If you fall between sizes I'd likely size up if you want comfort, sizing down leads to a greater saddle to bar drop.

I have done the calculation on the Specialized site in the past, and the size they advised would be way to big for me. So you better not just trust that advise.

You can compare the dimensions of your old frame to an SL8 on the different geometry site you can find online and go from there.

I am 172 / 82 cm and would definitely not go bigger than a 52.

[Akadrak]

Nope, Stuttgart-Area. I took the parts of my Votec and put them on the new bike. The Votec was transfered to some kind of speed gravel bike

Hey, Can you please tell me the total cost to EU? Any taxes? Thanks!

[Serge_K]

Specialized has a fit tool on their website that works pretty well. If you fall between sizes I'd likely size up if you want comfort, sizing down leads to a greater saddle to bar drop.

+1 on not trusting that tool. That was a long time ago, but because of it I kept buying bikes that were too big for me because the first bike I bought as an adult was a specialized, a good size too big.

[jonathanf2]

For the SL8 Clone I'm thinking of size 52 with a 90 / 100 stem or 49 with a longer stem. If anyone has roughly the same dimensions and gets on well with a particular setup (even with other frames), I would be happy to get some advices. 

I'm the same height as you at 173cm. I would go with a 52cm frame. My TFSA SL6 clone and my R088 SL8 clone follow the same Tarmac geometry and both my frames are 52cm. You could probably go 49cm if you want a more racier/stiffer setup. My TFSA frame has a slammed stem, while my R088 setup is a bit more relaxed. I'm using both 90mm stems, but I could probably go 100-110mm if I wanted to be ultra aggressive with my fit.