Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

[Sander2177]

Mine is here. Initial impressions-well packed, wheels and frame in single box (size 49). My bike shipped 160/160 rotors (wheeltop build) . Rotors are low end shimano. Crank (going in bin) is senix, rings look same brand but ok. 
As far as the fork goes, the distance between the points for the mount on the fork is 60mm. The adapter does not appear to be reversible for 140, but I'm not taking it off for now as I'm running 160 anyway. Will update when I mount campy calipers in a couple weeks.
The seatpost binder is even branded (tarmac) so suspect the Hylix post will fit for those wanting zero.
The chameleon white is stunning in the sun.
Only niggle so far is paid for the 3d saddle and didn't get one. have one here.

Build report in a day or so.

Nice from memory in the WW forum wheee some gripes that only 160mm rotors could be run up front and have not seen any posts i can recall of anyone running 140mm however may be wrong
Look forward to the build report b

[glepore]

The real sl8 is 160 only as Specialized used a spacing on the fork mounts that's unique to it and the Aetheos, supposedly for mass reduction. It won't take a 140 mount.  Its only a problem for Campy users as the stock Campy road front caliper is native 160 (the mount is cast into the caliper) and doesn't work on an Sl8. The solution is to use a rear caliper and the stock Specialized mount w/ the 160 rotor. Ekar calipers are cheapish and identical to the road 140 other than matte finish and logo.

Normal flat mount spacing on the fork is 70mm, this fork and the actual sl8 measure 60mm

[glepore]

A couple additional notes. First, everything was very well faced. Maybe due to that I ordered it as a built bike and that was an advantage, or maybe they just do a nice job. I did pull the bb to replace with a ceramic, and the finish level interior is at least as nice as the photos posted.
The crankset they sent I scoffed at, but its actually ok, 780g w rings, direct mount 3 bolt sram style, 24 mm. I'm not going to use it as I have a carbon sram here with a quarq.
I did have a very minor issue with the seatpost, I had ordered all matching gold anno bolts for everything. The kit for the seatpost came with a gold barrel, and it was set for the oem post and about a half mm larger than tantan's. Fixed it by reaming the post, but the tantan barrel was visually smaller, so not a tolerance thing but an actual difference.

[jes2k13]

A couple additional notes. First, everything was very well faced. Maybe due to that I ordered it as a built bike and that was an advantage, or maybe they just do a nice job. I did pull the bb to replace with a ceramic, and the finish level interior is at least as nice as the photos posted.
The crankset they sent I scoffed at, but its actually ok, 780g w rings, direct mount 3 bolt sram style, 24 mm. I'm not going to use it as I have a carbon sram here with a quarq.
I did have a very minor issue with the seatpost, I had ordered all matching gold anno bolts for everything. The kit for the seatpost came with a gold barrel, and it was set for the oem post and about a half mm larger than tantan's. Fixed it by reaming the post, but the tantan barrel was visually smaller, so not a tolerance thing but an actual difference.

This is good news bro that you got yours, is the chameleon white comparable to the stock white non s works specialized version?
do you have a dealer near you that you could compare the colors with?
Lastly, post some pix and vids bro flex that beautiful frame, thanks!

[joegal]

Sorry for the slight off topic, but as this is the most active "fake" thread, i might as well post it here.

There is definetly some prosecution happening behind the curtain in the fake Scene. The "Chinese Bikes" Facebook groups, where replicas where the main topic of conversation, got deleted. Maybe due to the replica-talk, maybe for other reasons...

I dont know what leverage the authorities have on chinertown, and i hope this forum will not be affected.

[pandinoyoung]

Hey all, we have almost finished the build yesterday.
It's not entirely finished, but I have to wait with the handlebar tape until I get to the bike fit guy to set it up properly for me.
Here is the photo of the almost finished bike. It weighs a little over 8kg in size 58 and has quite heavy wheels and tires. With better wheels and tires that I hope to get soonish(tm), I should be able to save around 500-550g with that alone.

Some notes from building the bike. Brakes, we're not that hard to center. It took some finicking, but my friend managed to do it in about 20 minutes or so. Routing cables and hoses were also not that hard, but be careful so you don't drop the metal plate holding the front derailleur in the seat post tube. It was a pain to finagle it back in place.. Otherwise, everything was relatively straightforward. The headtube was finished nicely, and the bearing sat firmly there with no play. Also, the gap under the spacers is not bad after compressing it (see picture). 

Can't attach pictures here. It crashes the page, so it's here on google drive - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AEk9xj3Kvf6tfcz9mtWzV21S3gj--7qY?usp=sharing

hello nice creation. can i ask you what height your saddle is? thanks
and one last thing: what handlebar measurements did you take?

[tiz92]

So any updates on the possibility to use 140 mm front brakes?

[glepore]

So any updates on the possibility to use 140 mm front brakes?

See my posts from yesterday. I believe the answer is no.

[glepore]

Photos. Chain in the wax pot, so not installed. Bike ships with computer mount, but I used a magcad and its very secure. Rear varia mount from esty.
Weight is 7.1 kg. Will get below 7 with caliper and rotor swap and some odds and ends.

Its a divisive topic, I know, but its going to get gold graphics from Speedy Decals.

[Sander2177]

Photos. Chain in the wax pot, so not installed. Bike ships with computer mount, but I used a magcad and its very secure. Rear varia mount from esty.
Weight is 7.1 kg. Will get below 7 with caliper and rotor swap and some odds and ends.

Its a divisive topic, I know, but its going to get gold graphics from Speedy Decals.

Yep divisive with the decals so much so I have also ordered a set from Speedy Decals

[kubackje]

I am curious to read ride impression from people who own/rode a real SL8

[Sander2177]

I am curious to read ride impression from people who own/rode a real SL8

I have an S-Works SL8—before that, I had the SL7 and the Venge. It’s not as stiff  as the Venge that was a harsh ride, but it’s equally stiff as the SL7, just noticeably more comfortable, thanks in part to the skinny rear stays. It’s fast on the flats, but also a great bike for climbing—responsive and snappy.

Anything else you’d like to know?

[glepore]

Prom dress.

Initial impressions, only 15 miles in a 20 mph wind. It's very comfortable for a performance bike, didn't notice the carbon spokes at all, but hey, I've never ridden anything with a really wide (26 int) and a 30. So I'm not qualified.
The position is aggressive, but I'm 65 and can ride it so long as the hoods are reasonably high.
It doesn't feel cheap, that's for sure. Does it feel like an sl8 pro/expert? Dunno. My guess is close.
Wheeltop? Man,it shifts fine. The app is difficult. Press the bluetooth thing or nothing happens. No one tells you that.
The fd shift is low in casual mode. Theres a guy on facebook that has a bootleg app that separates out race mode from sleep(oem app kills sleep if you select race), and I suspect that'll greatly improve fd action. Rear action is plenty quick.

[dovh]

hello nice creation. can i ask you what height your saddle is? thanks
and one last thing: what handlebar measurements did you take?

Thanks!
it’s 774 mm, and the cockpit I got is 420mm with 90mm stem.

Also a bit of an update, i have now almost 300km on the bike and it’s been mostly without any issues.
I had garmin mount bolt come loose but now it’s fine after adding loctite to it. The other thing is the seat post clamp is making some clicking noise and the saddle slips down ever so slightly, will add more carbon paste and hopefully it will stop.

[Sander2177]

Prom dress.

Initial impressions, only 15 miles in a 20 mph wind. It's very comfortable for a performance bike, didn't notice the carbon spokes at all, but hey, I've never ridden anything with a really wide (26 int) and a 30. So I'm not qualified.
The position is aggressive, but I'm 65 and can ride it so long as the hoods are reasonably high.
It doesn't feel cheap, that's for sure. Does it feel like an sl8 pro/expert? Dunno. My guess is close.
Wheeltop? Man,it shifts fine. The app is difficult. Press the bluetooth thing or nothing happens. No one tells you that.
The fd shift is low in casual mode. Theres a guy on facebook that has a bootleg app that separates out race mode from sleep(oem app kills sleep if you select race), and I suspect that'll greatly improve fd action. Rear action is plenty quick.

Bike looks great!
Any plans to go weight weenie a little and get the weight down with some other parts
Also be great to see the decals on once you get them, as I am wondering if they are going to be easy or a faf to install