Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 1475156 times)

Bonus79

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #675 on: April 22, 2025, 04:32:14 AM »
The purple decals are mine I’m having Matt Purple logos on my Gloss UD Carbon frame. Not keen on the Specilaized on the forks and chainstay I’m a less is more guy. My SL8 was repainted this year and I did not have them put back on.

The other decals are from Speedydecals site.

https://speedydecal.com/index.php?controller=search&s=SL8

But if your in the UK I know a Specilaized approved painter you can get decals from I would have ordered from them had I known before I ordered these decals. (Ooey Custom Paint)
Matt Purple Metallic?

Sovi

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #676 on: April 22, 2025, 06:28:21 AM »
Hello everyone,

i'm reasonably certain that I will order the frame.

I had some questions for TanTan (via the Seraph-website) beforehand which were answered by Rose.

1) maybe also for you guys information:
I asked for the maximum weight limit. The answer is 130 kg (not specified wether its system- or riderweight, but even assuming systemweight thats more than enough for me).

2) I asked what a few extra spacers would cost. Answer for that is 50 USD for 3 spacers (5+10+10 mm).
I find that a bit ... steep tbh. Dont even know if I really need them, just want to be on the safe side here.
Aliexpress does have some SL8 spacers that are at least a bit cheaper.
Does anyone know wether or not they fit? And does anyone have a recommendation?

3) shipping to europe: 150 USD via DPD - ETA 15-30 days.

I would probably also order the Garmin Mount from Seraph, for that price a no brainer I would think.

Thats would be the frame sorted ... I will still have do decide the:
- bottom bracket (or well .. whats there to decide? ... its just a bottom bracket)
- group set (probably Ultegra DI2, but I am considering a Magene P505 as crank+powermeter ... alternatively assioma favero)
- wheels (absolutely no clue yet)
...
anything else I forgot?
Feel free to give me tips and recommendations, I honestly have little clue what I am doing here as it would be my first self-built bike




Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #678 on: April 22, 2025, 07:07:34 AM »
Hello everyone,

i'm reasonably certain that I will order the frame.

I had some questions for TanTan (via the Seraph-website) beforehand which were answered by Rose.

1) maybe also for you guys information:
I asked for the maximum weight limit. The answer is 130 kg (not specified wether its system- or riderweight, but even assuming systemweight thats more than enough for me).

2) I asked what a few extra spacers would cost. Answer for that is 50 USD for 3 spacers (5+10+10 mm).
I find that a bit ... steep tbh. Dont even know if I really need them, just want to be on the safe side here.
Aliexpress does have some SL8 spacers that are at least a bit cheaper.
Does anyone know wether or not they fit? And does anyone have a recommendation?

3) shipping to europe: 150 USD via DPD - ETA 15-30 days.

I would probably also order the Garmin Mount from Seraph, for that price a no brainer I would think.

Thats would be the frame sorted ... I will still have do decide the:
- bottom bracket (or well .. whats there to decide? ... its just a bottom bracket)
- group set (probably Ultegra DI2, but I am considering a Magene P505 as crank+powermeter ... alternatively assioma favero)
- wheels (absolutely no clue yet)
...
anything else I forgot?
Feel free to give me tips and recommendations, I honestly have little clue what I am doing here as it would be my first self-built bike

For my build I am using a DFS Carbon Crank which looks identical to my Cybrei crank on my gen SL8 running a 24mm Titanium axle instead of DUB 29mm only because I already have a bottom bracket spare. Running with XCADEY Power Meter and passquest 53-39T  chainring. Same PM as other crank
All was about $500usd.

Other consideration.
Saddle I have a Ryet saddle from Aliexpress
Brake discs I have a couple of sets but may sell
them on as I run Galfer Wave.
Wanting to see without spending a shed load what weight it comes in at.

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #679 on: April 22, 2025, 07:25:26 AM »
I'm in the EU(Czech Republic), so the shipping here would take some time, I guess. Btw, do you mean this part?

To clarify, I snapped this part that is circled on the manual screenshot.
My bad. I was thinking wedge clamp barrel, which is where my creak was. Your part is here:https://www.performancebike.com/specialized-alpinist-upper-lower-seat-clamps-black-w-hardware-kit-s204900004/p1269982?gad_source=4&gbraid=0AAAAAC1tmAvmXujKe6TsjXkigO-Qb7VOj&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_JzABhC2ARIsAPe3ynrqfuNXMEo72iD9B4JR5Wa3kr5nMPI2KyfFilBaL-x0uQ8loqnQIYkaArVGEALw_wcB

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #680 on: April 22, 2025, 07:27:57 AM »
What kind of grease did you use and where exactly did you apply it?
Thanks
Generic (Finish Line) bike grease on the two faces of the aluminum wedge that face each other, Park carbon paste on the seatmast and the side of the wedge that rests against the toptube.

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #681 on: April 22, 2025, 07:30:09 AM »
Once the dacal is applied to the frame, can you feel the thickness by running your fingers over it?
I will also buy a set of stickers from SpeedyDecal, and I am undecided whether to apply them under transparent (I also have to paint the frame) or over transparent.
I was also wondering if the stickers are resistant to washing and weather conditions....do you already have experience with the durability of SpeedyDecal stickers?
Thanks
They're reasonably durable cut vinyl. IRRC you can order them in a thin thickness for under clear or a more robust vinyl for over clear. Mine are over clear. I've used them on other builds with success, both ways.

dovh

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #682 on: April 22, 2025, 07:38:47 AM »
My bad. I was thinking wedge clamp barrel, which is where my creak was. Your part is here:https://www.performancebike.com/specialized-alpinist-upper-lower-seat-clamps-black-w-hardware-kit-s204900004/p1269982?gad_source=4&gbraid=0AAAAAC1tmAvmXujKe6TsjXkigO-Qb7VOj&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_JzABhC2ARIsAPe3ynrqfuNXMEo72iD9B4JR5Wa3kr5nMPI2KyfFilBaL-x0uQ8loqnQIYkaArVGEALw_wcB

Yeah, I found that. I ordered the part from the local specialized service center here, and they said it should arrive sometime next week.
It's the whole assembly like the one you sent here, and just that nut part is not sold separately.

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #683 on: April 22, 2025, 01:35:02 PM »
Hello everyone,

i'm reasonably certain that I will order the frame.

I had some questions for TanTan (via the Seraph-website) beforehand which were answered by Rose.

1) maybe also for you guys information:
I asked for the maximum weight limit. The answer is 130 kg (not specified wether its system- or riderweight, but even assuming systemweight thats more than enough for me).

2) I asked what a few extra spacers would cost. Answer for that is 50 USD for 3 spacers (5+10+10 mm).
I find that a bit ... steep tbh. Dont even know if I really need them, just want to be on the safe side here.
Aliexpress does have some SL8 spacers that are at least a bit cheaper.
Does anyone know wether or not they fit? And does anyone have a recommendation?

3) shipping to europe: 150 USD via DPD - ETA 15-30 days.

I would probably also order the Garmin Mount from Seraph, for that price a no brainer I would think.

Thats would be the frame sorted ... I will still have do decide the:
- bottom bracket (or well .. whats there to decide? ... its just a bottom bracket)
- group set (probably Ultegra DI2, but I am considering a Magene P505 as crank+powermeter ... alternatively assioma favero)
- wheels (absolutely no clue yet)
...
anything else I forgot?
Feel free to give me tips and recommendations, I honestly have little clue what I am doing here as it would be my first self-built bike

A couple things-they ship the frame with the max number of spacers Specialized "allows" on the original and cut the steerer to that length. Not sure you'd want to add more, not sure the steerer tube is designed to have the bars that far up, it puts more leverage on the steerer at the bearing. Investigate further.
Any good bsa bottom bracket will be fine.
Mine shipped with the computer mount and various adaptors stock. I don't like either it or the Specialized one, used a Magcad for wahoo bolt.
Do you run a varia? If so, there's a nice sl8 specific mount on esty that is designed with a shape that matches the post and hidden bolts, its like $30.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2025, 01:37:25 PM by glepore »

patliean1

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #684 on: April 22, 2025, 03:18:58 PM »
Once the dacal is applied to the frame, can you feel the thickness by running your fingers over it?
I will also buy a set of stickers from SpeedyDecal, and I am undecided whether to apply them under transparent (I also have to paint the frame) or over transparent.
I was also wondering if the stickers are resistant to washing and weather conditions....do you already have experience with the durability of SpeedyDecal stickers?
Thanks

I have a full set of SpeedyDecals on my SL8. Been using them for about a year now, and I've been caught in some nasty summer rainstorms as well as a full winter of riding.

Durability is just fine. No decal peeling and scuffs so far. Obviously you can feel them since the decals are applied above the frame, so i just simply pay careful attention to those areas when wiping down my bike. Highly recommended.

Tom77

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #685 on: April 22, 2025, 03:43:47 PM »
Awesome paint job.

I ordered two frames, one ud black and one painted, not with a bit so fancy colour.
I'm bad in Photoshop and even worse in explaining stuff to Chinese people, so....

Anyway, paid 4 weeks ago and no proper feedback from Vivian so far.
Asked for a timeline to get the frame shipped and she only sends generic answers.

Frames still not painted after payment made on 5th of march.
No proper feedback from Vivian....starts to angers me.

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #686 on: April 22, 2025, 03:46:01 PM »
Hi All,
Does anyone know if the fork needs a crown race to be installed? When I try and slide on the bearing, it doesn't sit flush so I am curious if a crown race is needed.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #687 on: April 22, 2025, 04:38:52 PM »
Hi All,
Does anyone know if the fork needs a crown race to be installed? When I try and slide on the bearing, it doesn't sit flush so I am curious if a crown race is needed.

No
Will be same as genuine use SL8 manual
https://media.specialized.com/support/collateral/2024_TARMAC_SL8_USER_MANUAL_ENGLISH.pdf

Bonus79

« Last Edit: April 23, 2025, 03:56:18 AM by Bonus79 »

Bonus79

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #689 on: April 23, 2025, 04:02:04 AM »
I have a full set of SpeedyDecals on my SL8. Been using them for about a year now, and I've been caught in some nasty summer rainstorms as well as a full winter of riding.

Durability is just fine. No decal peeling and scuffs so far. Obviously you can feel them since the decals are applied above the frame, so i just simply pay careful attention to those areas when wiping down my bike. Highly recommended.
Hi Patrick,
since you have to paint the frame, do you think it is better to apply them under clear for greater durability and/or less attention during washing?
Thanks