Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 1474743 times)

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #765 on: May 02, 2025, 05:33:03 AM »
Can someone post the exact size of the axles, pls.
Want to order a set of titanium one.

Thx

I assumed the X68 thru axles were the same as the Gen SL8 which are 47grams.
Axles are one thing I have not purchased for my build yet along with seatpost hardware swaps.
I have a genuine spare set.
I have seen Chaser Titanium ones available for UK for £77 on Ali Express and they are 36.8g without hardware so not a huge saving.
Heppe ones on Ali Express I cannot find the right length but they are heavier anyway.
Have you been eying up any thru axles?


Gen Rear
142x12mm rear hub spacing
6mm Allen head
Length: 165mm
Thread Pitch: 1.0mm

Gen Front
100x12mm front hub spacing
6mm Allen head
Length: 121mm
Thread Pitch: 1.0mm

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #766 on: May 02, 2025, 06:32:55 AM »
I bought the Chasers. They're nice, but the allen key only goes in the side with threads, annoying to install.
I believe the tan tan ones are around the weight of the originals, I'll post the weight shortly.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #767 on: May 02, 2025, 06:46:27 AM »
I bought the Chasers. They're nice, but the allen key only goes in the side with threads, annoying to install.
I believe the tan tan ones are around the weight of the originals, I'll post the weight shortly.

Ok thanks


Bonus79

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #769 on: May 02, 2025, 08:08:26 AM »

Gen Rear
142x12mm rear hub spacing
6mm Allen head
Length: 165mm
Thread Pitch: 1.0mm

Thread length?
Thanks

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #770 on: May 02, 2025, 08:22:31 AM »
Tantan's weigh 59 grams, so a bit heavier than Specialized.

Chaser's are a decent savings over them.

I looked around on ali for a bit and didn't see anything lighter than the stock Specialized until you stepped up to Chaser, and beyond that to Overfast and some of the other really pricy skewers.

Thread length is 13mm both front and rear.

Report back if you find anything under 40g.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #771 on: May 02, 2025, 10:15:28 AM »
Thread length?
Thanks


Hmmmm I cannot find online the measurements
And I’m away at the moment and cannot measure the one  is have but typically from memory and look at pictures it’s 12mm.
I have just literally ordered Sixweel Thru Axles €150 26-28grams will put these on my SL8 and use the Overfast on my X68.
Evan Wang who owns Sixweel brand is also planning Thru Axles under his Ti Master brand as well these will be even lighter!  But around €350!

CoreX88

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #772 on: May 02, 2025, 10:52:15 AM »
Hi there,

unfortunately I have to warn everyone on the quality of the fork. Two hours ago I started on my friday routine route and under some braking with the front-brake in front of a crossing the fork imploded. Apart from some minor scratches I'm okay, but the bike took some hits while going over the handlebar... I was super satisfied with the riding quality of the bike so far, but I was not braking hard and just going under 25 kph before the crossing...

Let's see how TanTan will handle this...

Tines

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #773 on: May 02, 2025, 11:02:56 AM »
Yikes,

Glad you’re okay

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #774 on: May 02, 2025, 11:21:45 AM »
Oh jeez! You have me worried now. No prior crashes or major bumps against the fork?

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #775 on: May 02, 2025, 11:33:22 AM »
It sheared at the caliper mounting location?

As an aside, I know folks hate to resize photos but large photos are hard to view on a smallish screen-think laptop...

CoreX88

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #776 on: May 02, 2025, 11:43:07 AM »
Oh jeez! You have me worried now. No prior crashes or major bumps against the fork?

Nope, no bump and no crash. I really took good care of it and I've ridden it just for a bit under 150 km...

It sheared at the caliper mounting location?

See below and resized ;) I remember it first cracked on the left above the caliper. The thickness of the material in this section is really thin...
« Last Edit: May 02, 2025, 11:45:53 AM by CoreX88 »

patliean1

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #777 on: May 02, 2025, 11:46:17 AM »
Happy to hear you are safe.

Just so I understand more clearly. You were braking and the fork snapped near the caliper under load?

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #778 on: May 02, 2025, 11:47:57 AM »

The $40 for the new seatpost seems fair so that good news.
I will press  for the installation instructions myself and see what they say, once I get confirmation that the frame is finished, I’ll update everyone.

As with my Venge, SL7, and SL8 builds, I won’t be using the supplied expander plug — I’ll fit a Carbon-Ti or Extralite expander instead.

I’ll check if my Darimo post from the SL8 fits out of interest
I’ll likely use the supplied post, cut it down, and swap the fitting and cradle to save weight.
Trying my best to keep this build budget!

I've got a carbon cradle here, its a couple grams lighter, not sure if its worth the trouble. Are you going to use yokes instead of the alu top piece?
Have a couple extralight expanders here, know folks use them, but there must be a reason Specialized uses the overbuilt one, likely liability if a failure.
As to a manual, there's an early post here where someone was told to use the sl8 manual.

CoreX88

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #779 on: May 02, 2025, 11:58:53 AM »
Happy to hear you are safe.

Just so I understand more clearly. You were braking and the fork snapped near the caliper under load?

Yes, I was approaching a smaller crossing and used the front brake to slow down (I guess right before left rule is used on most countries :D ) and then it snapped couple of centimeters over the caliper.