Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 167946 times)

makl

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #780 on: April 30, 2025, 01:27:53 PM »
Your problem with the freehub is due to bad tolerances.
When you are torquing the axle you are making contact between the freehub body and the hub body.

I guess you have to add shims between the inner race of the freehub and the inner race of the wheel bearing.
Check ebay for shims, easiest way.

Thanks for all your help! I turned a new spacer which is 0,2 mm longer - problem solved! Everything works fine now.

Davidhe23

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #781 on: May 01, 2025, 11:27:10 AM »
Does anyone else have this problem with the frame?

greengoblinbean

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #782 on: May 01, 2025, 11:37:46 AM »
Took mine out for a bit of a longer ride yesterday. Still blown away with the comfort and smoothness compared to my Winspace. I'll be using this bike in longer road races so I can follow up once I do a few of those. Otherwise I am superrrr happy with my purchase. For under $700 shipped to my door, it's hard to complain for a 7kg build. Only thing I am curious about is the derailleur hanger and the seat post. Are these the same as the original specialized ones?

Quick update. I've been on some longer rides and I really enjoy the bike. It is super comfy and exactly what I was looking for to do longer endurance rides and climb heavy road races. I definitely do notice that it is not as stiff as my Winspace when sprinting. Probably losing some watts so I will definitely be sticking with my Winspace for crits ;). One additional thing to note about the rapide cockpit from aliexpress; the computer mount nut that is in the handlebar is crap. It will loosen and eventually come out of the handlebar. I almost gave up on it and ordered another solution, but I was able to use needle nose tweezers to squeeze in a much bigger wing style nut into the handlebar to properly hold my computer mount. Something to note, so I would advise against ordering those bars unless you really feel like tinkering around with nuts and bolts.
Picture of my Winspace for fun  ;D

greengoblinbean

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #783 on: May 01, 2025, 11:39:26 AM »
Does anyone else have this problem with the frame?
That's about the size of the gap I have on mine. Could probably be reduced with the genuine roval spacers

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #784 on: May 01, 2025, 11:48:17 AM »
Does anyone else have this problem with the frame?

This issue has actually been discussed at length on the Weight Weenies forum regarding the genuine SL8 as well. It looks like the bottom of the transition spacer isn’t perfectly flat — it dips at the front and ends up rubbing against the top tube.

You could try lightly sanding it down using fine sandpaper on a flat surface to level it out, or alternatively, order a set of genuine spacers and see if that resolves it.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2025, 02:47:19 PM by Sander2177 »
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X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm
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MTB-Addicted

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #785 on: May 01, 2025, 02:26:02 PM »
This issue has actually been discussed at length on the Weight Weenies forum regarding the genuine SL8 as well. It looks like the bottom of the transition spacer isn’t perfectly flat — it dips at the front and ends up rubbing against the top tube.

You could try lightly sanding it down using fine sandpaper on a flat surface to level it out, or alternatively, order a set of genuine spacers and see if that resolves it.

This is exactly what I did with my frame, size 56 (but mine is from Taiwaneisen and you might think it is different…)

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #786 on: May 01, 2025, 02:36:20 PM »
Quick update. I've been on some longer rides and I really enjoy the bike. It is super comfy and exactly what I was looking for to do longer endurance rides and climb heavy road races. I definitely do notice that it is not as stiff as my Winspace when sprinting. Probably losing some watts so I will definitely be sticking with my Winspace for crits ;). One additional thing to note about the rapide cockpit from aliexpress; the computer mount nut that is in the handlebar is crap. It will loosen and eventually come out of the handlebar. I almost gave up on it and ordered another solution, but I was able to use needle nose tweezers to squeeze in a much bigger wing style nut into the handlebar to properly hold my computer mount. Something to note, so I would advise against ordering those bars unless you really feel like tinkering around with nuts and bolts.
Picture of my Winspace for fun  ;D

The computer mount nut gets a lot of mentions. The one from tantan seems secure. I'm running a magcad and wahoo bolt, so the lever arm is much shorter and the mount is lighter with greater bar contact than the roval clone.

patliean1

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #787 on: May 01, 2025, 02:43:26 PM »
Most of my wish list items on Ali Express either no longer ship to the USA or the link has been removed altogether.

Can't even find the ones @greengoblinbean posted anymore ;D

greengoblinbean

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #788 on: May 01, 2025, 04:45:26 PM »
Most of my wish list items on Ali Express either no longer ship to the USA or the link has been removed altogether.

Can't even find the ones @greengoblinbean posted anymore ;D

Wow you're right! Even in my order history I click the link and it's not there. Guess I got lucky as these only set me back $80 and the handlebar itself is actually great quality. Reason I went with these is because Tan-Tan's max stem length is 120 which wasn't adequate for me.

Tom77

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #789 on: Today at 02:00:59 AM »
Can someone post the exact size of the axles, pls.
Want to order a set of titanium one.

Thx

J.J.

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #790 on: Today at 02:37:06 AM »
The bars at the Aliexpress link posted by @greengoblinbean are still available to me. I'm in the UK though so it does look like Aliexpress sellers are  removing the links to products for US based customers.

Those bars are currently 92 GBP for me (roughly 120 USD) so at 80 USD, they were a great deal.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #791 on: Today at 05:33:03 AM »
Can someone post the exact size of the axles, pls.
Want to order a set of titanium one.

Thx

I assumed the X68 thru axles were the same as the Gen SL8 which are 47grams.
Axles are one thing I have not purchased for my build yet along with seatpost hardware swaps.
I have a genuine spare set.
I have seen Chaser Titanium ones available for UK for £77 on Ali Express and they are 36.8g without hardware so not a huge saving.
Heppe ones on Ali Express I cannot find the right length but they are heavier anyway.
Have you been eying up any thru axles?


Gen Rear
142x12mm rear hub spacing
6mm Allen head
Length: 165mm
Thread Pitch: 1.0mm

Gen Front
100x12mm front hub spacing
6mm Allen head
Length: 121mm
Thread Pitch: 1.0mm
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X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm
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glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #792 on: Today at 06:32:55 AM »
I bought the Chasers. They're nice, but the allen key only goes in the side with threads, annoying to install.
I believe the tan tan ones are around the weight of the originals, I'll post the weight shortly.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #793 on: Today at 06:46:27 AM »
I bought the Chasers. They're nice, but the allen key only goes in the side with threads, annoying to install.
I believe the tan tan ones are around the weight of the originals, I'll post the weight shortly.

Ok thanks
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11kgs RhinosWorkShop Build

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm
6.4kgs Current Estimate