Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 1473689 times)

humbling9430

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1245 on: June 13, 2025, 04:23:33 AM »
Reporting back, might need to go for the 54 or look elsewhere...

Just got a reply re: seatpost length.

"44/49/52 use 300mm seatpost
54/56/58 use 380mm seatpost"
"52cm cannot use 380mm, the frame will be damaged"
"All seatposts must be inserted at least 100mm"

My current bike has a saddle height of 698mm from the BB, and from BB to saddle rails of approx 670mm. The Ultimate has a seat tube length of 494mm, so that's approx 176mm seat tube exposed. This is also with 172.5mm cranks, which I wanted to change to 165mm.

The X68 in 52 has a 456mm seat tube. To get the same saddle height for same leg extension, I'd need the same BB to saddle dimensions - so approx 214mm seat tube exposed (670 - 456). With the change to 165mm cranks, this would increase to 221.5mm. With minimum insertion of 100mm, I'd need the 380mm seat tube, which apparently will damage the frame (hard to see how, given the 54 seat tube length is only 17mm more - maybe the seat tubes are slightly different dimension?)

Lotnik

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1246 on: June 13, 2025, 04:29:48 AM »
Take 380 mm seatpost and cut it.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1247 on: June 13, 2025, 04:54:31 AM »
Take 380 mm seatpost and cut it.


Agree!

but dont tell them your cutting it lol ;D

I would  say something like this:
I ride in a super aero position on a 52cm frame, which means I need a high saddle.
A 300mm seat post is too short — it doesn’t give enough height, and it would only insert about 50mm into the frame, which is not safe.
I need a 380mm seat post to get the correct saddle height.
With the 380mm seat post, about 130mm will still be inserted into the frame — this is safe and will not cause any damage."

They may however only sell the frame with the 300mm post like specialized so you will have to buy the seat post separately

I bought a spare post after cutting 30mm off mine just in case it was $50

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1248 on: June 13, 2025, 06:34:35 AM »
I agree with all of the above. Just cut the post if needed. For reference, I run a total height to the saddle of 67.5 from center of  bb on 165's. 49 cm frame with the short post. At that saddle height it sits right at the "19" mark on the post, which I assume is 19mm from the minimum insertion, or it may just be arbitrary. I'd order the frame and the longer post, and just use whatever you need to use, either the short post or cut the 380 down.

humbling9430

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1249 on: June 13, 2025, 07:38:24 AM »

I bought a spare post after cutting 30mm off mine just in case it was $50

Okay I'll check with them - might reach out to TanTan directly, I was chatting with the person from Seraph. See if they have a different view/can do the other seatposst.

@Sander, when you cut the seatpost, what did you do about the Di2 battery mounting clip? Did you drill new holes in, or is it sitting "loose"?

fhill

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1250 on: June 13, 2025, 08:17:40 AM »
Okay I'll check with them - might reach out to TanTan directly, I was chatting with the person from Seraph. See if they have a different view/can do the other seatposst.

@Sander, when you cut the seatpost, what did you do about the Di2 battery mounting clip? Did you drill new holes in, or is it sitting "loose"?

Take another battery holder option from AliExpress, there's one that expands with a screw and therefore sits really good in the seatpost

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1251 on: June 13, 2025, 08:27:07 AM »
Take another battery holder option from AliExpress, there's one that expands with a screw and therefore sits really good in the seatpost

I cut and redrilled the holes.
Have also DMed you

simplywyn

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1252 on: June 13, 2025, 10:30:20 PM »
I'm looking at getting a x68, read through all 80 pages of this thread, can anyone offer me any thing that I can stop my decision to get this frame? So far everyone seems to have a great deal of fun

Dr J

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1253 on: June 14, 2025, 01:39:29 AM »
I'm looking at getting a x68, read through all 80 pages of this thread, can anyone offer me any thing that I can stop my decision to get this frame? So far everyone seems to have a great deal of fun
Look at that picture of the broken fork again :).

ufo_dd

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1254 on: June 14, 2025, 04:42:55 AM »
Has anyone from Europe, especially Germany, already received an X68 frame and can tell me how many days it took from order to delivery?

I'm asking because I'm going on vacation soon and want to avoid the frame arriving while I'm away if I order now. But ordering after the vacation would be too late for me – I still want to get some use out of it this season.

EddytheEagle

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1255 on: June 14, 2025, 05:08:05 AM »
Has anyone from Europe, especially Germany, already received an X68 frame and can tell me how many days it took from order to delivery?

I'm asking because I'm going on vacation soon and want to avoid the frame arriving while I'm away if I order now. But ordering after the vacation would be too late for me – I still want to get some use out of it this season.

This happened to me! Lucky you, in case you are not at home, you can change the delivery via the DPD app to send it to your neighbor in the worst case.
All in all, I have to admit the whole delivery time + production time was quite fast... It’s more the impatience that made me nervous because I already had all the other parts at home, just waiting to be put in place...

EddytheEagle

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1256 on: June 14, 2025, 05:11:36 AM »
Is there anybody who might be interested in a new pair of Ltwoo brake calipers from the new eRX kit? Since they don’t fit to the X68 frame from TanTan, they are no longer needed. Sorry if this isn’t the right thread to post this in... in case of interest just write me a DM wish you all a pleasant weekend!!!

Davidhe23

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1257 on: June 14, 2025, 06:13:07 AM »
Well at least noting else disintegrated!
This one should last a while longer.

Sander,
Is there an option so that it does not rub the headset of the address and spacers?

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1258 on: June 14, 2025, 08:17:00 AM »
Sander,
Is there an option so that it does not rub the headset of the address and spacers?


Davidhe23

I think maybe something had gotten lost in translation.
I don’t understand what you mean.
If you can send me photos that is always good

Are your spacers rubbing on the headset area of the frame? Is this what you mean?

Davidhe23

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1259 on: June 14, 2025, 10:28:07 AM »

Davidhe23

I think maybe something had gotten lost in translation.
I don't understand what you mean.
If you can send me photos, that's always good.

Are your spacers rubbing on the headset area of the frame? Is this what you mean?


Yes, spacers brush against the frame. I already have the new yoho frame, I've tried introducing the seapost of my x68 and it fits perfectly.