Author Topic: Which immersive wax are you using?  (Read 103146 times)

jonathanf2

Re: Which immersive wax are you using?
« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2025, 10:32:55 AM »
Tried. I got nothing on Ali.

I don't think they sell KMC chains on AliEx. I bought my chains from US Amazon?

Tijoe

Re: Which immersive wax are you using?
« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2025, 06:05:55 PM »
I believe that there an not many pre-waxed chains for sale.   Over time, most waxes are hydrophobic.  Wax does not provide good long term protection when a chain is stored.  Perhaps if the waxed chain is stored in moisture impermeable packaging it would not let the wax absorb moisture and the chain rust.

I think that on a secondary level, chain manufacturers manufacture their chains in bulk and it is most cost effective to immerse them in a lubricant that protects the chain from rusting after the chain is manufactured.  Bulk chain might be stored for long periods of time before they are made to length and packaged for sale.  Nothing worse to a chain manufacturer than trying to sell chains with rust on them.

jonathanf2

Re: Which immersive wax are you using?
« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2025, 08:55:16 AM »
I believe that there an not many pre-waxed chains for sale.   Over time, most waxes are hydrophobic.  Wax does not provide good long term protection when a chain is stored.  Perhaps if the waxed chain is stored in moisture impermeable packaging it would not let the wax absorb moisture and the chain rust.

I think that on a secondary level, chain manufacturers manufacture their chains in bulk and it is most cost effective to immerse them in a lubricant that protects the chain from rusting after the chain is manufactured.  Bulk chain might be stored for long periods of time before they are made to length and packaged for sale.  Nothing worse to a chain manufacturer than trying to sell chains with rust on them.

The "waxed" KMC chains aren't fully pre-waxed, just degreased ready for the waxing process. They're not great running straight out of the box. I still have to dip the chain before running it on the bike.

Tijoe

Re: Which immersive wax are you using?
« Reply #63 on: September 11, 2025, 10:36:34 AM »
Since the KMC X12 Titanium Nitride coating creates a tough protective barrier, it is a lot less susceptible to corrosion during storage.  The Ti-N coating is more for the bling than functional.   Since it appear that they coat the rollers as well, this is why they can wax rather than oil the chain.

I have KMC X12s on 5 of my rides.  I have been pleased with them,  From my perspective, chains are a consumable wear item.   I replace the chain every year on 3 of the bikes I ride the most, and perhaps every 2 years on the other 2 bikes.  I do have a chain checker, and I find I replace before they indicate they should be replaced.  I believe that this helps reduce the wear on the cassette and front chain ring/s.

One other reason some riders swap and run 2 different chains per bike is that this helps with more even wear of the cassette cogs and front ring.  (I am too lazy to keep track of this.)   Perhaps if I am able to purchase a lot of chains at a really good price, I could purchase 2x more chains and start the chain swap practice.   At $44 retail, and $71.5 retail for the silver chain and Ti Gold, I would have to spend  $440 to & $710 every other year.   

I last paid about $25 each for the regular KMC X12 chains.  Very soon, I am going to swap in a couple of "ZTTO 12s rainbow SLR chains" I purchased for $16 each after coins and coupons back in February. (Don't have a clue how these will work.)

jonathanf2

Re: Which immersive wax are you using?
« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2025, 11:18:13 AM »
I'm currently traveling right now and borrowed a bike I built for a family member. I previously had degreased and waxed the chain on the bike. It needed a re-wax so I found a small slow cooker in the garage and a big candle. I cut off chunks from the candle, melted it in the slow cooker and used it on the chain. Surprisingly the candle wax works great and better than using any sort of drip chain grease!  ;D

bremerradkurier

Re: Which immersive wax are you using?
« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2025, 01:08:42 PM »
Since the KMC X12 Titanium Nitride coating creates a tough protective barrier, it is a lot less susceptible to corrosion during storage.  The Ti-N coating is more for the bling than functional.   Since it appear that they coat the rollers as well, this is why they can wax rather than oil the chain.

I have KMC X12s on 5 of my rides.  I have been pleased with them,  From my perspective, chains are a consumable wear item.   I replace the chain every year on 3 of the bikes I ride the most, and perhaps every 2 years on the other 2 bikes.  I do have a chain checker, and I find I replace before they indicate they should be replaced.  I believe that this helps reduce the wear on the cassette and front chain ring/s.

One other reason some riders swap and run 2 different chains per bike is that this helps with more even wear of the cassette cogs and front ring.  (I am too lazy to keep track of this.)   Perhaps if I am able to purchase a lot of chains at a really good price, I could purchase 2x more chains and start the chain swap practice.   At $44 retail, and $71.5 retail for the silver chain and Ti Gold, I would have to spend  $440 to & $710 every other year.   

I last paid about $25 each for the regular KMC X12 chains.  Very soon, I am going to swap in a couple of "ZTTO 12s rainbow SLR chains" I purchased for $16 each after coins and coupons back in February. (Don't have a clue how these will work.)

I'm not sure how the end of de minimus will affect the delivered price, but my link at Merlin still shows the god KMC X12 TinN pre-waxed chain at under 40 USD, and they claim free shipping to the US at $337ish.