Author Topic: Carbon spoke Q on new wheelset  (Read 272 times)

Curt D

Carbon spoke Q on new wheelset
« on: February 12, 2025, 06:28:50 PM »
Looking at these https://www.ornanbike.com/ultralight-23mm-inner-3-2mm-width-ud-carbon-wheels-race-pro-700c-road_p188.html in either the 2.2 or 5.5mm spokes. I like the 23/32 widths and the weight is silly good.
 I recall reading that some spokes can fail sooner due to the bonding method of the ends. If so, is there any way to tell visually or what would should I ask Ornan about thier spokes?  I couldn't find a definite answer online. Thanks!



toxin

Re: Carbon spoke Q on new wheelset
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2025, 07:09:02 PM »
The set as a whole is a bit lacking, but the spokes are fine.

Curt D

Re: Carbon spoke Q on new wheelset
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2025, 07:16:25 PM »
The set as a whole is a bit lacking, but the spokes are fine.

Could you elaborate? I'm here to gain some knowledge  :)
I have Wheelsfar Kaze 21/28 on road now. I run GP5000 28s.

toxin

Re: Carbon spoke Q on new wheelset
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2025, 08:46:33 PM »
The 5.5 mm spokes don't fit the 20 spoke hubs, only the 21-24 spoke hub set. These are heavier, the spoke insertion and retention method is less reliable and potentially dangerous and the spoke count is just unnecessarily high. The 3.2 mm spokes that do fit the 20 spoke hubs are much worse aerodynamically. Shallower, thicker and a completely unoptimised cross section. The 5.5mm spoke also has fairly long cylindrical sections on the ends, worse than some alternatives.  This is another aerodynamic penalty.

Ornan could very easily get their hands on spokes that could remedy those critiques a little bit. They don't seem to be too keen on updating their site, maybe they do offer more on request.

I've run some cfd sims on these profiles, not enough to be conclusive, but I haven't been too impressed so far.