ICAN TT017 TT Bike Build

[Triexpress]

I've been looking at your pictures, and the technical drawings a bit. These are just my thoughts.

In the current configuration, all the load is transferred both via the bolts (the bolts work mostly in tension), as well as via the spacer stack (these are under compression).
This mechanism or load transfer doesn't really change when u put the Winow extensions, or some other extensions instead of the ski poles. Most of the load is on your elbows and go through the plate either way.

If you were to change the extension and use the existing base plate. Then you are stuck with a base plate that has the interface/holes for the ski pole extensions.
What material is this base plate? Aluminium? Or steel? Depending on the material, you could grind off the fittings for the ski poles. If the plate is steel, I'm 99% certain this would be fine and still strong enough. Not so sure about aluminium.

Manufacturing a new plate would also be an option, but pretty hard. Since, like you said, it would need the same male/female interface to interact correctly with the spacer stack. And the holes for the bolts also need the right chamfer/radius on the top, so that you can use the different angle spacers for the base plate.

I would reach out to ICAN to purchase a extra base plate (part 22 on the drawings) and modify it as best as you can. But this would obviously depend on the price for this part.

The plate is made of steel. You can and would need to cut off the fitting for the steel pole to fit the Winow bars. I borrowed a set from a friend and the pole fittings clash with the bars unless you raise the angle with the Winow angle spacer.
I don't see this as a problem and I'm sure it would not affect the strength.

Yes, a new plate would need to have the right chamfer angle if you use the angled riser pieces. I was planning on using a plate without the angled riser and fit angle pieces to the new bars and plate to avoid this.

Ask ICAN for a cost of an additional plate or ask them if they can modify it. The more people that ask they may listen and change the design. I have asked and they said they would not change the design. I also told them after I built the bike as part of some feedback that this is the major drawback for this bike as its very common for people to fit alternative areo bars to TT bikes.

[bnam2043]

Your bike look nice, wish that i can buy that frameset in Vietnam, Ican has agent in Asia which is Quick and Sherry refuse to sale it...
Quick sale the frameset for 16800 CNY    ~ 2300 USD @@

[Aradell]

Ask ICAN for a cost of an additional plate or ask them if they can modify it. The more people that ask they may listen and change the design. I have asked and they said they would not change the design. I also told them after I built the bike as part of some feedback that this is the major drawback for this bike as its very common for people to fit alternative areo bars to TT bikes.

FYI. After a lot of back and forth, they responded that I could buy a extra baseplate for 120 USD.
They also quoted me 950 USD for the frameset, which is actually a really good price in my opinion.

[ngthanhphuc]

Your bike look nice, wish that i can buy that frameset in Vietnam, Ican has agent in Asia which is Quick and Sherry refuse to sale it...
Quick sale the frameset for 16800 CNY    ~ 2300 USD @@

Chào anh,
You can ask a third party to purchase it in China and ship it from China to Vietnam.

[tg]

Can you have more information on the extra baseplate? Just the same one so you can modify it? Or have they finally designed a baseplate for modern extensions? Otherwise, they offered me the same price for the frame, which is actually not bad, but then 120 for just a baseplate... to solve the problem of poor design, it's expensive.

[Aradell]

Can you have more information on the extra baseplate? Just the same one so you can modify it? Or have they finally designed a baseplate for modern extensions? Otherwise, they offered me the same price for the frame, which is actually not bad, but then 120 for just a baseplate... to solve the problem of poor design, it's expensive.

Just the same baseplate that you would have to modify yourself.
But yeah, the price for the frameset is actually really good. However, 120USD for a extra steel plate is crazy.

[klindsey00]

I swear I've seen that baseplate on a name brand frame at some point, might try to see if you can track that down cheaper (if it matches of course)

[Triexpress]

Just the same baseplate that you would have to modify yourself.
But yeah, the price for the frameset is actually really good. However, 120USD for a extra steel plate is crazy.

Does the 120USD include shipping?
I'm going to try and adapt an old plate I have. If it doesn't work I may buy one but the price is hard to accept. Once I get my new bars I will post some pictures if it works.

One thing i have noticed is the 45mm long torx head screw they supply with the plate, reaches the end of the thread in the riser. So I cant tighten one screw up fully when using the angle piece riser. I have replaced these with hex head screws at the right length so I don't need to carry a torx tool. I have told ICAN about this issue.

[bnam2043]

Chào anh,
You can ask a third party to purchase it in China and ship it from China to Vietnam.

Anh có biết đơn vị nào có thể mua ở Trung Quốc và ship về Việt Nam không?
Cảm ơn.

[Matte]

Hi, just joined this group as I'm condition an Ican TT017 timetrial frame, just wondering how those who have bought and built one are getting on? Any issues or anything to look out for?
I've had quite a few sets of wheels from China, but not a frame.
Still a bit undecided as to whether to progress, just based on safety considerations. As I've no idea how safe the frame would be.
Thanks, M.

[Triexpress]

Hi, just joined this group as I'm condition an Ican TT017 timetrial frame, just wondering how those who have bought and built one are getting on? Any issues or anything to look out for?
I've had quite a few sets of wheels from China, but not a frame.
Still a bit undecided as to whether to progress, just based on safety considerations. As I've no idea how safe the frame would be.
Thanks, M.

I have been riding my TT017 for around 5hrs a week since April with no issues so far.

[Triexpress]

Update to the build.
Winow bars now added. I have used a plate from an old set up along with the custom 15 degree angle adapters. The mono riser has the 10 degree angle and then the plate has 15 degree angle adapters, so 25 degrees in total.
The mono riser has an opening so the cables can easily exit this and up into the Winow bars.
Much more aero and comfortable than the stock standard. I will email ICAN again to show them what people want and see if they take it onboard.

[muringuets]

Update to the build.
Winow bars now added. I have used a plate from an old set up along with the custom 15 degree angle adapters. The mono riser has the 10 degree angle and then the plate has 15 degree angle adapters, so 25 degrees in total.
The mono riser has an opening so the cables can easily exit this and up into the Winow bars.
Much more aero and comfortable than the stock standard. I will email ICAN again to show them what people want and see if they take it onboard.

How did you fix the FastTT to the mono post? I assume you're using the bolts and no recess/groove on the plate to make the male/female engagement (like you mentioned before on this thread). If that's the case, then it's much easier to adapt a new front end to the bike.

[Triexpress]

How did you fix the FastTT to the mono post? I assume you're using the bolts and no recess/groove on the plate to make the male/female engagement (like you mentioned before on this thread). If that's the case, then it's much easier to adapt a new front end to the bike.

Yes, I used new bolts that are not countersunk so no recess or groove. Because of the 10 degree angle at the top of the riser, the bolts pass through the plate at an angle so, I drilled through at a slight angle as I wanted the fixing as tight as possible. If these holes are loose and the bolts not tight enough to clamp the plate there would be some play. The bolts were M6 and the hole is 6mm so no to little clearance.

If I used the 15 degree angle the bolts would pass through the plate at more of an angle and most of the contact/clamping would be done on one side of the bolt head. Not ideal, so countersinking at the correct angle would be the way to go.

This is my attempt at making it work with the parts I had at hand. I'm sure someone could machine a bespoke plate for this if ICAN are reluctant to do so.

[Bassa80]

Hello to the triathlon experts, I am currently planning my first triathlon build and have some questions about the ICAN TT 017 frameset:
It appears that it is currently more or less the only frame with a UDH bottom bracket.

So questions No1:
Is it possible to build this frame with a 1 x 13 SRAM setup?
That would mean a
SRAM Rival AXS XPLR E1 13 rear derailleur
2 sets of blobs
a 10-46 cassette (yes I now that 46 is huge for triathlon, but we have plenty of short hills with about 10% around, so the 46 could save me while the rest of the cassette is mostly the some as the 12s 10-36
and a KMC go waxed chain (does this work with 13s?)

And questions No2:
I do not really like the handlebar extensions. Could I simply change those extensions against any other 22 mm carbon extension, like e.g.

 https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005007764273040.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.15.21b7J5giJ5girn&algo_pvid=7246d07a-09cf-4497-9650-eaf59c34f3ff&algo_exp_id=7246d07a-09cf-4497-9650-eaf59c34f3ff-14&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22116%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2165.75%2134.19%21%21%21538.05%21279.79%21%402103919917524235955481282ef0aa%2112000042127072689%21sea%21DE%212165347653%21X&curPageLogUid=bUqJabXQiWUj&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

Thanks for you help and feedback!