Author Topic: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)  (Read 79533 times)

Ultramic

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #75 on: July 17, 2026, 03:30:05 AM »

kbernstein

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #76 on: July 17, 2026, 03:52:44 AM »
the app hints that a FD might be coming... i really hope so

Serge_K

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #77 on: July 17, 2026, 04:47:44 AM »
For those seeking exotic groupsets, bear in mind that patents can be (are) geography dependent. This came up on a recent Nero Show with Joe from Panda Podium, or something like that, can't remember.
So, when there are questions around 1. why is this groupset not available outside China 2. is it true it might not work / risks getting bricked outside of China, it might simply be a legal protection.
Point being, don't assume it's a conspiracy theory so the white man pays more, and that you'd be scoring a great deal going exotic.

Having installed lots of twoo electronic groups, starting with the first gen, my only recommendation is: dont. do not be an early adopter, not now that you can get mini groups from shimano di2 on aliexpress at very decent prices. Out of all the bikes i've built, virtually all the issues that arise are groupset related, and almost all of these are electronic ltwoo related. When the stuff works, it works. But much more often than you'd like, it doesnt. And that's extremely annoying. All the more now that (i'm in Europe) tariffs, shipping, and general shenanigans on Aliexpress have increased prices 40% in a few months. It used to be that you could replace a shifter or derailleur or battery housing for cheap. Not anymore. Do look at replacement parts, 1 shifter can now cost half of what i paid for the entire ltwoo group. And you're hostage of that, if the rear derailleur or a shifter needs replacing, you either replace it, or scrap the entire group, there's no in between when it's electronic.

raisinberry777

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #78 on: July 17, 2026, 07:26:03 AM »
On the Taobao listing there's three versions of the rear derailleur, a 28-36t version (for folding bikes), a 46-50t version for road/gravel and a 52t version for gravel. 

As Serge_K says, nothing to be gained here by being an early adopter, but I think it's one to watch. Hopefully the buttons have improved since their first outing at Shanghai 2025, that seemed to be the main ergonomics issue.

jfcb

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #79 on: July 17, 2026, 08:46:51 AM »
Please let there be guinea pigs. :)  If the price incl shipping is cheap enough for people in certain regions why not take the risk and enlighten us here on your findings.
 
Pros:
Sensah didn't rush this out. Taking more than 1.5 years to bring it to market suggests they did actual, rigorous testing. With their aim of supplying it to the domestic Chinese OEM market, the product might already have good maturity

Cons:
Competitors like Wheeltop and L-Twoo have given Chinese electronic groupsets a bad reputation. Both brands rushed releases and forced early adopters to deal with major bugs. Sensah might follow that same Chinese mentality of product development: release now, patch later.

So up to the early users to find out.

raisinberry777

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #80 on: July 19, 2026, 09:06:17 AM »
Some initial impressions posted in Baidu Tieba:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10876983912?fr=frs

Lots of pics there too.

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #81 on: July 20, 2026, 09:02:56 PM »
Some initial impressions posted in Baidu Tieba:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10876983912?fr=frs

Lots of pics there too.
Just saw this post yesterday( Monday so I have time to surf), want to try it because the shifter is like E1, with high rotation brake.
Chinese rider with weak legs, but would like to share info between China and oversea.

RiP

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #82 on: July 21, 2026, 05:12:38 AM »
Well, this is very interesting...

But, isn't Sentyeh the exclusive branding of Sensah to the Chinese domestic market (or is the other way around, not sure)? That could mean that this new groupset may not be sold officially to and have support in other coutries outside of China. Otherwise, I can easily imagine SRAM nailing them with pattent infringment lawsuits over this groupset...
« Last Edit: July 22, 2026, 02:50:20 AM by RiP »

maxilon

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #83 on: August 05, 2026, 04:09:36 PM »
Whats the price?

casper.f

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #84 on: August 10, 2026, 07:24:47 AM »
Now ships with Seraph bikes:
https://www.seraphbikes.com/new-superlight-road-bike-tt-x7-carbon-wheelset-shimano-105-mechanical-or-di2-groupset-4649515356cm-complete-bike-p7143503.html
Price is insane:
1390 USD for Senthey group, carbon frame, carbon wheels
For reference:
105 R7120: 1590 USD
105 Di2 R7170: 2210 USD
 Is this just smart decoy pricing, or can these groupsets be picked up for close to nothing?

Nilist

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #85 on: August 10, 2026, 08:09:06 AM »
Groupset is 2599 CNY / 385 USD on Taobao

casper.f

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #86 on: August 10, 2026, 08:41:02 AM »
Groupset is 2599 CNY / 385 USD on Taobao
This makes it so much weirder: This is without 14s casette, 14s chain, chainset, aero chainring....
How does TanTan/Seraph/Twitter sell this at a profit?

jfcb

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #87 on: August 10, 2026, 09:36:00 AM »
Because at Taobao they sell the groupset at the retail price and bike manufactures get them at OEM price which is less than half of the retailprice. 

maxilon

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #88 on: August 10, 2026, 03:43:30 PM »
The group set should be good. However, as far as I know there“s no APP for it in USA or Europe

jfcb

Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2026, 03:59:17 AM »
Looks like the waleroad app will be the 'go-to' app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mywhaleroad.sentyeh.global&hl=en
The fact that they call the app SENTYEH ECS makes me assume it should work on the Sentyeh groupset rather than only the rebranded whaleroad groupset. If not the case, I wonder what a consumer of the TWITTER bike has to do to modify their shifting.

Below a short AI summary of the findings in China so far:
Pros
  • Excellent hood ergonomics, often rated better than Wheeltop and more comfortable than expected.
  • Wireless shifting is reported to be fast and reliable.
  • Brake lever design and maintenance access appear well thought out.
  • Includes programmable auxiliary buttons, firmware updates and app-based customization.
  • Settings are stored in the groupset itself, so it remains functional even without frequent app use.
Cons
  • Button click feel is relatively firm compared to SRAM AXS.
  • Long-term reliability is still largely unknown.
  • Replacement parts availability outside China remains a concern.
  • The 14-speed ecosystem (chains, cassettes, wear rates, future compatibility) is still unproven.
  • Many road riders are waiting for a mature 2x version before switching.
App / Software
  • A global Android app exists with firmware updates, battery monitoring, button customization and derailleur adjustment.
  • International support appears planned, although long-term software support remains to be proven.