Lightcarbon: LCR018-D (endurance all-road)

[Shayzzz]

Hello !

Quick question about stem length for the LCR018-D that comes with the HBR17 handlebar ! I'm 191cm tall with an inseam of around 91/92cm. I've decided to go with a 58cm frame, but do you know if I Should go for a 110mm or 120mm stem length?

Thanks!

[Fronk]

Quick question about stem length for the LCR018-D that comes with the HBR17 handlebar ! I'm 191cm tall with an inseam of around 91/92cm. I've decided to go with a 58cm frame, but do you know if I Should go for a 110mm or 120mm stem length?

There is no correct answer to that question without a bikefitting or at least someone to measure and evaluate your flexibility and posture on the bike.

[K-Ninja]

Thanks for the heads-up on the BC11 cage.  I changed my order to the older BC205 style.

I have asked LC about the issue and Wendy replied that they have modified the BC11 design to hold the bottle harder. He provided the attached photo.

[Mndrvld]

Hello !

Quick question about stem length for the LCR018-D that comes with the HBR17 handlebar ! I'm 191cm tall with an inseam of around 91/92cm. I've decided to go with a 58cm frame, but do you know if I Should go for a 110mm or 120mm stem length?

Thanks!

As Fronk mentioned, there is no correct answer to you question. I am the same height and have the same inseam as you but need a 100mm stem 

[cycloholic]

My finished built LC018-D weighing in at 8.050kg with pedals (but before the bar tape was fitted). Not built to be particularly light weight, but just to do long endurance miles. I asked LC to paint the frame Ferrari Red with no graphics, but when I got it, I felt it looked a bit bare without anything, so I named the bike Hardknott after my favourite cycling pass in the Lake district. (If you know it, you'll know why!).

So far, I have only done about 200km which is enough time to say it's comfortable to ride, but certainly not the fastest bike I've ever ridden. The frame feels stiff enough for my power output, despite the internal storage. I have not suffered any seatpost clamping issues, but since my post is painted, the extra paint thickness added may take up some slack.

The build process went smoothly. This was my first full bike build and I found the internal routing not to be an issue. The only issue I faced was paint over spray on the front caliper mount which I carefully removed with a scalpel. I suspect that the rear caliper mount is not 100% flat and so the rear caliper sits a fraction off true. For this I will be taking the bike to a bike shop to face the mounting properly. Otherwise, I cannot fault the LC frame. The external part of Di2 cable for the front derailleur needed to be routed carefully with an extra anchoring point to avoid touching the tyre.

Here is the full spec'...

LC018-D frameset in Ferrari Red - size 52. PPF and Hardknott graphic added.
Ultegra di2 Groupset 50/34 chairings and 11/34 cassette
Brake discs - Shimano Dura Ace RT-CL900-160 (160mm) (x2)
Caliper spacer/adaptor for 160mm rotor (SM-MA-R160D/D)
Chain - Shimano Dura Ace CN-M9100
Saddle - Selle Italia SLR Boost Gravel Superflow TI 316 saddle
Brooks England Cambium handlebar tape (Natural colour)
Bottom Bracket - Token BB47V24 TBT T47 Inboard
Headset bearings - Enduro ACB 4545 150 SS Stainless Steel Bearings
Wheels -  Light Carbon 240DB-UCX30-340-Ray with Sapim spokes ( + extra for brass nipples)
Tyres - MICHELIN Pro 5 Tubeless Classic 700C x 35
Rim tape - Muc-Off  (RBV2709) (half a roll)
Vales - Click Core
Valve - Valve cores bodies 60mm (rainbow)
Assioma PRO MX-2
Hood top spacers for Ultegra shifter tops
Titanium bolt - Handlebar top (x1)
Titanium bolt - Handlebar - steerer clamp (x2)
Titanium bolt - Front durailluer mount to frame (x2)
TitaniumTorx  bolt - Front brake caliper to frame M5x12 (x2)
Titanium Torx bolt - Rear brake caliper to frame M5x35 (x2) [one cut down 2mm]
Titanium bolt - M5x12 bottle mounts (x6)
Titanium bolts for saddle (x2)
Aluminium M5x12x1 washers for caliper mounts
Rainbow effect handlebar end caps

[bsharp77]

Hi all,

Just a couple of notes to make today regarding the LCR018-D.

1. If you have downtube storage - check the latch bolt regularly! Going over a rough patch of road today while out on my ride the whole door went flying with cage and bottle all attached. Managed to get it back without a car driving over it, but my lovely multi coloured anodised finish on the cage has been badly scratched which is very annoying.

2. I retract my statement that this bike isn't overly fast!!

I have a route which I use once a week as my benchmark route for training - around 32km, mixed terrain (280m climbing total).
I have over 50 saved activities on this route, shared between my old Aeroad copy and the LCR018-D.

Best average ive ever had on the Aeroad was 32.2km/hr.
Today on the LCR018-D I averaged 32.1km/hr.

This is not overly scientific, more just to let everyone know that this bike can be fast if you want it to be. Its already crazy comfortable for me, so to have sunshine today and get it out in good weather with a jersey on instead of a winter coat - I put it thorough its paces properly and it really is fantastic. Considering as well that the Aeroad is at least 2-3cm lower in stack, it makes the LCR018-D time even more impressive.

I will be changing the fork on the LCR018-D to my spare one which I have cut lower and will drop the front end by 1.5-2cm, so that should make things even more interesting, but regardless, the bike is fantastic and a joy to ride.

I am not claiming that the LCR018-D is the fastest bike out there, (im building up a Cervelo S3 at the minute which I expect to absolutely crush all my times), but for what is an incredible endurance bike is, it is no slouch!

[Bros]

Best average ive ever had on the Aeroad was 32.2km/hr.
Today on the LCR018-D I averaged 32.1km/hr.

mes), but for what is an incredible endurance bike is, it is no slouch!

Do you have any power data from those rides? I’ve got road segments with over 100 efforts on them, and for a lot of them, the difference between my 8kg road bike and 15kg enduro rig is only about a dozen seconds🙃

[POTOOOOOOOO]

the difference between my 8kg road bike and 15kg enduro rig is only about a dozen seconds🙃

There is something seriously wrong if that’s the case.

[cycloholic]

If it's a flat smooth course, the system weight should make hardly any difference. It's just about power, aero and rolling resistance.

If it's hilly, that's a differnt matter.

[Bros]

There is something seriously wrong if that’s the case.

Why? Aside from the difference between the bikes, I didn't establish any other common variables. I’m tall and heavy (125kg), but at the same time, I put out quite a bit of power (350W@1h). Depending on the day, I might not even feel much of a difference in intensity when riding the same route at 200W versus 260W average power. It’s very subjective. In my opinion, any comparison of frames or bikes only makes sense on the same route, on the same day, at the same power, and for the same person. And it needs to be repeated multiple times. From day to day, or even within the same day, the wind can change direction and skew the results.

​I’ll just add that what I wrote regarding the times on different bikes is the truth. These results were collected over many years, during which both my weight and power output fluctuated. On the enduro bike, I have fairly fast tires, a locked-out suspension, and I usually ride in an 'aero' position (tucked in, holding the bars right by the stem).

[bsharp77]

Just goes to show how different everyone is.
I can tell my power output to within 10-15w no problem, nevermind 60!!
Also, I’ve ridden a lot of bikes, and there’s huge time gaps between even quite similar bikes.
My 2018 TCR for example wouldn’t have a hope of being within 1 minute of my Canyon on a 1 hour effort with some climbing (less than 10m per km).

Anyway, there’s little point in arguing over it.
My point is simple, the LCR018-D is a fantastically fast bike and worth every penny.

[Kbfore]

My finished built LC018-D weighing in at 8.050kg with pedals (but before the bar tape was fitted). Not built to be particularly light weight, but just to do long endurance miles. I asked LC to paint the frame Ferrari Red with no graphics, but when I got it, I felt it looked a bit bare without anything, so I named the bike Hardknott after my favourite cycling pass in the Lake district. (If you know it, you'll know why!).

Where did you get the decals? Did you have to attach them with a certain paste?

[MarioCanario]

I touched base with Wendy and received the quotation for the LCR018-D frame. She replied very quickly and in a very professional way, so I was really pleased with this first exchange.
She also proposed a carbon saddle for US$49 (151 g) and bottle cages BC205 for US$15 each (21 g). Does anybody know these products? For the weight and the price they don’t look bad to me.

The saddle is actually very good in my opinion. And i have tried a lot (15-20) in the past years.

BC205 i have no experience. BC11 i probably wouldnt buy again. Not enough tension to hold many bottles

[cycloholic]

Where did you get the decals? Did you have to attach them with a certain paste?

The decals are actually vinyl self adhesive lettering. You can design them online here...

www.vinylletteringonline.co.uk/lettering-designer

[Kbfore]

The decals are actually vinyl self adhesive lettering. You can design them online here...

www.vinylletteringonline.co.uk/lettering-designer

Did you choose white gloss?