Lightcarbon: LCR018-D (endurance all-road)

[Bender87]

Welcome and thanks for sharing! Could you perhaps elaborate about what's included in the 900EU price? Compared to the 650USD (558EU direct conversion) quoted for the whole set earlier on this thread. Custom paint and shipping make up the 300+EU difference?
And did they indicate when they would ship your frame, and what size did you get?

Depends on the paint job, which was 180$ + DFS 164$ to Germany and 45$ PayPal = 1039$ -> 899€ (when you have a CC which will not charge extra fees for paying in a different currency)

[POTOOOOOOOO]

I'm interested in this frame, but if it does not support "Full Mount" for the new Sram Rival/Force XPLR derailleur, it's a deal breaker.

The latest update is that “theoretically” it will work with XPLR. They’ve modified UDH (so have Factor) so the new standard is already being changed to suit individual company needs. We might as well stick with regular hangars if that’s the case.

From the recent conversation there were two deal breakers. 1. max single ring size of 42 which is way too small for a road bike.
2. They say it “should” and “theoretically” work with XPLR. It’s all a bit too fluffy to commit to buying a Frameset and groupset to try for myself.

Ah well, gorgeous looking frame.

[RiP]

Hi, I'm new around here, but I've been stalking this topic for some time now. So, I decided to register and post, since I'm 90% set on buying one of these frames...   

My plan is to swap the frame from my actual gravel bike (2023 Orbea Terra) for this one, but there are some questions I'm looking into, which I kindly ask if some of you can help me with...

So, my actual gravel bike, as stated, is an Orbea Terra from 2023 with carbon frame (M size), with 2x Shimano GRX mechanical transmission and 40mm Caracal Race tires. From the pictures of this LCR018-D frame, I see mounting hardware and holes on the frame that allow the use of my actual 2x mechanical transmission, right?

Another big question is about the tire clearance, as for my gravel riding, the Caracal Race tires in 40mm are a must. I know this frame is rated for 38c tires, but the pictures of the Eurobike'25 build show it has Wolfpack Gravel Superspeed TLR 40-622 tires mounted. There seems to be some clearance left on the frame and fork, and according to BRR, although they have the same rated size as the Caracal Race TLR 40, these tires are actually 2mm thinner after install (using the same control rim and tire pressure, BRR states de Superspeed is 38,3mm wide and the Cararal 40,3mm wide). Is it safe to assume the 38c tire clearance is conservative, as with other frame manifacturers, and this frame will take the Caracal Race TLR 40 which has a real 40mm semi-slick profile?

Regarding that Eurobike'25 build, the frames on the Google Photos link and catalog, they all seem to be from the same frame size. Do you now which size it is?

Thanks.

[Bender87]

The latest update is that “theoretically” it will work with XPLR. They’ve modified UDH (so have Factor) so the new standard is already being changed to suit individual company needs. We might as well stick with regular hangars if that’s the case.

From the recent conversation there were two deal breakers. 1. max single ring size of 42 which is way too small for a road bike.
2. They say it “should” and “theoretically” work with XPLR. It’s all a bit too fluffy to commit to buying a Frameset and groupset to try for myself.

Ah well, gorgeous looking frame.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLPQgMUjPu4Mean it looks in the video like for the old style hanger (bolt with left thread from outside) you use the UDH interface on the frame.
And for a derailleur with a fullmount you also use the UDH interface on the frame?

Hi, I'm new around here, but I've been stalking this topic for some time now. So, I decided to register and post, since I'm 90% set on buying one of these frames...   

My plan is to swap the frame from my actual gravel bike (2023 Orbea Terra) for this one, but there are some questions I'm looking into, which I kindly ask if some of you can help me with...

So, my actual gravel bike, as stated, is an Orbea Terra from 2023 with carbon frame (M size), with 2x Shimano GRX mechanical transmission and 40mm Caracal Race tires. From the pictures of this LCR018-D frame, I see mounting hardware and holes on the frame that allow the use of my actual 2x mechanical transmission, right?

Another big question is about the tire clearance, as for my gravel riding, the Caracal Race tires in 40mm are a must. I know this frame is rated for 38c tires, but the pictures of the Eurobike'25 build show it has Wolfpack Gravel Superspeed TLR 40-622 tires mounted. There seems to be some clearance left on the frame and fork, and according to BRR, although they have the same rated size as the Caracal Race TLR 40, these tires are actually 2mm thinner after install (using the same control rim and tire pressure, BRR states de Superspeed is 38,3mm wide and the Cararal 40,3mm wide). Is it safe to assume the 38c tire clearance is conservative, as with other frame manifacturers, and this frame will take the Caracal Race TLR 40 which has a real 40mm semi-slick profile?

Regarding that Eurobike'25 build, the frames on the Google Photos link and catalog, they all seem to be from the same frame size. Do you now which size it is?

Thanks.

Yes you can mount a front derailleur on the frame. And the max. chainring clearance is  55-42T, quote Wendy.

You can check the first few posts here, the 52cm frame is ready for production after testing (something like that) and the other sizes will come later this year.
And i think the Eurobike one was also a 52cm size.
As long as nobody really have the frame you have to wait to check if there is room for some 40mm tires or you can ask for pictures directly from LC.

[GammaDriver]

Hi all, new poster here.  Not a new rider, but I never feel as if the geometry specs tell me enough. Perhaps you guys can help me out with geometry and sizing for the LCR018-D endurance geometry frame?

I'm 5'10" (177cm) and have about a 31-inch (probably 78.5 to 79.5cm) inseam.  I feel like I may be looking at the size 54 for the LCR018, but am not sure.  If it helps, I just stood over, and rode, a 2025 Trek Domane in size 56 and that fit me well.  The size 54 Domane was too cramped to ride.  I own a size 56 Diverge that is both comfortable and, at the same time, a bit of a stretch where it would have been nice to have a 1cm or 2cm shorter reach.  Still, I can go all day on that Diverge, so I can make it work.

Any ideas or suggestions?  I realize that I should get a bike fit, but I'm nowhere near a good bike fitter.

Thank you!

[neobiker]

Hi all, new poster here.  Not a new rider, but I never feel as if the geometry specs tell me enough. Perhaps you guys can help me out with geometry and sizing for the LCR018-D endurance geometry frame?

I'm 5'10" (177cm) and have about a 31-inch (probably 78.5 to 79.5cm) inseam.  I feel like I may be looking at the size 54 for the LCR018, but am not sure.  If it helps, I just stood over, and rode, a 2025 Trek Domane in size 56 and that fit me well.  The size 54 Domane was too cramped to ride.  I own a size 56 Diverge that is both comfortable and, at the same time, a bit of a stretch where it would have been nice to have a 1cm or 2cm shorter reach.  Still, I can go all day on that Diverge, so I can make it work.

Any ideas or suggestions?  I realize that I should get a bike fit, but I'm nowhere near a good bike fitter.

Thank you!

If you want to play it safe, I would take the 54cm and have buy multiple stems [their handlebar is super compact (with really short reach)]. The best would be to match the diverge reach, minus 1/2cm either on the stem or on the frame.

[GammaDriver]

... [their handlebar is super compact (with really short reach)]...

That's a great point.  I wonder if the entire design of the frame and fork are made with that integrated handlebar in mind, and if I should take that into account and perhaps step it up to the size 56 since the integrated stem/handlebar will make it seem shorter.

[Flups]

I ordered mine yesterday in carbon raw matte.
I'm 177cm (82cm inseam) and went for size 52, as recommended by Jim Lee/Lightcarbon. Compared the geometry with many other (endurance) bikes and this size should be in line with most of the brands size recommendations. Went for 380/110 handlebars, due to the short reach and the 0 offset seatpost. Currently I ride a Giant TCR (size M; definately less relaxed geometry) and a Yishun R1018 in size 53.

Jim responded to questions without significant delay and was very helpful. If delivery and build process will be as smoth, as the the ordeing process, I would be very satisfied.

I will share some updates, once I received the frameset.

[oxidizer]

Is it just me, or are the paint options somewhat expensive? How much heavier is a nice paint compared to the UD matt finish? 

Also would you go for M(540) or L(560)? I'm 182 cm and 87.5 cm inseam. Atm I'm riding my first road bike with the T-T of 555 and stack of 836 mm -> and I feel somewhat stretched out, not being able to ride in aero position for too long.

[GammaDriver]

I ordered mine yesterday in carbon raw matte.
I'm 177cm (82cm inseam) and went for size 52, as recommended by Jim Lee/Lightcarbon. Compared the geometry with many other (endurance) bikes and this size should be in line with most of the brands size recommendations. Went for 380/110 handlebars, due to the short reach and the 0 offset seatpost. Currently I ride a Giant TCR (size M; definately less relaxed geometry) and a Yishun R1018 in size 53.

Jim responded to questions without significant delay and was very helpful. If delivery and build process will be as smoth, as the the ordeing process, I would be very satisfied.

I will share some updates, once I received the frameset.

Please do share as I am surprised that the 52 would work for a 177cm tall rider - but I have never been one to fully understand the geometry measurement tables for any bikes and how they would apply to me. 

[neobiker]

I am also surprised: I am 178cm and 83 inseam, and went for 54. The 54 match the stack/reach/top tube of the 54cm  from BMC and the S from Endurace from Canyon. 

Afterwards I went with a 380/100 stem and will slam my stem

[Rolle2k]

Agreed everything is different. But im also 177cm with 82cm inseam. I'm not most flexible, but would choose 54cm with 90/380 or 80/380 handlebars.

[Lero970]

Is it just me, or are the paint options somewhat expensive? How much heavier is a nice paint compared to the UD matt finish? 

Also would you go for M(540) or L(560)? I'm 182 cm and 87.5 cm inseam. Atm I'm riding my first road bike with the T-T of 555 and stack of 836 mm -> and I feel somewhat stretched out, not being able to ride in aero position for too long.

II’m 184cm tall and have an 87.5cm inseam. I wanted to go for the 560 version because I compared the geometry with my current Airwolf YFR 066, which has almost the same geometry in the 540 version. It has a slightly lower stack, but my bike fitter said it’s the perfect size and wouldn’t go any smaller. That makes sense to me.

[POTOOOOOOOO]

As we’re talking fit, this goes to show how stupid the industry using your hight to judge frame size is.
I’m 178 with 86inside leg and would absolutely go for 52 as a 54 has a higher stack plus the bars are 8mm rise.

Leg- arm- torso measurements are critical, not overall hight.

After multiple fits over 15 years, I’ve never been told a Cervelo 51 - small is too small. I even have the same frame in a 51 and 54 just to compare.

If you’re unsure, get a bike fit. Everyone is different.

[Flups]

Please do share as I am surprised that the 52 would work for a 177cm tall rider - but I have never been one to fully understand the geometry measurement tables for any bikes and how they would apply to me.

Indeed I always tend to run the slightly smaller frame, but finding the right geometry is a very personal thing. And yes, I'm quite flexible...
Some background why I have chosen this size, maybe this helps others with the decision.

Actually the LCR-018 size 52 is closer to many other brands 54 size.
For 1,77cm; 83 inseam Giant recommends size M and Canyon recommends size S. I'm on the upper limit of Canyon's specification (1,71-1,78cm) and in the middle of Giants specification (1,71-1,81cm)

Including the geometry of the handlebars, the LCR018 size 52 is close to Giants Defy size M.
LCR018: Reach 75mm; 8mm rise; stem -7°
Giant: Reach 72mm; stem 100mm,-10°
Canyon Endurace: Reach 74 ; Stem 90mm -xx°


The only unknown for me is the influence of the LCR's 0 setback seatpost.