Author Topic: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset  (Read 171031 times)

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #120 on: September 16, 2025, 07:33:08 AM »
If you mount the rotor correctly flat, then no issue.

On current Gran Turismo frameset, we will remove all decals except the XMCS or CARBON SPEED on downtube for now. After we get our US trademark approved, we will figure out more western design.

We are designing 2026 road racing frameset as well, which would be released in April 2026 I think.


That's good to hear!

Jonnan_NOR

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #121 on: September 16, 2025, 08:38:48 AM »
If you mount the rotor correctly flat, then no issue.

On current Gran Turismo frameset, we will remove all decals except the XMCS or CARBON SPEED on downtube for now. After we get our US trademark approved, we will figure out more western design.

We are designing 2026 road racing frameset as well, which would be released in April 2026 I think.

I honestly dont dislike the XMCS branding on the downtube if it looked like the one bsharp77 posted.
Else I would prefer a matte black no decal bike and do the paint at a later time.

bsharp77

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #122 on: September 16, 2025, 08:41:59 AM »
I honestly dont dislike the XMCS branding on the downtube if it looked like the one bsharp77 posted.
Else I would prefer a matte black no decal bike and do the paint at a later time.

Just to note I mocked this up to see what it would look like and maybe help some potential buyers visualise what had been asked for a couple of times through the thread.
I personally think the adjusted main logo looks great and should be easy for Peter and his team to replicate should anyone wish to have it.


Rebel_Yell

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #124 on: September 16, 2025, 01:20:07 PM »
Just to note I mocked this up to see what it would look like and maybe help some potential buyers visualise what had been asked for a couple of times through the thread.
I personally think the adjusted main logo looks great and should be easy for Peter and his team to replicate should anyone wish to have it.

Where is your mock up?  I must have missed it?

BeR

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #125 on: September 16, 2025, 01:30:43 PM »
Hambini Reaming Inbound Potentially or had Peter sent him a factory special frame 😉 😆
https://youtube.com/shorts/zt2oReDaya4?si=yQCQfKWRMZWN5HcS

Hambini says that it is the futur Winspace. I hope not 😂😂😂.

bsharp77

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #126 on: September 16, 2025, 01:58:47 PM »


This is a photo of Dewa6975’s frame that I downloaded and adapted the logo on to make it look thicker and in a mirror silver finish to try and help some users visualise what could be done quite easily to make the frame look a lot better (to my eye anyway).

Rebel_Yell

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #127 on: September 16, 2025, 02:06:49 PM »


This is a photo of Dewa6975’s frame that I downloaded and adapted the logo on to make it look thicker and in a mirror silver finish to try and help some users visualise what could be done quite easily to make the frame look a lot better (to my eye anyway).

Thanks.  So good is didn’t know it wasn’t really like that.

Sander2177

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #128 on: September 16, 2025, 02:14:33 PM »
I’m waiting for the racing farne there developing.
Also those decals and mock ups above look much better might be a good shout to maybe lean the XMCS more to the right

PeterXu

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #129 on: September 16, 2025, 07:36:31 PM »
Hambini Reaming Inbound Potentially or had Peter sent him a factory special frame 😉 😆
https://youtube.com/shorts/zt2oReDaya4?si=yQCQfKWRMZWN5HcS
Any company who sends him or any other youtuber special items must be stupid, why? For more after sales warranty issues? So, no need to do that, always randomly to pick up any items before shipping, like the wheels I sent to Patrick last year, if I sent him special pair wheels at that time, maybe now we got many after sales problems to take care,  we are not that intentional and not that silly.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2025, 03:25:52 AM by PeterXu »
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PeterXu

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #130 on: September 16, 2025, 07:38:45 PM »
Hambini says that it is the futur Winspace. I hope not 😂😂😂.
Of course not, we care more about the quality and service, not professional on marketing, and my business rules are totally different from them.
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Sander2177

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #131 on: September 16, 2025, 11:44:00 PM »
Any company who sends him or any other youtuber special items must be stupid, why? For more after sales warranty issues? So, no need to do that, always randomly to pick up any items before shipping, like the wheels I sent to Patrick last year, if I sent him special pair wheels at that time, maybe now we got many after sales problems to take care,  we aren't not that intentional and not that silly.

Not meaning to cause offence peter it’s a joke
British sense of humor!

voidptr

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #132 on: September 23, 2025, 05:04:05 AM »
I've finally managed to put in some decent mileage over the past few weeks, so I'm able to write a short review of the bike.
This is the third bike I've built this year, so I'll mainly be comparing it with my other builds and focusing on geometry details.

I had my eye on this frameset even before EuroBike, but initially crossed it off my list after running some calculations based on the geometry.
However, after seeing it in person and with Peter offering me a generous discount, I couldn't resist and took the frame home.

Fun fact: I even got caught in the act in this YouTube video (https://youtu.be/4aRrWVxKaZ8?t=268) by forum member zealot128 at the XMCS booth.
Meeting everyone was a fun experience, and I definitely recommend visiting EuroBike.

With every new bike, I try to learn a bit more about bike geometry in my quest for the perfect frame.
This year, I've been mainly riding the Factor Ostro V2 in size 58, which has the same wheelbase length but a very different composition - making comparisons particularly interesting.
The standout feature of the GT is its massive 422mm chainstay length. For context, the Ostro's chainstays are 14mm shorter. This gives the GT incredible stability when descending or riding over 60 km/h.
On paper, you might expect this to compromise agility, but in reality, it's still very flickable and corners exceptionally well.
I would even argue that it feels more playful than the Ostro. However, part of that might be due to running the GT slammed with a stack about 2cm lower than the Ostro.

Climbing and going out of the saddle feel great as well. On some setups, I sometimes get out of sync when going out of the saddle, but that never happened with the GT.
It feels intuitive and responds exactly as expected. As for stiffness and comfort, I honestly can't tell much difference compared to the Ostro. Nothing stands out in either direction.

On the downside, the long chainstay doesn't really improve rear tire clearance, which is limited to around 35mm if you want 4mm of clearance on each side.
The tire makes contact with the chainstay before the seatpost, so there's always going to be a noticeable gap.
Another downside is the relatively short front end, causing toe overlap with 30C+ tires for me. It's not a huge issue, but it's something to keep in mind.

The biggest personal issue for me is the slack seat tube angle (73°) combined with the setback seatpost. Even with the shortest saddle, I can't move my position as far forward as I'd like.
This was initially why I crossed the bike off my list. I tried convincing myself it wouldn't be a big deal, but I remain very aware of it on every ride.
This is the main reason I probably won't be happy riding this bike long-term and am already considering replacing it with the Intropy Speedster.
So for anyone in Germany interested, this one may be up for sale at a heavily discounted price once I move the parts to the new build - so HMU.

My build includes a mix of high-end and premium Chinese components:
- SRAM E1 Red/Force XPLR 1x13
- XMCS 40/50 Wheelset with 30C GP5K STR (32C in future)
- Black Inc Aero 120/380 Cockpit (custom 3D-printed bearing cover)
- Leese 165mm crank with ArcRayo PM and 52T PassQuest chainring
- Kinan Kore Ti Pedals
- Arundle Mandible bottle cages (clones)
- SLT-style headset bearings from kugellager-shop
- Custom Garmin Varia 3D-printed frame mount
- Rainbow Ti-bolts throughout

As mentioned in previous posts, I found some "Gran Tourismo" stickers on AliExpress and also added a random Black Inc decal on the headtube that I had lying around from a wheelset to make the bike look less empty.

Bonus Fact: the exact same build of the Ostro would have been 93g lighter on the GT.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2025, 06:03:42 AM by voidptr »

Samuel BMR

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #133 on: September 23, 2025, 05:43:32 AM »
Hi there Pete!

I cannot find a link to have a look at the GT frame with specs etc

Could you provide one please? So many pages in this thread already!

Love my 65mm Wide T1100 wheelset by the way!!



If you mount the rotor correctly flat, then no issue.

On current Gran Turismo frameset, we will remove all decals except the XMCS or CARBON SPEED on downtube for now. After we get our US trademark approved, we will figure out more western design.

We are designing 2026 road racing frameset as well, which would be released in April 2026 I think.
I have & ride 23 bikes
Also I ride a lot, like a lot lot

PeterXu

Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
« Reply #134 on: September 23, 2025, 06:04:34 AM »
Hi there Pete!

I cannot find a link to have a look at the GT frame with specs etc

Could you provide one please? So many pages in this thread already!

Love my 65mm Wide T1100 wheelset by the way!!

Thanks a lot. You can see the geometry details here:
https://www.instagram.com/share/p/_mBQ4qyWQ
The weight is for the size unpaited though, since we upgrade the layups.

I've finally managed to put in some decent mileage over the past few weeks, so I'm able to write a short review of the bike.
This is the third bike I've built this year, so I'll mainly be comparing it with my other builds and focusing on geometry details.

I had my eye on this frameset even before EuroBike, but initially crossed it off my list after running some calculations based on the geometry.
However, after seeing it in person and with Peter offering me a generous discount, I couldn't resist and took the frame home.

Fun fact: I even got caught in the act in this YouTube video (https://youtu.be/4aRrWVxKaZ8?t=268) by forum member zealot128 at the XMCS booth.
Meeting everyone was a fun experience, and I definitely recommend visiting EuroBike.

With every new bike, I try to learn a bit more about bike geometry in my quest for the perfect frame.
This year, I've been mainly riding the Factor Ostro V2 in size 58, which has the same wheelbase length but a very different composition - making comparisons particularly interesting.
The standout feature of the GT is its massive 422mm chainstay length. For context, the Ostro's chainstays are 14mm shorter. This gives the GT incredible stability when descending or riding over 60 km/h.
On paper, you might expect this to compromise agility, but in reality, it's still very flickable and corners exceptionally well.
I would even argue that it feels more playful than the Ostro. However, part of that might be due to running the GT slammed with a stack about 2cm lower than the Ostro.

Climbing and going out of the saddle feel great as well. On some setups, I sometimes get out of sync when going out of the saddle, but that never happened with the GT.
It feels intuitive and responds exactly as expected. As for stiffness and comfort, I honestly can't tell much difference compared to the Ostro. Nothing stands out in either direction.

On the downside, the long chainstay doesn't really improve rear tire clearance, which is limited to around 35mm if you want 4mm of clearance on each side.
The tire makes contact with the chainstay before the seatpost, so there's always going to be a noticeable gap.
Another downside is the wheelbase composition: the front end is relatively short, causing toe overlap with 30C+ tires for me. It's not a huge issue, but it's something to keep in mind.

The biggest personal issue for me is the slack seat tube angle (73°) combined with the setback seatpost. Even with the shortest saddle, I can't move my position as far forward as I'd like.
This was initially why I crossed the bike off my list. I tried convincing myself it wouldn't be a big deal, but I remain very aware of it on every ride.
This is the main reason I probably won't be happy riding this bike long-term and am already considering replacing it with the Intropy Speedster.
So for anyone in Germany interested, this one may be up for sale at a heavily discounted price once I move the parts to the new build - so HMU.

My build includes a mix of high-end and premium Chinese components:
- SRAM E1 Red/Force XPLR 1x13
- XMCS 40/50 Wheelset with 30C GP5K STR (32C in future)
- Black Inc Aero 120/380 Cockpit (custom 3D-printed bearing cover)
- Leese 165mm crank with ArcRayo PM and 52T PassQuest chainring
- Kinan Kore Ti Pedals
- Arundle Mandible bottle cages (clones)
- SLT-style headset bearings from kugellager-shop
- Custom Garmin Varia 3D-printed frame mount
- Rainbow Ti-bolts throughout

As mentioned in previous posts, I found some "Gran Tourismo" stickers on AliExpress and also added a random Black Inc decal on the headtube that I had lying around from a wheelset to make the bike look less empty.

Bonus Fact: the exact same build of the Ostro would have been 93g lighter on the GT.

Thanks for your review, as I said, your frame is the first Gen, and sorry about the downside feeling, we has improved some details, and we are going to revise current seat post to 15mm offset two points clamps design. And we will add an 0 offset seat post with two clamps design as well.
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