Author Topic: Zen Carbon Wheels Xiamen  (Read 277921 times)

Sander2177

Zen Carbon Wheels Xiamen
« on: June 11, 2025, 10:39:44 AM »
Hi everyone,

Wanted to share a bit about a new wheelset I’m having custom built through a lesser-known OEM in Xiamen called Zen Carbon. Thought it might be of interest to anyone exploring beyond the usual big players like XM Carbon Speed or Elite.

Background

I’ve been working with a few OEMs this year. Back in April, I ordered a 60/65mm carbon spoke set from DFS Carbon, which came in at 1230g and has performed really well so far.

I’ve also got a set of 50/60mm carbon spoke wheels on order from XM Carbon Speed — very popular on here and on Weight Weenies. The rims are still in manufacture, but I’ve been told they should be completed this week.

This new set is coming from Zen Carbon, which doesn’t really have any online presence. It’s a small company based in Xiamen, run by Zara and her father.

Why Zen Carbon?

I’ve known Zara for a few years — she was my contact back when I was buying Winspace products (frames, parts, etc.) around the time when Jo Whittingham (of Panda Podium / China Cycling YouTube) was still there. I’ve had access to dealer pricing from Winspace, and Zara was always super helpful. She moved on to Zen Carbon a couple of years ago, and while I hadn’t ordered anything from her since then, I thought I’d give them a try for this build.

Wheelset Specs
   •   Rim depth: 40mm front / 45mm rear
   •   Rim width: 31mm external / 25mm internal
   •   Rim weights:
   •   Spokes: Carbon, 2.1g per spoke
   •   Hub: Zen SL 20H front & rear – 226g total

Pricing
   
   •   Total: $866 USD / ~£670 GBP to the UK

Would love to hear if anyone else has experience with Zen Carbon or the H-Works hubs — or thoughts on using mixed-weight rims like.

25mm rims sizes pictures obviously they offer more rim types


gbrnole

thanks for that. glad you have this forum to post in to save the snarky responses in WW.


Sander2177

Appreciate the feedback, Serge — but this definitely isn’t a vanity project.

The DFS wheels I previously bought were a bit of a punt — small brand, relatively unknown — but with a 90kg rider limit, they were within spec for me. I took the chance, and they’ve been excellent so far. At 1230g for a deep aero set, they’ve really delivered.

The 50/60mm wheels I ordered from XMC (via XMCarbonSpeed) are still on the way — haven’t received them yet. Their lead time’s a bit longer, but hopefully I’ll get a message next week saying they’re ready to ship. I went for them as a solid all-rounder to replace my older Craft Racing Works wheels. I sold those because the rear had a 21mm internal width, which wasn’t ideal. The XMCs have a 24mm internal front and rear, which better suits modern tyres, and they’ve built up a strong rep for quality and performance. Peter from XMC estimated the weight at around 1200g, which is impressive for a wheelset in that depth range.

The 40–45mm wheels I’m building now are more of a climbing-focused setup. I considered going shallower and even lighter, but for me, performance always comes first — the gear has to work. I didn’t just go for the lightest version of these rims either. I wanted a more balanced setup, particularly with durability in mind. Adding 40g to both front and rear rims raises the system weight limit to 110kg, which is the same approach Light Bicycle takes — slightly heavier at the rear for strength, lighter at the front. In my case, I opted for the reinforced rear only, since that’s where most of the load goes. At 77kg rider weight and with the SL8 at 6kg plus about 2kg of bottles and tools, I’m still well within spec.

I also put up a thread on Weight Weenies about lightweight Chinese hubs to see what’s out there that could genuinely compete with Western brands like Tune, Extralite, Tactic, etc., without spending €1,000+.

All in all, I spent a good couple of weeks researching before committing. Light Bicycle was a solid option — their 45/45mm wheelset is advertised at 1063g with a 110kg weight limit and comes in around $1,500 USD delivered. In comparison, these came in at $866 USD delivered (about £670), including hubs, which I felt was excellent value for the spec. Now it’s just a case of getting them built and seeing how they ride.

Sander2177

You've clearly done your homework. When i say vanity it's not directed at you, it's a general idea. Virtually everyone will be better served with a slightly heavier, more reliable / durable hub than the opposite.
You specifically enjoy geeking out on very exotic gear, so it makes sense you'd go for such kit.
But durability, failure rates, tolerances going out of spec, aren't think that are well understood and tracked, so generally, i'll go for proven hubs and spokes, because i'm playing a probability game, and would rather lower the chances my wheels start acting up. All the more if hitting potholes and the likes. Or if you go do a cycling block somewhere, or a bike packing trip, and start worrying if your wheels are going to cause you issues.
There's untold value in stuff that just works, that's all i'm saying.

Thanks, Serge—I really respect what you have to say, and I totally get the value of proven, reliable gear, especially when durability and failure rates matter so much out on the road or trails.

That said, as I mentioned, I could have gone for the lightest rim option, but I chose to increase the rear rim weight by about 40g to raise the rider weight limit where it actually matters—on the rear. It’s a practical trade-off for strength and durability.

I also really appreciate that Zen is taking the time to carefully consider what I want and is actively engaging with their engineer to get the technical details right. For example, they even asked me where I wanted the drain hole—normally it’s placed on the non-drive side above the valve hole because they’ve determined that’s the best spot, so I went with it. The engineer confirmed this is a 1:1 spoke pattern hub with no dish, and to improve lateral stiffness, the rear rim will be asymmetric. Even though the hub is symmetric, the asymmetric rim helps balance spoke tension and overall wheel performance.

I’m not an expert by any means, and I’m certainly getting an education through this process—listening closely to everyone’s thoughts and opinions.

Remember, every tried-and-tested design had to start somewhere, so in a way, I’m a guinea pig here—but I’m definitely not a risk taker. Obviously, I don’t want anything to go wrong either, so I’ve looked at this thoroughly, and the risk I’ve taken with this setup works for me. That’s why I’ve done my homework thoroughly on this wheelset in particular.

Innovations like this often start with thoughtful engineering and testing—just like the HX hub did. So while I respect the importance of tried-and-true setups, I’m also interested in well-designed advances that push things forward without compromising reliability.

cramy

Thanks Stephen for this new discovery.

Is there any website we can check the wheels? Or a way to contact Zara?

SillyMochi

Rim Weight vs Rider Limit

Zen Carbon confirmed that rim weight directly affects rider weight limits:
   •   320g / 340g rims = 90kg max rider weight
   •   Add 40g per rim and that increases to 110kg max rider weight

Do they actually mean rider weight or system weight? Usually, I see system weight (as in rider + cloths + bike + gear/tools) mentioned as the weight limit. Just checking to avoid misunderstanding.
Slow on the climb. And everywhere else.

Sander2177

Cramy
Haha yeah, I’ve actually been dealing with Zara through Instagram DMs

Here’s their Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zencarbonbike?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
Website: https://zencarbonbike.com/ — but honestly, it’s not great and definitely not up to date. They focus more on OEM, so a lot of the rims and options (like mine) aren’t even listed.

If you want to reach out, best way is to message directly or useinfo@zencarbonbike.com
WhatsApp: +86 15160726618 / +86 13218277787

Although I’ve posted a thread, I wouldn’t call it a recommendation just yet, since I haven’t actually received the wheels. For now, I’m just highlighting the process and how it’s been going.
So far, I’d say the value is great and the responsiveness to messages and questions has been really impressive. I get the feeling Zara’s handling a lot of enquiries, but even with the 7-hour time difference (I’m in the UK), she’s been replying late in the evening on China time, which I really appreciate

I’ve also let her know that I’m posting about the process of ordering these wheels on both Chinertown and the WW forum, just to keep things transparent.

Sander2177

Do they actually mean rider weight or system weight? Usually, I see system weight (as in rider + cloths + bike + gear/tools) mentioned as the weight limit. Just checking to avoid misunderstanding.

Apologies have updated that to system limit

joeynailz

I also recently ordered a set from Zen. Went with a 50/60 combo, have attached full specs. Looking forward to getting them shipped to me here in the Midwest US soon and putting some GP 5000’s and many miles on them.

Sander2177

I also recently ordered a set from Zen. Went with a 50/60 combo, have attached full specs. Looking forward to getting them shipped to me here in the Midwest US soon and putting some GP 5000’s and many miles on them.

Hey Joeynailz,

Good to hear! How was your buying experience — did you deal with Zara?

Nice spec! That’s a really light setup too.

How much did the wheels cost, and when are you expecting to receive them?

SillyMochi

That's some bling on the freehub! Too bad you will never actually see it once the bike is built ...
Slow on the climb. And everywhere else.

DavidG

I also recently ordered a set from Zen. Went with a 50/60 combo, have attached full specs. Looking forward to getting them shipped to me here in the Midwest US soon and putting some GP 5000’s and many miles on them.
How much for that built if you dont mind me asking?

glepore

Interested. Have a 1300g set of 50/65 xm's that I'm happy with, but wouldn't mind a set of climbing wheels for mountain days.

joeynailz

How much for that built if you dont mind me asking?

Yeah no problem. Total was around $750 USD, shipping included.

And did most of my communication with them over the IG page. Went back and forth over specs and finishes for a couple weeks before getting an email invoice and paying with PayPal.
Hoping to receive the wheels in 2 weeks or so.