IP-057 Full Build - Need Advice

[Sitar_Ned]

I actually don't think it's used - just pre-cut. Most likely came off of a new bike. Oem part like Chain Reaction sells a lot of.

[Carbon_Dude]

New take off parts are usually really good deals.  Like you said, not new but not used either.  My DT Swiss wheels were like that from eBay, $1200 set of wheels for $400, my best deal from eBay so far.

[turboenterprise]

Ok here is a build list: Thoughts / What's missing? any adaptors? cables?

P-057 in 15.5'' with BSA in UD matt for 142x12 -  400 USD/piece
Fitting NECO headset - 15 USD/ set
Fitting seat post IP-SP7 in UD matt - 40 USD/piece
Carbon saddle IP-SD1  in UD matt - 55 USD/piece
700mm Riser Carbon handlebar IP-B05 in UD matt-  38/USD
Seatpost clamp - $0
Fitting front 15mm axle and rear 12mm axles are 35 USD/pair
Extra rear derailleur hanger right part - 15 USD/piece
N-SS IP-HR930C 30mm hookless wheels - 585 USD/pair
N-SS: Novatec D771/D772 hubs for 100x15/142x12 for SRAM XX1, Sapim CX-Delta Spokes, Sapim nipples
or DTSwiss 350 ???USD/pair
Maxxis Ignitor - $47/USD a piece
RockShox Reba RLT Solo Air 100 29in Suspension Fork 15mm Maxle Remote Tapered -$4xx/USD
XX1,175m,GXP,32T - 9xx/USD
Ergon Race Grips - $0- take off other
SHIMANO DEORE XT BL-M785 BR-M785 Hydraulic Disc Brakeset 850/1400 160mm -$200/USD
SHIMANO XT 160mm Centerlock Rotor SM-RT81-S Ice Technologies Disc Brake Bike - $70/USD pair
Eggbeater 3 Pedals - $72.50 USD

[Carbon_Dude]

That's pretty close to my setup.

A few bits of feedback:

1)  The front axle will come with the fork, so unless you want a spare or the two to match, you don't need to order one from XMIplay.
2)  I purchased a flat bar to go with my riser bar as long as I was at it, no extra shipping cost and it gave me two options for the bars.  However, I ended up liking the riser bars more than the flat bars anyway.  Good choice on the 700mm width, I did 680mm and I'm starting to think maybe a little wider would be good.
3)  You didn't list a stem.
4)  You didn't say if the cranks you are getting will be Q156 or Q168.  Personally, I like the extra chain stay clearance the Q168 cranks provide.
5)  Peter can also have the wheels built with BiTex hubs, I did the BX401R hubs.  Not sure if they are any better than the Novatec but they take a straight pull spoke which I like.  A little extra cost too.  Ultimately, I like the DT Swiss hubs the best though.
6)  Cables and housing will come with the XX1 shifter.
7)  I did a 180mm Fr, 160mm RR on the Shimano Icetech rotors, if you do a 180mm front rotor you need a spacer adapter for mounting the brake caliper.

Do you have all the tools you will need?

[turboenterprise]

Thanks Carbon_Dude
3.Is there a conservative way to know what length stem you need? I run (1-1/8 x 0-Degree x 70mm, Black) with a riser bar right now on another bike.
4. Yes the Q168 I forgot to type it
7. Whats the part number/item number for the 180mm spacer?

I have a torque wrench, carbon paste, grease, and repair stand.  Going to have to do the homemade press for headset. Not sure what else. Any tips or links?

[Rigid_Bloke]

Look like it will be a very nice build to me.

Stem length is just one of those things that you can guess at all you want but it eventually comes down to experience and trial and error. In other words, you may not get it right the first time so don't buy the world's most expensive stem. The option that SN linked to earlier in this thread truly is a steal if you need a 100mm stem.

[Sitar_Ned]

Like Rigid Bloke said, it can be hard to guesstimate - especially if you're building your first bike in a while in don't have a preference that you can use from your old bike., but since you do have another bike you should be able to use it to help you roughly estimate how long of a stem you might need.

When I was trying to pick the best stem length and bar combo for my frame (057) I looked up the measurements from my old 2004ish Cannondale Rush.. I remembered liking the roomy cockpit and I remembered it had a 100mm stem.. the 057 frame was slightly longer in the top tube and I was using wider bars.. So I went with a shorter 75mm stem.

[Carbon_Dude]

Thanks Carbon_Dude
3.Is there a conservative way to know what length stem you need? I run (1-1/8 x 0-Degree x 70mm, Black) with a riser bar right now on another bike. I compared the ETT (Effective Top Tube) on a bike I had to the IP-057 and made a decision on stem length from there.
4. Yes the Q168 I forgot to type it.  Good, that's what I would recommend.
7. Whats the part number/item number for the 180mm spacer?   Shimano SM-MA-F180P/P2

I have a torque wrench, carbon paste, grease, and repair stand.  Going to have to do the homemade press for headset. Not sure what else. Any tips or links?

See above response in BOLD.

For the headset you don't need a press, the bearings drop into the frame.  You will need to set the crown race on your fork, that is easiest with a piece of PVC pipe from Home Depot, but if also used something as simply as a block of wood to tap it down, all depends on how tight the crown race is to the fork.  While you are at it, buy a $10 pipe cutter from Home Depot to cut your fork steer tube.  Tip:  Don't put the crown race on upside-down.

[turboenterprise]

Anyone else looking for forks.  It has been slim pickens for Reba RL's for sale.  There is a lot more Fox' CTD for sale.  Reba's are bit harder to find in 15mm axles too.  This one used SID caught my eye though but not tapered. http://www.ebay.com/itm/100mm-29-Sid-Rock-Shox-15mm-thru-axel-/151313722718?pt=US_Forks&hash=item233b002d5e

[Sitar_Ned]

Hey Turbo, have you considered the X-fusion line of forks?

I myself had never heard of them until someone posted about them here: http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,38.0.html

but after looking at reviews and price I would certainly consider it, and actually may consider it for my full squish build I keep dreaming of.

[turboenterprise]

These x-fusion's look nice.  Im checking these out for sure.  Thanks

[Carbon_Dude]

I would try to stick with a tapered steer tube.  Don't compromise on your fork, get what you want.  Not sure what your budget is but here are a few around the $500 mark.

Pricepoint has a Marzocchi Corsa SL at a decent price of $379.
Or a Manitou Tower Pro 80mm QR15 $399. (I think this is the one SN bought).
Or a Marzocchi 320LR 100mm QR15 for $468.

Jenson USA
Marzocchi 320 LR 29" QR15 Fork 2014 for $422.10
Fox 32 Float 100 CTD Evo 29" Fork 2015 $545 (best price on a Fox Fork)

Universal Cycles
Fox 32 Float 100 Terralogic FIT Forks Tapered QR15 2012 $499 (decent price on new old stock)
Fox 32 Float 100 O/C CTD 29" Forks Tapered QR15  2015 $545

ProBike Supply
2015 Fox 32 FLOAT 100 CTD O/C 29" 15QR 1.5 Tapered Steerer Evolution Fork $545 (This is the fork I have but I have the remote lockout)
2015 Fox 32 FLOAT 120 CTD O/C 29" 15QR 1.5 Tapered Steerer Evolution Fork $545 (If you want 120mm of travel)

Wiggle (free shipping from the UK)
RockShox Reba RL 29er Solo Air Tapered Suspension Fork $514.27
RockShox Reba RL 29er Solo Air Tapered With PushLoc Remote Fork $515 (100mm is out of stock but they have the 120mm)
X-Fusion Slide RL2 120mm Tapered QR15 29er Fork $449

[Sitar_Ned]

Or a Manitou Tower Pro 80mm QR15 $399. (I think this is the one SN bought).

Yes, but for $250

[Andy]

SN just curious.  Are you getting ALOT of pedal strikes with an 80 mm fork?  Does the steering feel too nervous and twitchy??  Thanks.

[Sitar_Ned]

SN just curious.  Are you getting ALOT of pedal strikes with an 80 mm fork?  Does the steering feel too nervous and twitchy??  Thanks.

Hardly any pedal strikes at all so far, and the steering feels fine to me not twitchy whatsoever.

That said.. My trails aren't very technical and are maintained really well.. pedal strikes just aren't that big of an issue for me yet but I will say that the pedals do seem like they are a bit too close to the ground. Not sure what average or normal distance from ground is, and like i said not having pedal strike issues but just looking at the bike the pedals seem low.. Could just be me, I dunno.. What do you guys think?