Eurobike 2025 - starts on Wed. - What are you looking forward to?

[kubackje]

Lol wtf is going on in Germany 💀

[gbrnole]

Lol wtf is going on in Germany 💀

@patliean1 not currently in Germany by any chance are you? 

[Dareios]

Lol wtf is going on in Germany 💀

Probably some organized group stealing fully built bikes, I doubt a single person could carry this one out...

[gbrnole]

there will probably be an Evolve Cima copy available on AliX next week!

[carbonazza]

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Anything missing? What you guys want to see?
I plan to make some photos/videos there, as I got a business ticket from a friend's company.

Thanks for the list!
I'll do a one day jump on Sunday from Brussels, and visit some of them too.

Carbonda is presenting a new gravel frame that looks great: https://afbicycles.com/
And I'll visit Lightbicycle for their new lightweight AIRIA rims.
Nancy from Lightbicycle and Wing from Carbonda will be there, so after about 10 years of working with them, we'll see each other live 

I'll scout for various transmission builders and e-bike components too

[kbernstein]

I expected yet another western show with 0 innovation or new products, with just cool paint jobs and muddy pro bikes but still forced myself to watch all the coverage and a lot of products are actually exciting to me:
-Xcadey hammerhead looking computer
-more usb c powermeters with carbon cranks
-titanium spokes and magnesium rims. skeptical but i want to see more
-tourelly 360° clipless pedals with a lot of adjustment
-hydraulic hose quick links
-cheap lightcarbon gravel frame with all the modern marketing gimmicks
-smart sunglasses
-java j air frame

[estingo]

Those video's coming out are great from the EuroBike 2025 show, saw the one of Hambini, was really impressed with the Gravel model from Seka. But also the Magnesium rims look interesting, like all the stuff that kbernstein said

[zealot128]

Uff that's been a blast!

Just came back in, saw TraceVelo at Lightcarbon, had a chat with him, I guess we will see LCR 018 footage and maybe even a built in the future. 😎
According to LC: the '18 will have a storage compartment if you want it, both can be built. Price including decals/paint shop. Ofc. the gravel frames with suspensions and storage compartments.
Also had a longer talk with PeterXu at their booth - The raw GT frame can be watched there. We also shared contact info
For German readers: Tobi and Richie (former GCN german) were also at the LTWOO booth, so waiting for a video in the future there.

Magene: QED and PES shifters looked great, as well as tons of new bike computers, light, action cam - all work together.
I also got a present because i was the first who completed their challenge from their newsletter
Garciron: Crazy bright lights with lots of battery (Raptor)
Coospo had pedal powermeters which should retail for $200(!) - i asked twice if he meant each or for the pair, but he insisted the pair. But unfortunately, not available for consumers, OEM/Distributors first, the other stuff from them can be bought from Amazon etc.
Nooyah Bike Transport box: Was also mentioned in ths forum; about $600 as i remember correctly for a whole package with lots of additional packaging - for handlebar, wheel etc.. They had 2 boxes, the softsheel should be even cheaper, as the main one is sewed.
Assisting Force: singular Gravel set: Also direct to consumer via website, from $900 for the frame set, up to $1368 for the "SSL" plus handlebar. Also has a storage compartment like LC and a great solution for tools, there has been a lot of stuff hidden there, wait for the video.
Another suprise: Rockbros will open a Flagship Store in Germany, Heidelberg on 1th of July, quite the expansion. Also TONS of stuff, even bikes, kid's bikes, besides the usual bags, glasses, gloves. Ofc their "Road the Sky" premium stuff.
Rhinowalk: Also great top frame solution (for gravel)

So many more thoughts, I am waiting copy over the raw videos, will post a longer video + shorts soonish on my (new) Youtube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeT-9vPBNUNDtiqHi1mQtQ

[Dareios]

Lol, just watched the cyclistshub video and Winspace are presenting yet another new roadbike frame (probably again the same geometry) the SLC 5.0, seems like they skipped 4 and went straight to 5. WTF is going on with them, every few months they throw out a new bike with a similar geometry that is potentially cannibalizing sales of their similar bikes. They seem to have lost the plot.

[kbernstein]

Love this smart trainer rower adapter idea

[frewster]

Zealot128 did you get to talk with Magene regarding their bike computers? I've heard good things about the hardware but horror stories about the software and support for them.

[zealot128]

Zealot128 did you get to talk with Magene regarding their bike computers? I've heard good things about the hardware but horror stories about the software and support for them.

I quickly checked out their computers, very light and have a metallic lockring on the back, touchscreen, climbing stuff. Unfortunately, i cannot say anything about the software quality, and I guess their sales representatives could also only reply in phrases anyways.
I use their Radar and have a heart rate sensor (that seem to have already died after 1y), The Radar works fine so far, but the battery life is not superb.

What kind of horror stories did you hear? They are definitely moving very fast - 2 new groupsets, powermeter, smart trainers, about half a dozens computers..., I have a longer segment in the video I will release later today.
About support: They have no distributor outside China AFAIR, she also said say are ofc looking for distributors, that's also why so many "Coming soon" of stuff already buyable in Chinese domestic markets (btw: got my original Magene radar directly from Joe's Panda shop in Xiamen in person - very hard to come by in Germany esp because of our stupid bike light laws).
Not to whatabout: But on the other hand, which (especially Chinese(!)) cycling brands have a very good software quality? Garmin: should always avoid the first 00's, Wahoo - usually good/great, but the new Ace has also issues? Shimano: WTF is eTube PoS.

IGPSports also had an interesting line-up and Radar btw!

[frewster]

I quickly checked out their computers, very light and have a metallic lockring on the back, touchscreen, climbing stuff. Unfortunately, i cannot say anything about the software quality, and I guess their sales representatives could also only reply in phrases anyways.
I use their Radar and have a heart rate sensor (that seem to have already died after 1y), The Radar works fine so far, but the battery life is not superb.

What kind of horror stories did you hear? They are definitely moving very fast - 2 new groupsets, powermeter, smart trainers, about half a dozens computers..., I have a longer segment in the video I will release later today.
About support: They have no distributor outside China AFAIR, she also said say are ofc looking for distributors, that's also why so many "Coming soon" of stuff already buyable in Chinese domestic markets (btw: got my original Magene radar directly from Joe's Panda shop in Xiamen in person - very hard to come by in Germany esp because of our stupid bike light laws).
Not to whatabout: But on the other hand, which (especially Chinese(!)) cycling brands have a very good software quality? Garmin: should always avoid the first 00's, Wahoo - usually good/great, but the new Ace has also issues? Shimano: WTF is eTube PoS.

IGPSports also had an interesting line-up and Radar btw!

That's a good point about software quality. It does seem to be a thing that many Chinese companies struggle with although they have been improving as of late. My concerns mostly came from this thread https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,5655.msg73414.html#msg73414 here on the forum. I have heard generally good things about Magene otherwise regarding their power meters and other products. The groupset stuff is interesting, and I hope they'll actually be widely available soon.

[kbernstein]

That's a good point about software quality. It does seem to be a thing that many Chinese companies struggle with although they have been improving as of late. My concerns mostly came from this thread https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,5655.msg73414.html#msg73414 here on the forum. I have heard generally good things about Magene otherwise regarding their power meters and other products. The groupset stuff is interesting, and I hope they'll actually be widely available soon.

To their credit, they have definitely gotten better with updates. But compared to IGPSport I'm taking IGPSport any day of the week for the money. It's just not there yet but it might in the future. Climbpro and map layers may be terrible, the app is still shit but it works now. Either way that's the last you're hearing from me on the C606 as I finally found a buyer 
I don't understand the point of the C706 though. It has less bezel, a bell (  ) and that's it? Not addressing anything else?

[radrick_91]

Visited Eurobike today – here are my personal highlights & recommendations if you’re planning to go:

XM CarbonSpeed – Meeting Peter in person
My absolute highlight was meeting Peter. He’s well known here on the forum – and I can confirm he’s just as friendly and knowledgeable in person. I asked him about a thousand questions and he took the time to answer every single one. Thanks, Peter!

XM CarbonSpeed Product Highlights:
Gran Turismo frame (I’ll post separately about it – that thing glows)
New gravel wheelset with titanium spokes – I instantly fell in love
New carbon crankset
Disc wheel for triathletes/time trialists

Definitely check out their booth!

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Other highlights worth checking out:
Magene is showing the TEO carbon crank, compatible with P505 & P515 power meters
Ltwoo & Wheeltop are displaying a TT groupset
LightCarbon has a very nice-looking new frame
Envolve: frame & cockpit look great – had an interesting chat with their engineer, I think we’ll hear more from them in the future
Galfer (not from China, but worth it for the weight weenies): showcasing a new disc brake – light & promising
Zenobicycle: I checked out their quick coupler for hydraulic hoses – clever solution, and I really hope we’ll see it available in Europe soon