I am down to these models now and need to decide.
-ICAN/Triaero A23. This seems a nice frame on paper but no information for other owners. moreover this inconsistent or missing information on the ICAN websites doesn't help to have confidence. Moreover the bike seems to be on the heavy side. It costs less than the A9, which makes me think maybe it is not a step up from it?
-ICAN/Triaero Flyee: I like this one and there is enough feedback from other owners. it seems to be more a climber than an allround but I am ok with it. Geometry seems also good as it has just a little extra stack compare to the other two.
-Speeder SC-R55D: this is a great looking frame and specs are nice. Communication with Justing is very clear and professional. Drawback is that the company seems to be more oriented to OEM business. So not much customization (no big deal for me). But, being not an expert in bike building, I am concerned about the fact that the framekit might not come complete with all the parts (bearings, grommets, UDH etc) or if I have to go and buy them after. Moreover this comes with BB86, which for me might become a problem for me if something doesn't go smooth. Geometry might be a little to aggressive for me.
Besides the details of the single frames, for some reason ICAN did not inspire me confidence. They have 3 different websites. some model are available only via one of the website (for example Flyee). bike descriptions are sometimes not consistent across the websites. I asked from where to order and one person told me it doesn'e matter, one other person (Perry) told me to order only from icancycling.com. All of this is a little puzzling.
On Flyee, bike seems fine, the weight is mentioned with gloss white paint, i.e. bare carbon frame would be ~100 g less. A number of different web sites may be connected with different target audience. Farsports has two websites, on one they have a ton of options where you can customize the wheels for your needs and second with 'ready-to-buy options' which are way more expensive. Same goes for Elite wheels: they have website for Westerners where prices are 30-40% higher than on Ali or Yuanan OEM page.
During my communication with Justin he suggested me to buy BB, stem or full cockpit, seatpost variations and all small parts that comes with the bike. I ended up buying the headset only with front mech hanger, UDH, axles coming as default parts. Additionally, I asked for custom finish (marble glossy carbon finish for frame and fork) and decals. For some people Justin gave an option for custom paint, perhaps it depends on what they have in line for their B2B consumers. I recommend to ask specific questions for what comes with the frame regardless of your order and what can be purchased additionally.
The frame has regular headset and is compatible with any ACR-like system (I have cockpit from The One). UDH comes with the frame and if not, you can purchase UDH separately, as it is universal lol.
Regarding the BB, press fit is usually better than threaded BB if done correctly. Speeder has very good tolerances, so there are no issues with BB here. If you plan to run 24mm axle, BB86 is the best standard out there, for DUB or 30mm axle I'd avoid it. Here we have several threads for lightweight carbon cranks with 24mm axle, you can check them. I have Big Rock cranks with Ti axle and 3 bolt spider interface and my old powermeter, zero issues so far.
Keep in mind that for many bikes with integrated cable routing the stack in Geometry chart is underestimated as it does not takes into account mandatory spacers that has to be installed to guide the cables. Additionally, the more spacers you use, the shorter your actual reach is.
Hope that will help!
