Full-out aero frames with endurance-like geometry

[casper.f]

Hello friends of the forum.

As the title suggest i am looking for a chiner full-out aero frame with endurance-like geometry.
Almost all endurance frames have lightweight tubing (all-round at best).

I am under the impression brands think like this:
Demographic looks for an endurance frame => comfort is needed for this demographic => thinner tubes are more compliant and are better for this demograpic.

But my path on finding the right frame goes like this:
I want an aero frame => can't find one that fits me => searches for endurance frames => no-one seems to make an aero endurance frame => i dont pull the trigger on any frame

The best option I have found so far (for me) is the Lightcarbon LCR018-D.
A fair bit of aero tweaks (with a stack between 390-400 and a stack of 600+)
But its still doesnt have real deep aero shapes.

Anybody that feels the same?
Anyone with suggestion on any aero frames (with a stack between 390-400 and a stack of 600+)?

[zaphodbeeblebrox]

https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4173.msg74298.html#msg74298

Is another other option for aero/endurance. Neat that it was partially sourced from the forum.

[Macedingle]

Stack is easily adjusted with spacers.
Winspace C5 is what you may be looking for

[casper.f]

https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4173.msg74298.html#msg74298

Is another other option for aero/endurance. Neat that it was partially sourced from the forum.

Ive skimmed this topic in the past, but for me, the tubes arent deep enough.

I really like the look of:
-TanTan TT-X65
-Winow WR054
-VB-R-368 AeroTrace

I know I really sound like a picky consumer (bc I am).
I appreciate every piece of feedback/suggestion.

[casper.f]

Stack is easily adjusted with spacers.
Winspace C5 is what you may be looking for

ATM i run 4cm of spacer, i dont like the look but more importantly: the bike handles weirdly and not as intendend.
With a stack of 571mm, the C5 isnt for me.
Seems like a great recommendation for other people.
Thanks for your response

[Yunglord]

ATM i run 4cm of spacer, i dont like the look but more importantly: the bike handles weirdly and not as intendend.
With a stack of 571mm, the C5 isnt for me.
Seems like a great recommendation for other people.
Thanks for your response

Since when spacers affect handling?

I know we are on chinertown but the supersix gen 4 in size 58 might be a fit or the newer synapse.

Good luck on your quest I have a friend in a similar situation and will keep an eye on your search.

[Sakizashi]

I really like the design of the XM Carbon speed bike. Its like a Pinarello before someone microwaved it.

They seem to have a soft spot for Pinarello, but I really appreciate them doing a design that's original and borrows the good bits (the head tube) rather than the melty bits (the fork and stays).

[Fatbonzo]

This one i'm discussing with Jack at Mondince: https://mondincecycle.com/product/2026_aero_design_t1000_carbon_fiber_road_bike_frame_fm126.html. I still dont have a geometry table, so idk if it'be a contender here, and they dont have the moulds yet. Last week, he was saying it's only a CAD file. Now he's saying they want to move to production and are thinking how to finance the moulds. I wonder if me asking 100 questions made them reconsider, maybe it's just coincidence. When i have more info, I'll probably post a thread, because if the geometry is what i want it to be, it might be a very popular frame. The fork is likely to be lighter / different from what's on the listing, which could be a bummer, as the fork on the render makes it look gangster. Price point of phase 1 (helping finance the moulds essentially) should be extremely attractive. Phase 2 will cost much more; either way, i wouldnt count on getting that frame for months.

Count me in, if they move forward, but the fork has to stay and 0 offset seatpost needs to be available

[GammaDriver]

...
The best option I have found so far (for me) is the Lightcarbon LCR018-D.
A fair bit of aero tweaks (with a stack between 390-400 and a stack of 600+)
But its still doesnt have real deep aero shapes.
...

I'm in the same line of thought, and so far the LCR018-D that you mentioned seems to be the only contender.  Yet the stack still seems to be closer to road-bike territory than the name-brand endurance bikes are.