Positive angled integrated handlebars.

[Vasegaard]

Hello dear community.
Longtime reader, first time poster.

I have been cycling for a while on an older Sage Carbon from Radon.
It’s time for a change and Ive been eyeing LongTeng (ltk 266 D-SL , 301, 268) and XM Carbon Speed and Speeder.

I sort of need a relatively high stack due to back problems and with these Chinese profiles they sometimes come short. After watching TDF and the Y1RS and cervelo S5 have positive angles integrated handlebars I thought they might be a good idea to add stack.

Does anyone know any Chinese sellers who produce these types?

[jfcb]

It will be difficult to find handlebars with a positive angle.
What does exist are integrated handlebars where the bars are uplifted, i.e.:
Onan HBR16: https://www.ornanbike.com/ultralight-aero-road-handlebars-295g-eps-with-one-piece-molding-tech_p189.html
T4 Ultra: https://aliexpi.com/5XcF

These don't have a steep angle and will give you an additional 5-10mm rise compared to the standard cockpits. Also, in general I noticed the real stem angle of integrated handlebars is a lot steeper than advertised when compared to separate stems. This is valid for asian (i.e. Ryet) as wel as western brands (i.e.speci roval).

On a side note, I would be looking for bike frames that naturally have already a lot of stack like the endurance and allroad/gravel frames.

[contraptions]

Nice find.  I'm sure I've seen those upswept bars somewhere else but can't recall.

Any experience with Ornan stuff, it looks like they're an actual OEM factory.

Thanks!

[jfcb]

Nice find.  I'm sure I've seen those upswept bars somewhere else but can't recall.

Any experience with Ornan stuff, it looks like they're an actual OEM factory.

Thanks!

A friend of has a set of mtb wheels he abuses in the downhills and they are still intact. I beleive Ornan focuses on wheels/rims and components, but indeed with a bigger focus on OEM. So I expect they have good quality products and know what they are doing.

[Lotnik]

Ridley Noah Fast 3.0 has also positive angle for the cockpit. But I haven't seen anything from east.

[contraptions]

A friend of has a set of mtb wheels he abuses in the downhills and they are still intact. I beleive Ornan focuses on wheels/rims and components, but indeed with a bigger focus on OEM. So I expect they have good quality products and know what they are doing.

Thanks, may give them a whirl and report back

[Mariuszuzd]

It will be difficult to find handlebars with a positive angle.
What does exist are integrated handlebars where the bars are uplifted, i.e.:
Onan HBR16: https://www.ornanbike.com/ultralight-aero-road-handlebars-295g-eps-with-one-piece-molding-tech_p189.html
T4 Ultra: https://aliexpi.com/5XcF

These don't have a steep angle and will give you an additional 5-10mm rise compared to the standard cockpits. Also, in general I noticed the real stem angle of integrated handlebars is a lot steeper than advertised when compared to separate stems. This is valid for asian (i.e. Ryet) as wel as western brands (i.e.speci roval).

On a side note, I would be looking for bike frames that naturally have already a lot of stack like the endurance and allroad/gravel frames.

Hi,
I was also looking for some positive angle integrated handlebar, but I'm afraid, that they marked it wrongly on the website. If you check below, in specification, you can find -8 angle. Also, on a drawing you can clearly see that this is negative, not positive angle.

[Cape_Kirk]

Not from Ali, but you can also buy a cockpit from rose (for backroad ff). I think the negative 10° stem and the (positive) rise of the bar equals to a 0° stem. If this is worth the money... (but I like the looks of it).

https://www.rosebikes.de/rose-one-piece-cockpit-gravel-2724845?sf=1

[contraptions]

It will be difficult to find handlebars with a positive angle.
What does exist are integrated handlebars where the bars are uplifted, i.e.:
Onan HBR16: https://www.ornanbike.com/ultralight-aero-road-handlebars-295g-eps-with-one-piece-molding-tech_p189.html
T4 Ultra: https://aliexpi.com/5XcF

These don't have a steep angle and will give you an additional 5-10mm rise compared to the standard cockpits. Also, in general I noticed the real stem angle of integrated handlebars is a lot steeper than advertised when compared to separate stems. This is valid for asian (i.e. Ryet) as wel as western brands (i.e.speci roval).

On a side note, I would be looking for bike frames that naturally have already a lot of stack like the endurance and allroad/gravel frames.

https://www.lightcarbon.com/ultra-light-and-aero-carbon-road-integrated-handlebar_p257.html

Remarkably similar but a few immediately obvious differences:
1. The ornan uses a (superior in my view) barrel nut arrangement.
2. The mounts attachment seems different

.... otherwise identical?

[POTOOOOOOOO]

There are a couple of minor differences, but very similar.

[Dr J]

It will be difficult to find handlebars with a positive angle.
What does exist are integrated handlebars where the bars are uplifted, i.e.:
Onan HBR16: https://www.ornanbike.com/ultralight-aero-road-handlebars-295g-eps-with-one-piece-molding-tech_p189.html
T4 Ultra: https://aliexpi.com/5XcF

These don't have a steep angle and will give you an additional 5-10mm rise compared to the standard cockpits. Also, in general I noticed the real stem angle of integrated handlebars is a lot steeper than advertised when compared to separate stems. This is valid for asian (i.e. Ryet) as wel as western brands (i.e.speci roval).

On a side note, I would be looking for bike frames that naturally have already a lot of stack like the endurance and allroad/gravel frames.

What do you guys think about the clamping mechanism on this T4 Bar? https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005008543319770.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.21f964bddDx2ug&algo_pvid=015c3d7b-49d5-4fa6-8437-b810acf2a369&algo_exp_id=015c3d7b-49d5-4fa6-8437-b810acf2a369-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22185%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21EUR%21317.02%21133.99%21%21%21362.10%21153.04%21%40211b61bb17567165683987937e8ab7%2112000045642363386%21sea%21DE%210%21ABX%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29910%3Bd%3Ad9fd9872%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895%3BpisId%3A5000000174635348&curPageLogUid=1AhUOB3HhGw3&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A1005008543319770%7C_p_origin_prod%3A

[xzx_components]

Onirii have a bar that was recently released but not available internationally yet

[craysor]

Carbonda, 6 degrees

[contraptions]

Carbonda, 6 degrees

I  can't spot any geometry diagrams... Am I missing something?

[Dark17]

Onirii have a bar that was recently released but not available internationally yet

Looks like a copy of Colnago Y1RS handlebars