VoiceVelo Echo (aero frame)

[akira11]

i got genuinely excited about this bike from the latest shanghai bike show, but there's been radio silence since then

this is the 1st road bike from the same brand that makes the G-major gravel frame that is available on panda podium

i think it looks absolutely incredible. let's see if anyone can share more news about it

[Tpower59]

i got genuinely excited about this bike from the latest shanghai bike show, but there's been radio silence since then

this is the 1st road bike from the same brand that makes the G-major gravel frame that is available on panda podium

i think it looks absolutely incredible. let's see if anyone can share more news about it

Cervelo clone ?

[Lotnik]

Cervelo clone ?

You must be blind XD
Rear triangle is more similar to Scott Foil, down tube a bit like a Pinarello, sniffer like Specialized and the fork-frame part looks like Factor.
Overall the frame looks very nice. But still my go to look now is Incolor Intropy SSR 

[Tpower59]

Really blind 🤣

[Da11as]

Would be nice to see geometry chart. Will be very disappointed to see another well made original frame with stupidly short stack and long reach.

[toxin]

If you think this is a cervelo clone, then every allrounder must be a tarmac clone to you?

Not a fan of the seatpost because it comes with built in setback, if the effective seat angle is very steep, or there's a zero/forward offset option I might be interested. Also hoping for a pretty agressive front end, if you need more stack you can add spacers or use a riser cockpit. I like that the downtube makes proper provisions for a bottle, something that's getting a bit rare these days, though it could be a bit more pronounced still.

[Da11as]

If you think this is a cervelo clone, then every allrounder must be a tarmac clone to you?

Not a fan of the seatpost because it comes with built in setback, if the effective seat angle is very steep, or there's a zero/forward offset option I might be interested. Also hoping for a pretty agressive front end, if you need more stack you can add spacers or use a riser cockpit. I like that the downtube makes proper provisions for a bottle, something that's getting a bit rare these days, though it could be a bit more pronounced still.

For a pretty aggressive front end you have Quick Pro ER. Something closer to the Foil geometry (which is higher stack bit still racy) would be welcome as there very few racing frames which could enable aero tuck for long legged folks.

[toxin]

Quick pro isnt very aggressive. There exist 3 frames which would fit my needs and they're all >5k€

[Tpower59]

Will be available to sell this month !

[Uberflo]

Any info about price or geometry?

[akira11]

Joe from panda podium has also confirmed they are working on the final production paintjobs so hopefully we will get a release in time

[Tpower59]

Geometry chart

[toxin]

Ah this sucks for me

[Tpower59]

The M is very close to an SL8, the echo is 5mm longer and taller in stack and reach (or to the Mondince aero which has the same geometry as an SL8).
So, it's not a crazy low front end bike, but it's aggressive like an SL8.

If the weight and Price matches with Mondince maybe I Will buy this one

[voidptr]

They appear to calculate seat tube angle differently than Cervelo's S5.
Cervelo seems to list STA at the average saddle height for each frame size, whereas VoiceVelo seems to reference handlebar stack height (much lower).
If that's the case, the effective STA is actually quite steep especially if you're having lots of exposed seat post.

Does anyone have solid info on this frame yet? So far I've only seen the short ChinaCycling video from the Shanghai show.