New TT frame from BXT

[RickyM]

I found a new frame on Ali.
Looks like a mix from the old Triaero, the scott plasma and the Canyon speedmax.
Simmilar to the new Quick pro.
What do you think?

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005010776201897.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller.1.4b7cjOPCjOPCI9&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=9eb63721-8d43-4237-beea-77804b5224e3&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.291025.0,pvid:9eb63721-8d43-4237-beea-77804b5224e3,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238111%231996&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22-1%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%223339%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22recommend%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21USD%213798.00%211899.00%21%21%213798.00%211899.00%21%40210328c017691655864238800e1128%2112000053474754829%21rec%21AR%21185111422%21XZ%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29919%3Bd%3A92c7174e%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A1005010776201897%7C_p_origin_prod%3A

[muringuets]

Expensive...

Other than that, not much to say... Waiting for people to build and see...

[Ludo]

Usually but is on the lower end of the price ladder, I would expect this to drop significantly

[toxin]

Cune aerium rip-off

[CycOps]

IMHO for a fast TT the frame needs a serious CFD design process plus wind tunnel testing. Mixing different existing designs in one frame doesn't automatically do the job.
Plus a fast UCI legal TT biken nowadays is aerodinamically designed for much higher speeds than triathlon TTs are, making them fast for their specific purpose, but not for the other (be it TT or tiathlon). Thats why Team Tudor who has BMC as bike sponsor will ride for the 2026 season an old TT model from BMC that was designed for road race TT speeds only, instead of the new BMC TT that is offered as an universal bike for both road race TT and triathlon. And reason is not that BMC is not willing to provide the team with the newest stuff.

[treyxt]

what i find most interesting about this is the basebar, which looks like a vision metron tfa (gen 1) copy (like the one pictured here: https://mchsports.com.au/products/vision-metron-tfa-aero-bar-with-tfe-pro-extension-bar)

[Lotnik]

IMHO for a fast TT the frame needs a serious CFD design process plus wind tunnel testing. Mixing different existing designs in one frame doesn't automatically do the job.
Plus a fast UCI legal TT biken nowadays is aerodinamically designed for much higher speeds than triathlon TTs are, making them fast for their specific purpose, but not for the other (be it TT or tiathlon). Thats why Team Tudor who has BMC as bike sponsor will ride for the 2026 season an old TT model from BMC that was designed for road race TT speeds only, instead of the new BMC TT that is offered as an universal bike for both road race TT and triathlon. And reason is not that BMC is not willing to provide the team with the newest stuff.

I've seen BMC tests new TT bike for Tudor with Lotus like wide rear traingle.

[CycOps]

I've seen BMC tests new TT bike for Tudor with Lotus like wide rear traingle.

That's really interesting! But sounds like a prototype we'll maybe see in the 2027 season?
What I worte is something I've read on a German road bike news page which I deem a pretty reliable source:

https://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_144105.htm

[CycOps]

@RickM pls don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the new BTX TT is a bad bike. What I wanted to point out is that designing a too notch TT frame needs a lot of financial resources.

[toxin]

That's really interesting! But sounds like a prototype we'll maybe see in the 2027 season?
What I worte is something I've read on a German road bike news page which I deem a pretty reliable source:

https://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_144105.htm

You'll see it raced this season.

[CTR]

Weird proprietary stem and handlebar..

[RickyM]

@RickM pls don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the new BTX TT is a bad bike. What I wanted to point out is that designing a too notch TT frame needs a lot of financial resources.

Hey! I´m not worried, I was just curious about that new frame and wanted to see you guys oppinion. A lot of old and new frames "look" fast but then in test they are just about the same as any other. Personally I like more "clean" frames, I think this has too mucho of too many things.

[rockerplates.de]

Well, there is no reason for this price..we have been buying tt frames for over a decade...the prices always are around 750 USD to 950 USD..
we see an increasing number of chinese companies trying to sell these frames for double?
Other give away exclusivity to european clients and the clients does not sell it ? (Ican does not sell to us because of a contract in Germany, but the bike is not marketed , yet)
Tantans frame looks promising and offers good geometry for 700 USD less...but no boxes...

[CycOps]

You'll see it raced this season.

They seem to be still in the development phase, and a change in UCI rules made their first sets of molds become something for the trash yard. Escape collective has some veeeeery intesting insights in how costly the development of a top notch TT frame is:

https://escapecollective.com/inside-tudor-and-bmcs-innovative-time-trial-project-part-i/

https://escapecollective.com/exclusive-part-2-inside-bmc-and-tudors-new-tt-bike-project/

[CycOps]

You'll see it raced this season.

@Toxin you were right, we could see it already, Küng raced a prototype TT in the Challenge Mallorca, with the rest of the team on the old frame model.
I'm a bit confused as I that frame and fork needs UCI approval to be used in a race?!?