XMCS - 2026 VRT

[joachim.glink]

Until we are there, we will be offering our frames without branding

When will the frame be available to purchase.
The website doesn´t list it yet.

[tjebakka]

You can send an inquiry to Peter. It's not yet available in all sizes tho.

[joachim.glink]

Does a sizing chart exist for the frame.
Interested in sizes M/L

[Bonus79]

Does a sizing chart exist for the frame.
Interested in sizes M/L

You can find them in the first post of this topic....

[Bonus79]

Statement on the naming below.

Honestly, the AERYS brand font/logo wasn't to my taste...if I were Peter, I'd keep the XMCS brand, but I'd work on the logo, perhaps differentiating it from the one used for the rest of the production.
I don't like the new logo on Patrick's bike; I think the one created by a forum user for the Gran Turismo frame is much better (see photo).

[Bonus79]

Already got some good news, but really excited to know more detailed results, we just keep up our work to make high quality stuff.

Beautiful frame!

I see that most aero frames have a very straight/not very sloping top tube...I suppose this is related to aerodynamics and/or the overall stiffness desired for the frame....but I'd like to see more sloping aero frames in the future (see Cervélo S5) with a seat tube length of 500/510mm for a size 56 instead of the usual 520/540mm.

[Requiem84]

With the white brand font, it looks much better with clean wheels. Thanks for the shot Patty, really a shame we can’t use it :-). I hope you don’t mind me posting it.

Almost starting with our build, few last things with the gravel frame to be done. I gotta say, the VRT is quite a special frame.

Painted, with UDH hanger and front derailler mount just a hair above 900g. It has a very narrow front profile. Can’t wait to have it fully build up and give it a go.

[tjebakka]

@Requiem84 does your frame still have the Aerys decals?

Can't wait to come check it out IRL soon!

[Requiem84]

@Requiem84 does your frame still have the Aerys decals?

Can't wait to come check it out IRL soon!

Nope, completely clean frame.

[bsharp77]

With the white brand font, it looks much better with clean wheels. Thanks for the shot Patty, really a shame we can’t use it :-). I hope you don’t mind me posting it.

Almost starting with our build, few last things with the gravel frame to be done. I gotta say, the VRT is quite a special frame.

Painted, with UDH hanger and front derailler mount just a hair above 900g. It has a very narrow front profile. Can’t wait to have it fully build up and give it a go.

Yikes, didn't realise the frame was going to come in that light. What size frame is that for?
I assume the plans for a super light frame are on hold or cancelled, but pretty much not needed when your normal frame is coming in at that weight - crazy good.

What are the updates on availability and final pricing?
As fantastically good as it all is, its under severe pressure all of a sudden from quite a few upcoming framesets (thinking of the LCR020-D in particular).

[patliean1]

I've been purposely avoiding spamming this thread with micro updates and random photos until everything on Peter's side gets sorted out. Plus we are waiting for a couple more wind tunnel validation results before making my long form video update.

The bike has been lovely. I've been doing my usual routes and activities to get a good feel of the riding dynamics. This includes using a variety of wheels, rim depths, and tire sizes along with varying ride conditions. Chicago has seen some crazy windy days as of late.

XMCS VRT vs Quick Pro ER:One vs Scott Foil

-The XMCS VRT "feels" the fastest in a straight line versus the other two frames. Especially in a tailwind. And is also the least controlled in strong crosswinds. This shouldn't be a surprise given the deep headtube. This could also be a rider bike fit specific variable.

-In terms of immediate responsiveness when you mash on the pedal that award goes to the Scott Foil. That said, both the XMCS VRT and Quick Pro are marginally more comfortable bikes to ride. Slight edge to the XMCS VRT.

-Nimbleness the XMCS VRT is a close second to the Foil. I like the way it climbs out of the saddle.

-74° seat tube. I keep coming back to this as I am really trying my best to embrace the current trend of more saddle forward bike fits. Truthfully I don't have choice on the XMCS VRT because my saddle's rails are at their limits, and still have about a 15mm setback delta from my usual bike fit. This setup is probably "okay" for a 30 minute crit. But I wouldn't wanna do this for a 5 hour ride. This isn't intended to scare anyone away. I am well aware to be in the small minority. Peter will be releasing a 15mm setback post sometime this Summer. So in terms of bike fit I found the Scott Foil and Quick Pro easier to set up.

[Requiem84]

Yikes, didn't realise the frame was going to come in that light. What size frame is that for?
I assume the plans for a super light frame are on hold or cancelled, but pretty much not needed when your normal frame is coming in at that weight - crazy good.

What are the updates on availability and final pricing?
As fantastically good as it all is, its under severe pressure all of a sudden from quite a few upcoming framesets (thinking of the LCR020-D in particular).

I need to correct myself on this one, think my scales had a Monday morning when I weighed it.

Painted frame, size L, no derailler mount, no UDH hanger, 4 (bottle) bolts weighs 961.9g.

[xrider91]

-74° seat tube. I keep coming back to this as I am really trying my best to embrace the current trend of more saddle forward bike fits. Truthfully I don't have choice on the XMCS VRT because my saddle's rails are at their limits, and still have about a 15mm setback delta from my usual bike fit. This setup is probably "okay" for a 30 minute crit. But I wouldn't wanna do this for a 5 hour ride. This isn't intended to scare anyone away. I am well aware to be in the small minority. Peter will be releasing a 15mm setback post sometime this Summer. So in terms of bike fit I found the Scott Foil and Quick Pro easier to set up.

Really interesting!

Slighlty OT, but I will say that all trends aren't for all people and it's really dependent on your body shape/proportions. I've recently gone from a BMC with a 74deg seat tube (15mm offset sp) to a Supersix Evo with 72.3deg (20mm offset sp), with a significant increase in comfort.

Was I able to push more absolute watts on the BMC? Possibly for intervals <20min. As you say, anything more and fatigue sets in.

Best solution? Try a saddle that doesn't taper a lot toward the front i.e. Specialized Power Evo so you can be supported when putting in really hard efforts if required.

Hopefully the 15mm seatpost rectifies the fit issue for you.

[Sakizashi]

-74° seat tube. I keep coming back to this as I am really trying my best to embrace the current trend of more saddle forward bike fits. Truthfully I don't have choice on the XMCS VRT because my saddle's rails are at their limits, and still have about a 15mm setback delta from my usual bike fit. This setup is probably "okay" for a 30 minute crit. But I wouldn't wanna do this for a 5 hour ride. This isn't intended to scare anyone away. I am well aware to be in the small minority. Peter will be releasing a 15mm setback post sometime this Summer. So in terms of bike fit I found the Scott Foil and Quick Pro easier to set up.

This bike sounds incredible--I personally really look forward to hearing more about this. Quick Pro has become the one of the most visible brands in my area on the road, probably almost to the same level as Canyon. I rarely ever saw Winspace etc, so this the benchmark against them will be interesting.

RE: fit. I think you need to get completely refitted before you try the forward position and make it work. It's not going to work for everyone, but I think there is a significant underestimation of the change required to put your body forward and maintain a comfortable, stable position that also uses your glutes. I think that the people who have been doing this the longest aren't just slamming seatposts forward; they are also moving saddles down and using shorter cranks, using the bit of the open hip angle to make up for how the power-producing part of the pedal stroke has shifted a bit. It also wouldn't surprise me if they are running their cleats further forward and not slamming those back, which would reduce peak loads on the knee joints. Then on the front--they are going a lot longer to stretch out, something that this bike, geometry-wise, doesn't support as it's too short given the stem lengths you already use. Idk if you want to revisit using the OUO track stem or a 160mm Deda Superbox, but those could be options to consider, even with a regular-width bar, if you want to play with it.

[patliean1]

I think that the people who have been doing this the longest aren't just slamming seatposts forward; they are also moving saddles down and using shorter cranks, using the bit of the open hip angle to make up for how the power-producing part of the pedal stroke has shifted a bit. It also wouldn't surprise me if they are running their cleats further forward and not slamming those back, which would reduce peak loads on the knee joints. Then on the front--they are going a lot longer to stretch out, something that this bike, geometry-wise, doesn't support as it's too short given the stem lengths you already use. Idk if you want to revisit using the OUO track stem or a 160mm Deda Superbox, but those could be options to consider, even with a regular-width bar, if you want to play with it.

A very keen eye and memory you have. I am both impressed and flattered you remembered. SALUTE!

This sounds strange but I actually find satisfaction in tinkering with my bike fit. Almost as much as building bikes. And I always use masking tape markings and record all measurements before making tweaks. My logic is I wont know my absolute optimal bike fit unless I experiment. But I don't touch my primary bikes. For the off-season I'm going to do a full reset from scratch and just play around with every single variable.

My body is a disaster. Not only do I have collapsed foot arches which are totally flat, I have skinny heels and a very high instep. So my inward pedaling style has me occasionally rubbing both the top tube and seat post. Add to the fact my right leg is shorter by about 5-6mm due to a basketball injury, I've gotten accustomed to asymmetry on the bike. No saddle sores or knee pain. Just asymmetry. Gotta love insoles and wedges. Never mind my long arms, femurs, and super short torso.

I've gone to two professional bike fitters. One said I need an even longer reach. The other said I need to move my saddle forward. Both have said my body has a particularly easy ability to adjust to extreme and suboptimal fits. Whatever that means. At this point I'd rather just do it myself with a turbo trainer and a camera. I am super jealous of anyone with a smooth and symmetrical pedaling style.

Perhaps the Factor One might be my solution