Author Topic: New Avenger R8-RS  (Read 42196 times)

bsharp77

New Avenger R8-RS
« on: March 12, 2026, 09:12:12 AM »
Interesting new bike from Avenger.
Looks aero, light-ish (quoted 964g for 52cm frame), but the handlebar options are very interesting.

Supports a standard handlebar with a dedicated spacer kit, but also fits a really good looking Y type handlebar, with integrated aero extensions which is what really caught my attention - perfect for fast solo riding, and would make a heck of a fast ultra endurance bike.



Full details here:
https://avengerbikes.com/collections/carbon-road-bike/products/avenger-full-carbon-fiber-aero-road-frameset-r8rs

« Last Edit: March 12, 2026, 09:17:55 AM by bsharp77 »

Ludo

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2026, 09:35:33 AM »
But that price point…

bsharp77

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2026, 09:40:57 AM »
$1669 including the fancy bars and the aero extensions and adapters
$1399 including standard type road handlebar only

Not the worst pricing I reckon.

Im pinning all hopes on Peters new aero frame, but its always great to have choice, and this one looks great.
I wish more companies would introduce integrated aero bar options.

toxin

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2026, 09:47:55 AM »
This is almost very nice. Geometry sucks, leading edge on the stem is very flat and the head tube nose radius is way too small, other than that it's almost reminiscent of some stuff I'm working on
« Last Edit: March 12, 2026, 10:40:52 AM by toxin »

Dark17

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2026, 09:48:00 AM »
But that price point…

Same price with XMCS, Quick Pro, Evolve etc. Fair price.

casper.f

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2026, 10:06:58 AM »
Same price with XMCS, Quick Pro, Evolve etc. Fair price.
Well, yes and no. Avenger functions as HongFu's D2C retail layer targeted at Western markets.

Historically, Avenger frames and their raw HongFu equivalents shared a $700 price point, while baseline open-mold frames hovered around $500.

The newer Avenger platforms (excluding those distributed via DengFu) all exceed $1000. Without documented engineering improvements, the markup primarily funds a Westernized brand identity and increased marketing overhead.

This pricing shift is frustrating, but it aligns with current Tier-2 D2C market norms
« Last Edit: March 12, 2026, 10:11:29 AM by casper.f »

patliean1

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2026, 10:07:14 AM »
I'm starting to get aero bike fatigue. Of course this isn't the fault of any particular brand. But it is reminiscent of the one-bike-to-rule-them-all Tarmac SL7 trends of 2020-2023. Everyone is trying to gain marketshare. I get it.

My current numbness makes me wanna sell everything, buy the latest Giant Propel, and call it day.

Ludo

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2026, 10:09:48 AM »
I have the same issue with these brands. You are in the discounted end of the year range for Scott, time and other big name, and the resale value won’t be comparable. I personally have a hard time making the chiner frame numbers work at these prices. That’s just my opinion and I am not trying to convince anyone ;)

Dareios

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2026, 01:47:59 PM »
I'm starting to get aero bike fatigue. Of course this isn't the fault of any particular brand. But it is reminiscent of the one-bike-to-rule-them-all Tarmac SL7 trends of 2020-2023. Everyone is trying to gain marketshare. I get it.

My current numbness makes me wanna sell everything, buy the latest Giant Propel, and call it day.
I mean, this one has the aerobike cockpit and aero features, but overall the tubing looks more do it all to me. I do like what Velobuild did with their own design, this one looks like someone just threw an S5 handlebar + some extra aero features on the Quickpro AR One.

Sakizashi

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2026, 02:35:14 PM »
I'm starting to get aero bike fatigue. Of course this isn't the fault of any particular brand. But it is reminiscent of the one-bike-to-rule-them-all Tarmac SL7 trends of 2020-2023. Everyone is trying to gain marketshare. I get it.

My current numbness makes me wanna sell everything, buy the latest Giant Propel, and call it day.

Man, I am with you. I feel like we are in a place where so many brands are going for aesthetic because testing is too hard and they get reviewers and press to recycle a n=1 observation as a universal truth.

For example, this "leading edge isn't aero," or the "less than UCI max deep tubes means they left watts on the table in exchange for weight." Did they? Unless they test it themselves or quote the designer, those are just aesthetic at best, slightly informed, aesthetic-based comments. Even if you take the time to reconstruct the profile and run CFD, you are still limited by the assumptions you made, rather than by a model informed by actual measurements on a test rig with your bike and a dummy. It becomes a case of bad data in, bad data out. But hey, the bike "holds speed" or is "cross wind stable" for the reviewer, so that's nice.

According to their own presentation, Giant saved a whopping 1.2w on the frame for the new Propel. The rest of it was tires (6.2w), wheels (2.2w), and a narrower bar and resulting positional changes (~8.8w). 

With so many of these Chinese-brand bikes, we see pretty upright, old-school (short-reach) geometries and integrated or highly proprietary bars. The Avenger follows that trend, basically becoming an endurance bike with the Y shaped bar.

How many position watts are you giving up vs. what you get back from the frame? Given that people DIYing their aero setups for roadbikes seem to be getting CDAs down from what was world-class a few years ago at 0.26x to 0.22x or even 0.20x, the frame's aero is pretty much irrelevant if you can't get the fit right as you are talking like 30 times or more greater impact from fit vs. one generation of aero bike to the next.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2026, 02:39:57 PM by Sakizashi »

kubackje

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2026, 03:56:41 AM »
I would like to know what is the real stack and reach here when using the riser bars vs normal bars.
Also geometry for me should be more progressive. Steepers ST, longer reach, longer front center, lower BB.
I already have the bike with similar geo to this one, makes no sense to change it for something basically identical just with more aero shape (this doesn't change that much imo, it's marketing).

Tpower59

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2026, 04:27:43 AM »
I'm starting to get aero bike fatigue. Of course this isn't the fault of any particular brand. But it is reminiscent of the one-bike-to-rule-them-all Tarmac SL7 trends of 2020-2023. Everyone is trying to gain marketshare. I get it.

My current numbness makes me wanna sell everything, buy the latest Giant Propel, and call it day.

Frame set for Propel 2026 SL can be found for 2000€ in Europe
Just studied the subject but there are 2 red flags for me :
1. Integrated seatpost : what is this shit ??
2. D shaped steerer tube that make almost impossible to use any standard integrated headset

What do you think about this downsides Patrick ?

bsharp77

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2026, 05:29:45 AM »
Frame set for Propel 2026 SL can be found for 2000€ in Europe
Just studied the subject but there are 2 red flags for me :
1. Integrated seatpost : what is this shit ??
2. D shaped steerer tube that make almost impossible to use any standard integrated headset

What do you think about this downsides Patrick ?

Could you let me know where you’ve seen a Propel SL for €2000?
At that money it’s a fantastic buy.

Tpower59

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2026, 05:41:29 AM »
Could you let me know where you’ve seen a Propel SL for €2000?
At that money it’s a fantastic buy.
https://www.bike24.com/p21017720.html

bsharp77

Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2026, 06:24:52 AM »
https://www.bike24.com/p21017720.html

Thanks for that.
No UK delivery….probably a good thing to stop me! :-)
For that money, it’s an unbelievable buy.