New Avenger R8-RS

[offspring_fan]

Thanks for that.
No UK delivery….probably a good thing to stop me! :-)
For that money, it’s an unbelievable buy.

Bad news @bsharp77, you can get one from this UK store for exactly the same price. All sizes currently in stock too 

https://www.swinnertoncycles.co.uk/products/giant-propel-advanced-pro-ff-frames-2026

[bsharp77]

Bad news @bsharp77, you can get one from this UK store for exactly the same price. All sizes currently in stock too 

https://www.swinnertoncycles.co.uk/products/giant-propel-advanced-pro-ff-frames-2026

That’s not the SL thankfully! :-)
It’s £2300ish which is just a bit too much for me.

[Tpower59]

That’s not the SL thankfully! :-)
It’s £2300ish which is just a bit too much for me.

I wonder how to fit standard round integrated cockpit
This might work
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EIXtYP6

[offspring_fan]

That’s not the SL thankfully! :-)
It’s £2300ish which is just a bit too much for me.

Ah, beg your pardon 

[sandwich]

not gonna lie, I love this.  I had an Avenger/Hongfu FM109/TM6 before and the build quality was impeccable.  I really enjoyed that bike but didn't have room for a TT bike and a Road bike.  This could solve both purposes.  The geometry is almost identical to my 3T strada, which I adore.  Not sure how fit would be- reach and stack are the same but head tube is way different and the short headtube/riser stem thing is hard to measure.  I think it'll be pretty similar- the stem has a 71mm rise and the headtube is measured at 132mm.

From a practical standpoint, you get 34mm tire clearance, a pretty normal bike otherwise, and the aero extension add-ons.  Plus you can convert to normal (apparently) if you want to run a normal stem or handlebars (looks like it might need a new fork, I guess).  Weight seems comparable to other offerings, and I'm not sure an aero frame makes that much of a difference over a normal frame (1.2w?) that I'd worry about getting the very best aero or one that is simply competitive in the space.  Price seems comparable too; a winspace Agile is $1330 with the bars, this one is 1400 with bars....though Hongfu charged me shipping as a separate item in the past.

Not sure I'll scoop one up, but I'll keep my eye out. 

[bsharp77]

not gonna lie, I love this.  I had an Avenger/Hongfu FM109/TM6 before and the build quality was impeccable.  I really enjoyed that bike but didn't have room for a TT bike and a Road bike.  This could solve both purposes.  The geometry is almost identical to my 3T strada, which I adore.  Not sure how fit would be- reach and stack are the same but head tube is way different and the short headtube/riser stem thing is hard to measure.  I think it'll be pretty similar- the stem has a 71mm rise and the headtube is measured at 132mm.

From a practical standpoint, you get 34mm tire clearance, a pretty normal bike otherwise, and the aero extension add-ons.  Plus you can convert to normal (apparently) if you want to run a normal stem or handlebars (looks like it might need a new fork, I guess).  Weight seems comparable to other offerings, and I'm not sure an aero frame makes that much of a difference over a normal frame (1.2w?) that I'd worry about getting the very best aero or one that is simply competitive in the space.  Price seems comparable too; a winspace Agile is $1330 with the bars, this one is 1400 with bars....though Hongfu charged me shipping as a separate item in the past.

Not sure I'll scoop one up, but I'll keep my eye out.

The product page on their website shows a special headset converter / spacer that they seem to use to changed from the Y type cockpit to a standard setup.

[rockerplates.de]

Well, yes and no. Avenger functions as HongFu's D2C retail layer targeted at Western markets.

Historically, Avenger frames and their raw HongFu equivalents shared a $700 price point, while baseline open-mold frames hovered around $500.

The newer Avenger platforms (excluding those distributed via DengFu) all exceed $1000. Without documented engineering improvements, the markup primarily funds a Westernized brand identity and increased marketing overhead.

This pricing shift is frustrating, but it aligns with current Tier-2 D2C market norms

Well, it seems all chinese manufacturers increased prices dramatically....tt frames for 1500 USD, this frame for 1500 USD? does not make sense at all.....

[Samuel BMR]

Thanks for that.
No UK delivery….probably a good thing to stop me! :-)
For that money, it’s an unbelievable buy.

That’s the PREVIOUS GEN tho, it’s advertised as 2026 but it’s NOT…! If you compare with the new version, which has LOWER SEATSTAYS you notice the difference. And the new one is still 3700-3800€

So they’re just discounting the previous model 

[alfiomotrambo]

That’s the PREVIOUS GEN tho, it’s advertised as 2026 but it’s NOT…! If you compare with the new version, which has LOWER SEATSTAYS you notice the difference. And the new one is still 3700-3800€

So they’re just discounting the previous model 

got it, but for the price even if it's the last year model, still a bargain

[Samuel BMR]

got it, but for the price even if it's the last year model, still a bargain

Sure thing since as we all know the new frameset is like 50g lighter and 2-3W faster at best hahaha
Don’t forget that the corresponding Aero handlebars have to be bought… for 400€ minimum so that adds up

[sandwich]

The product page on their website shows a special headset converter / spacer that they seem to use to changed from the Y type cockpit to a standard setup.

Yeah, but the steerer is cut pretty flush with the Y bar.  You'll need an extended steerer tube for a regular stem and that adapter.  Might be easier/more straightforward to start with the adapter and upgrade later, if you want the cheaper setup

[cateto]

This is almost very nice. Geometry sucks, leading edge on the stem is very flat and the head tube nose radius is way too small, other than that it's almost reminiscent of some stuff I'm working on

Why do you say that the geo sucks? It is basically the exact same as the new Cervelo S5. Tbf I would have liked to see a bit more stack, but it's not too bad as it is now.

I am really interested in this frame, has anybody actually received it?

[toxin]

Seat angle too slack for what is supposed to be a race bike. S5 has a similar problem, but at least it has the excuse of having a divergent seat post

[crwlv888]

The frame was packaged and protected very well, and the entire bike is equipped with silver titanium bolts.

According to the frame geometry chart, the handlebar rise is between 70.8 and 82.5mm. However, since the head tube drops by about 30mm, you actually need to subtract 30mm from the stack value. The seatpost has a 5mm setback (sadly, there wasn't a 0mm inline option).

Once assembled, the bike looks great.

[SWeiden]

Looks good!