New Avenger R8-RS

[Mariuszuzd]

Nice, I was not aware of it! So that is potentially a good from bike fitting perspective.

[Serge_K]

Would be curious to see a build video, routing hoses through that must be an adventure. Impossible to change the stem without de-cabling everything, btw, so you can't buy 2-3 stems and casually swap them for bike fit.
I also really doubt you can run mechanical shifting + hydro hoses in there.
I'm no engineer, but a stem is big, so it can be thin + strong. This system replaces the stem with 2 narrow tubes, so they need to be thicker.
I wonder about build quality, weight, ease of use, ride quality.
Kudos for innovating though.

[Mariuszuzd]

I saw some post on facebook I believe, with the whole build, I don't remember the exact weight but it was around 6.8 kg. I will try to have as light as possible but without any sacrifices.

[arvh]

Would be curious to see a build video, routing hoses through that must be an adventure. Impossible to change the stem without de-cabling everything, btw, so you can't buy 2-3 stems and casually swap them for bike fit.
I also really doubt you can run mechanical shifting + hydro hoses in there.
I'm no engineer, but a stem is big, so it can be thin + strong. This system replaces the stem with 2 narrow tubes, so they need to be thicker.
I wonder about build quality, weight, ease of use, ride quality.
Kudos for innovating though.

I asked about mechanical shifting earlier in this thread and someone confirmed that mechanical would be impossible due to small routing holes in handlebar/stem.

[CoffeeNbikes]

Just received my black and gold frameset. Anyone know what is this little screw hole  at the headset areafor? Thanks!

[Pistonbroke]

Fork stop I reckon

[BeR]

Just received my black and gold frameset. Anyone know what is this little screw hole  at the headset areafor? Thanks!

You can have a look at the page 23 of the SL9 manual (same screw).

[Ibanibani]

Hello, is somebody using the ICON handlebar (and not the Y one), on the chart we could see +49mm on the stack height with a 90mm Y stem, I'm searching for this stack value with the ICON handlebar (cf. the photo).

The ICON is light bit lighter and I love his shape. If the rise it quite similar I'm on the fence to choose it...

Any advice?

[Mariuszuzd]

My frameset should arrive tomorrow, I will prepare some unboxing and a lot of photos. Attached you can find the photos I got from Hattie. I'm really looking forward to have it assembled really quickly, and to test and compare with my Shuttle SL.

[Bonus79]

The frame looks interesting and aesthetically pleasing too, but as far as I'm concerned, there's one detail that would really put me off... the brand name Avenger.

Question: has anyone who rides an Avenger frame ever been teased by their riding buddies because of the name (Avenger > superhero)? 

[Mariuszuzd]

But why ? Maybe it's not the best name, but why would anyone teased someone faster on better frameset  Come on, not joking, we are not in the high school anymore. Why would anyone do that ? I'm not teasing other for having canyon or trek, which are crappy made, having issues with BB, with painting, cracking, breaking etc.

I have just got it! On live it looks.....stunning! Quick weighting, I will upload some unboxing. Frame 1158 g, fork 453 g, seatpost all 181 g, handlebar 405 g. I quickly calculated the same elements for Shuttle SL and the difference is 583 g. All for size 58. The idea is to have it around 7.2 kg.

[Vasegaard]

Would the new hyper bar from winspace with this frame?

[Mariuszuzd]

Answering your question, I believe yes, but probably you would need to work on spacers. The shape of it is rather unusual. I promised some more photos and data, here you go - some weighting of the frameset. In my opinion it's not bad - https://youtu.be/ULC6ZW79f9w?is=SnlJQ3HM6drWxIO5



Most important information from my side is that definitely the geometry is quite different and someone above noticed that correctly! I don't know if that is really 30 mm, or even more, but it's not correct. I calculated all in the bikegeocalc.com and with only one or even no spacers the stack with the 120 mm stem should be the same as on my Shuttle SL. I assembled the frame with some wheels and seatpost only, to verify it before full assembling of the bike. That was really smart decision and I done some measurements from the floor! With one spacers I was around 4 cm lower than shuttle, only some quick measurements. So I decided to put all spacers and even add one round, they gave me only 3 cm of spacers. After that I hit my assumed and perfect handlebar height, the same as on my shuttle. Then I calculated the height of the saddle and the desired drop/grip drop will be reached. Unfortunately, I got only 6 spacers, so I'm waiting for 2 more from Avenger. Except that, the frameset is really stunning! Painting, how it's made, the set, all is perfect!

[Pehem]

I'll be interested to have your feedback on headseat adjustment with 8 plastic spacers.

The frame looks interesting and aesthetically pleasing too, but as far as I'm concerned, there's one detail that would really put me off... the brand name Avenger.

Question: has anyone who rides an Avenger frame ever been teased by their riding buddies because of the name (Avenger > superhero)? 

Yep.  I always say first that I find the brandname shit so they don't tell it. Avenger makes it sound like something toyish/not serious/fragile.
I actually hesitated to buy it because of the name. That's dumb if you have all the characterics/numbers/figures of the frame and it fits all the conditions you want but that's how buyer's psychology works. They really have to improve on marketing. I wouldn't buy a frame with an (according to me) ugly paint or ugly tube form though, even if it's the fastest bike on earth.

[CoffeeNbikes]

So here is the finish build.  For people wondering, the absolute vertical stack from base of stem to top of handlebar of 120mm Y stem is around 5.5cm
(Compared to 2 cm vertical stack for  -9 angle 125mm stem).
Also, the head tube notch is 2.5 cm and i think it is same for all frame size since it is same than the stem clamp area height.
Finally, here is a photo.
Final build 7.3 kg without pedals and bottle cage. Size 56.
Yoeleo 50/60 nxt wheels, wheeltop carbon crankset, wheeltop eds tx.