Author Topic: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement  (Read 8699 times)

Pistonbroke

Re: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement
« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2026, 03:37:00 PM »
Sounds like mine has been to the paint shop  :)
Gotta be called the SL Nein right  8)
I'm trademarking that!

bahnhofer

Re: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement
« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2026, 11:55:29 AM »
I just had a crash with the old X68 and the top tube was damaged.
So I'm looking for the new X68.
TT approved the seat post will stay the same.

What I'm wondering is the weight increase of the frame.
My old one in 54 was about 770g.
I found pictures on the TT side of 837g and 984g on the Seraph side (all without paintwork).

Makes me a bit nervous.
Does someone received his frame and can state the real weight?

Thank you

Pistonbroke

Re: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement
« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2026, 12:19:23 PM »
I'll weigh and measure when it pitches up, but it'll be a 56.
I will be absolutely made up and pmsl if it fits my 35mm gp5k :)

Kar25

Re: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement
« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2026, 02:45:22 PM »
I just had a crash with the old X68 and the top tube was damaged.
So I'm looking for the new X68.
TT approved the seat post will stay the same.

What I'm wondering is the weight increase of the frame.
My old one in 54 was about 770g.
I found pictures on the TT side of 837g and 984g on the Seraph side (all without paintwork).

Makes me a bit nervous.
Does someone received his frame and can state the real weight?

Thank you

The new X68 has gained quite a bit of weight 🐷 .
From what I’ve dug up, for a size 56, it has gained approximately:
frame: ~100g
fork: ~40g+
seatpost: ~40g... so that’s not insignificant (at least in my book 🤷‍♂️).
Size 56 (frame, fork, seatpost, handlebar) with a glossy UD finish ends up weighing around 2000g 🤯 ...they definitely shouldn't be calling it "lightweight" anymore.

It was at the top of my list for a new bike, but unfortunately, it’s dropping lower in the rankings by the day.


bahnhofer

Re: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement
« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2026, 03:12:44 AM »
What is your current favourite?

Serge_K

Re: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement
« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2026, 03:38:39 AM »
anyone asked the sellers why the weight increased? Is it because they're cheaping out on fibers, and cheaper fibers weigh more, or is it them adding carbon because frames were breaking? The exploding fork(s) is something that had not been seen in years in Chinese carbon stuff. The risk of "will my frame disintegrate from under me" was no longer a fear, and then that brought it back.

Pistonbroke

Re: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2026, 03:59:58 AM »
I've asked Rose, will let you know  :)

And my frame is on the way 8)


You can also have what Gemini surmised about the weight gain...





The updated X68 revision incorporates design cues reflecting the Tarmac SL9 frame styling. Visually, this means broader aero profiles around the head tube junction, deeper fork legs, and slightly filled-in fairings around the seat tube/bottom bracket area to improve wind-tunnel efficiency.


1. Fork & Front-End Structural Reinforcement
On early iterations of the SL8-style X68, users and testers noted that the forks were pushed to dangerous sub-340g limits with very thin carbon layups. Following safety feedback, manufacturers increased the wall thickness of the steerer tube and fork blades—bumping uncut fork weights from ~340g to ~415g+ alone. Added carbon around the deeper head tube junction contributes a significant chunk of that extra weight.

2. UDH Dropouts & Metal Hardware Inserts
Transitioning the rear triangle to accommodate a true SRAM UDH (Universal Derailleur Hanger) spec requires a much beefier, denser carbon structure around the drive-side dropout, along with heavier aluminum insert hardware to support high-torque derailleur mounting.

3. Increased Surface Area (Deeper Aero Profiles)
To mimic the SL9's refined aerodynamics, tube profiles around the top of the down tube, bottom bracket junction, and seat post collar were widened. More surface area naturally requires more carbon cloth and resin to wrap the mold.

4. Manufacturing Safety Margins (Wall Thickness)
Mass-producing ultra-light ~800g frames with cheaper T700/T800 carbon grades leaves zero room for error. Open-mold factories frequently add extra resin and structural layers after initial production runs to lower warranty claim rates, prevent frame cracking around the bottom bracket, and ensure pass marks on ISO impact tests.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2026, 04:15:50 AM by Pistonbroke »

Kar25

Re: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2026, 06:46:42 AM »
I've asked Rose, will let you know  :)

And my frame is on the way 8)


You can also have what Gemini surmised about the weight gain...





The updated X68 revision incorporates design cues reflecting the Tarmac SL9 frame styling. Visually, this means broader aero profiles around the head tube junction, deeper fork legs, and slightly filled-in fairings around the seat tube/bottom bracket area to improve wind-tunnel efficiency.


1. Fork & Front-End Structural Reinforcement
On early iterations of the SL8-style X68, users and testers noted that the forks were pushed to dangerous sub-340g limits with very thin carbon layups. Following safety feedback, manufacturers increased the wall thickness of the steerer tube and fork blades—bumping uncut fork weights from ~340g to ~415g+ alone. Added carbon around the deeper head tube junction contributes a significant chunk of that extra weight.

2. UDH Dropouts & Metal Hardware Inserts
Transitioning the rear triangle to accommodate a true SRAM UDH (Universal Derailleur Hanger) spec requires a much beefier, denser carbon structure around the drive-side dropout, along with heavier aluminum insert hardware to support high-torque derailleur mounting.

3. Increased Surface Area (Deeper Aero Profiles)
To mimic the SL9's refined aerodynamics, tube profiles around the top of the down tube, bottom bracket junction, and seat post collar were widened. More surface area naturally requires more carbon cloth and resin to wrap the mold.

4. Manufacturing Safety Margins (Wall Thickness)
Mass-producing ultra-light ~800g frames with cheaper T700/T800 carbon grades leaves zero room for error. Open-mold factories frequently add extra resin and structural layers after initial production runs to lower warranty claim rates, prevent frame cracking around the bottom bracket, and ensure pass marks on ISO impact tests.

The specs say it uses full T1000 carbon 🤣 but yeah... If that were really the case, the bike wouldn't weigh as much as an elephant.

FlorianS

Re: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2026, 09:32:45 AM »
The specs say it uses full T1000 carbon 🤣 but yeah... If that were really the case, the bike wouldn't weigh as much as an elephant.
Wasn’t there some Chinese brand basically saying that they’re all “using T1000” but actually nobody is really using that? Most frames are layed up with T700/T800 regardless of what the spec sheet says.

Edit: Just adding to that: The manufacturer of the frames (Long Teng) states that the frames are all T800 Carbon, while Mondince claim it's T1000. TanTan at least on the GR201 claims T800 + T1000, maybe T1000 for the handlebars, not sure.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2026, 08:05:58 AM by FlorianS »

stretchko

Re: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement
« Reply #54 on: Today at 05:50:14 AM »
Is the headset compatible with FSA ACR? I’m considering mounting an HBR 017 on it.

Dan S.

Re: New TAN TAN Frame X68 Replacement
« Reply #55 on: Today at 06:18:19 AM »
Wasn’t there some Chinese brand basically saying that they’re all “using T1000” but actually nobody is really using that? Most frames are layed up with T700/T800 regardless of what the spec sheet says.

Edit: Just adding to that: The manufacturer of the frames (Long Teng) states that the frames are all T800 Carbon, while Mondince claim it's T1000. TanTan at least on the GR201 claims T800 + T1000, maybe T1000 for the handlebars, not sure.

No frame is 100% T1000, someone in some thread around here pointed out the frame would be too brittle.