Author Topic: Evolve Cima GR build / tire clearance  (Read 3267 times)

JackWatts

Re: Evolve Cima GR build / tire clearance
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2026, 04:21:12 PM »
I'm the one who posted on WW, and stumbled across this thread.  A couple of quick things:

-I hadn't even assembled the bike when someone asked about the Di2 port for the FD, which I hadn't seen. When I finally built the bike I discovered it, and updated my post on WW. I have no intentions of running Shimano on this bike so I hadn't really even thought about it. Plus, I was busy test fitting a ton of tires on different wheels...

-Regarding the tire size, some folks here are missing the point.  The choke point is not the width, it's clearance at the tread cap. "I tried 44's or 45's and had x clearance" doesn't really mean anything...  The seat stays taper in--pretty severely--towards the top. As a result, the first 50c tire I tried, a 50c RX Pro, was actually hitting the frame at the tread cap on one side on a 32i rim. It measured over 50mm, so I fit it to a 25i rim. The clearance was still no where near adequate. Clearance at the sidewall is absolutely fine, but as tires get wider, they get taller, this choke point moves up the stay, and the sides of the tread cap are perilously close to the stays.  It's a simple geometry problem. It's also why extrapolating clearance on a 44c tire and thinking "oh, a 50 will fit" is just not at all useful.

There are some 50c tires that will fit, not question; however, many of the most commonly used 50's will not.  They are passing that info along, which is great, and I know they are doing some of their own testing as well. Note that my bike is a size M, and since the other sizes are using different molds, it's possible this may be different on other sizes.  I can only speak to my frame.

One last thing to note, these are all static measurements. I have yet to encounter a gravel tire without some runout at the tread cap. Some are worse than others, but 1mm seems to be the minimum.  That means that 2.75mm of clearance becomes 1.75mm--or less, depending on the tire. The runout is always going to be significantly worse at the tread cap than the sidewall, exacerbating the problem.

A first they were honestly a bit dismissive (not the CS rep, but their engineering team) until I pushed back, and then they dug a bit deeper and realized I wasn't just making things up. They revised their recommendations, which is great. They are also doing some more testing, and I recommended they test a few specific tires to possibly come up with a list of tires they can recommend for those looking for a 50c tire in the rear.  All of this is regarding clearance on the rear; the front meets the originally published spec of 50mm with 6mm of clearance, and while it's a bit tighter at the crown I found it adequate with both a Dub and RX Pro in a 50 on a 32i rim, so I have no issues there.

Big picture, the bike will work great for me, which is why I'll deal with not being able to use my favorite rear tire, the RX Pro in a 50. I have another gravel bike with more clearance, but this bike will see dual duty when I'm traveling, and I'm just as likely to do a crit race on it as a gravel race, so it's a tradeoff work making. For those who want more clearance though and for those looking at fitting a MTB tire or 55 gravel tire, they should look elsewhere. I think it's just good for people to understand the limitations, because they are real, and as I mentioned to them I think it's pretty key that they set customer expectations up front. It's just better for everyone involved.

As far as the comment about it being an aero gravel bike: well, so is the new Factor, Crux 5, Scott Addict, XMCS, Tavelo Grow, new Grail, etc....   The fact is that the aero gravel market right now seems to prioritize big tire clearance, so in that sense this bike is going to be hamstrung a bit by the tire clearance issue.

Matsuo

Re: Evolve Cima GR build / tire clearance
« Reply #31 on: Today at 02:09:39 AM »
@JackWatts

Thank you for your clear statement, and especially for all the testing and checks you did with various tires.
I've also tried the G-One RS, R Pro, and Pathfinder on the rear wheel, reporting the results back to Evolve each time.

I have absolutely nothing to add to your conclusion—it matches my current experience exactly. I’m going to race the Cima GR, but for multi-day tours, I’ll stick to my other gravel bike.

What’s left is a slight disappointment with a bit of a bitter aftertaste. Sure, it would have been great to mount a Dubnital depending on the situation, but it is what it is now. You take on a little bit of risk when buying online and factory-direct from China.

Plus, this is Evolve’s first gravel bike, and I’m sure they’ll take our feedback seriously and incorporate it into future developments. Last but not least, they’ve already updated the tire recommendation on their website:

https://www.evolvebicycles.com/gravel-help-faqs/

« Last Edit: Today at 02:16:49 AM by Matsuo »

JackWatts

Re: Evolve Cima GR build / tire clearance
« Reply #32 on: Today at 05:58:14 AM »
I don't have a G-One RS and was wondering specially about that tire--how is clearance on it?

I'm considering trying a 48 Swampero on the rear. I do a ton of very loose, steep climbing, which is why I'm a fan of the RXPro on the rear. This may be a suitable alternative, or I'll just run the 45 RX Pro.

Truth is, I could have returned the frame and gotten something else, so I can't really complain at this point even if I wish it had more clearance. There are so many other positives for me; the geometry, the availability of a -5 setback forward seatpost, the weight (not just the frame but all of the peripheral parts), the fact that it's probably as aero as my Spear road bike, and the really high build quality.  Plus, I can buy a backup frame for the price of a Crux 5 if I wear through the seat stays...

Part of me thinks they should shift the marketing of this to "all-road/gravel" and go all in on a 32" aero gravel bike, because that's where the market is headed, imo.


Matsuo

Re: Evolve Cima GR build / tire clearance
« Reply #33 on: Today at 06:54:31 AM »
I don't have a G-One RS and was wondering specially about that tire--how is clearance on it?

I'm considering trying a 48 Swampero on the rear. I do a ton of very loose, steep climbing, which is why I'm a fan of the RXPro on the rear. This may be a suitable alternative, or I'll just run the 45 RX Pro.

Truth is, I could have returned the frame and gotten something else, so I can't really complain at this point even if I wish it had more clearance. There are so many other positives for me; the geometry, the availability of a -5 setback forward seatpost, the weight (not just the frame but all of the peripheral parts), the fact that it's probably as aero as my Spear road bike, and the really high build quality.  Plus, I can buy a backup frame for the price of a Crux 5 if I wear through the seat stays...

Part of me thinks they should shift the marketing of this to "all-road/gravel" and go all in on a 32" aero gravel bike, because that's where the market is headed, imo.

Yes, that's true—the pros definitely outweigh the cons for me as well. Great geometry, and the bike fits like a glove from the very first moment. I'll mount the G-One RS on the rear again and post a picture in the thread. Here’s the current setup with Pathfinder 50s front and rear


NeggieCycle

Re: Evolve Cima GR build / tire clearance
« Reply #34 on: Today at 08:00:46 AM »
I was eagerly await my frame to arrive, i've preordered the moment i could. At the time it said the lead time was 20-30 days, which would be around this time. Now i heard it has been pushed back 3 months:
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The extended lead time applies to orders placed under our promotional pricing, and the 3-month timeline starts counting from your order date.

We are working hard to resolve the production backlog, and there are multiple factors contributing to the extended schedule including frame production, paint finishing and component coordination.

This is really surprising to me, especially "the orders placed under our promotional pricing" part. Anyone received anything similar?

gbrnole

Re: Evolve Cima GR build / tire clearance
« Reply #35 on: Today at 03:32:57 PM »
Yes, that's true—the pros definitely outweigh the cons for me as well. Great geometry, and the bike fits like a glove from the very first moment. I'll mount the G-One RS on the rear again and post a picture in the thread. Here’s the current setup with Pathfinder 50s front and rear

i may have missed it elsewhere in this thread but have you measured the actual inflated width of the Pathfinder 50's? i'm assuming on your 24 mm internal width rims that they're coming in right at or just a hair under 50 mm?