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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: joegal on February 19, 2025, 02:15:48 AM
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Just saw this new frame, Looks interesting.
Super light Disc Aero frame
Frame: TT-X65 (disc road frame )
Axle:100*12mm,142*12mm
Material: Full Toray T1000
BB: T47 thread
Headset: 1-/2" (Top ),1-/2" (Down)
Sizes:45/48/50/52/54/56cm
Frame Weight : 1037/+-40g(50cm)
Fork Weight : 447/+-40g
Seatpost Weight : 195/+-20g
Max Tire Size: 700*32C
http://tantancycling.com/index.php?_m=mod_product&_a=view&p_id=1185
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You find also an InstaReel from Viviantian about the Frame https://www.instagram.com/share/BAM9V1fpsq
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1Love they always say superlight lol at 1037g +/- 40g! Think it looks ok but always better when you get to see fully built
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I really think they should stop calling everything Super light / ligthweight when it isn't. I mean, for a full out aero frame it is not bad, but superlight is not what it is. Furthermore, the weigth is mentioned for the babysize triple xs. Average size (52 / 54 / 56) will be a bit heavier, making it go to 1100/1200gr probably. [edit] fair enough, as pointed out below, size S is closer to 52, not that small, but still not lightweight by any means [/edit]
The seatpost/sadle clamp looks different. Not sure whether I like that, but visually better than the TT-style sliding rail (like the x38 foil-clones).
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Beautiful frame. Looks very similar to the Winspace C5 Aero. However, it has minimal differences in geometry.
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I really think they should stop calling everything Super light / ligthweight when it isn't. I mean, for a full out aero frame it is not bad, but superlight is not what it is. Furthermore, the weigth is mentioned for the babysize triple xs. Average size (52 / 54 / 56) will be a bit heavier, making it go to 1100/1200gr probably.
The seatpost/sadle clamp looks different. Not sure whether I like that, but visually better than the TT-style sliding rail (like the x38 foil-clones).
The advertised weight is for size 50/M, which is a closer to traditional size S/52
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That seatpost is just unnecessary, just make a simple 0 offset 2 bolt, idk why they're making it so bulky and complicated. Rear end came straight from bross zenith but that's fine. Bb area should be deeper for an aero bike. Fork design and integration leaves much to be desired compared to big brands, but I guess it's pretty good for a cheap, unbranded frame with limited development. Probably one of the better cheap aero bikes, we're starting to get somewhere
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Pretty god for cheap I confirmed the price with TanTan: T-X65 frame 359usd/set . include frame+fork+seatpost+headset
There's another new frame X-67.
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Pretty god for cheap I confirmed the price with TanTan: T-X65 frame 359usd/set . include frame+fork+seatpost+headset
There's another new frame X-67.
I'd actually prefer the look of the X67 if it lost the stupid channels on top of the seatstay connection. This makes it look like they are just trying to copy the seka spear but only had 2 minutes to come up with the design.
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The advertised weight is for size 50/M, which is a closer to traditional size S/52
Touché, I take that back. Rest still stands :)
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Pretty god for cheap I confirmed the price with TanTan: T-X65 frame 359usd/set . include frame+fork+seatpost+headset
There's another new frame X-67.
That price makes no sense
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-The bottom bracket and downtube design of their X38 (Scott Foil clone)
-Seatpost/clamp design of their X34 (Trek Madone clone)
-Channeled seatstays and fork resembling some other brand I'm sure.
Overall it looks like the sum of all leftover design elements bonded together. Not a bad looking frame however.
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That price makes no sense
Doesn't include handlebar likely so pushes price down a bit. Plus u add paint and shipping
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Doesn't include handlebar likely so pushes price down a bit. Plus u add paint and shipping
Correct
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If this makes its way to an outfit that does a good job with paint (Tideace?) I'd definitely consider this. Nice looking frame.
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Is there any chance of getting pictures of an assembled frame in size M (50)?
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Is there any chance of getting pictures of an assembled frame in size M (50)?
Near zero, I think its a too small time window, not even one frame shipped yet i think
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Would love to see a picture of the headtube front on.
Together with some eye-balling of the deepness of tubes it is the best estimator we have of aero-performance of these really low budget frames (imho).
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Long time lurker here. Figured I’d update this thread with my experience.
Ordered an extra small version, plain matte black finish, of this frame April 8th. Shipped out to me and I received early June, according to expected lead times. Packaging was just fine and frame looks good. Clean carbon inside and out. Little bit of overspray on the bb but nothing that can’t be easily cleaned up. Plenty of tire clearance to help try and squeeze in a little comfort in this deep tubed aero frame.
Going to be building up with combo of new rival shifters, 1X Leese carbon crank, and Zen carbon 50/60 wheels. Should come in right around 7 kgs. Hope to finish the build within the next month as I wait for more parts to arrive. Will update then.
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Long time lurker here. Figured I’d update this thread with my experience.
Ordered an extra small version, plain matte black finish, of this frame April 8th. Shipped out to me and I received early June, according to expected lead times. Packaging was just fine and frame looks good. Clean carbon inside and out. Little bit of overspray on the bb but nothing that can’t be easily cleaned up. Plenty of tire clearance to help try and squeeze in a little comfort in this deep tubed aero frame.
Going to be building up with combo of new rival shifters, 1X Leese carbon crank, and Zen carbon 50/60 wheels. Should come in right around 7 kgs. Hope to finish the build within the next month as I wait for more parts to arrive. Will update then.
Thanks so much for the photos! Looking very nice! Would you mind sharing how much you paid for the frame all in(ie: was it $359, or charged extra for paint)?
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Long time lurker here. Figured I’d update this thread with my experience.
Ordered an extra small version, plain matte black finish, of this frame April 8th. Shipped out to me and I received early June, according to expected lead times. Packaging was just fine and frame looks good. Clean carbon inside and out. Little bit of overspray on the bb but nothing that can’t be easily cleaned up. Plenty of tire clearance to help try and squeeze in a little comfort in this deep tubed aero frame.
Going to be building up with combo of new rival shifters, 1X Leese carbon crank, and Zen carbon 50/60 wheels. Should come in right around 7 kgs. Hope to finish the build within the next month as I wait for more parts to arrive. Will update then.
Thanks for the pictures, indeed looks very nice. Also nice toes on that last pic! ;D
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Pretty god for cheap I confirmed the price with TanTan: T-X65 frame 359usd/set . include frame+fork+seatpost+headset
There's another new frame X-67.
Seems too low that it makes me suspicious, if corners are being cut
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Thanks so much for the photos! Looking very nice! Would you mind sharing how much you paid for the frame all in(ie: was it $359, or charged extra for paint)?
Yes frame, seat post and fork was $359. They really wanted to sell me a one piece bar and asked multiple times if I wanted a custom paint job. Quote was $459 for bar and spacers included, shipping to US was $130 and then custom paint job was only $100 I think. But I just chose matte black standard finish.
Oh and thruaxle was another $20, headset bearings would have been $10 (sourced my own)
As far as quality, if this frame weighed 700g I might have concerns. But at 1100g frame and 490g (uncut) fork I’m not too concerned. Time will tell.
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Have you already finished the build?
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Strongly considering this one.
Any reviews out there?
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This is on my short list - I'm tackling a 24hr race next year on a pretty flat, tarmaced, race car circuit - just lap after lap for 24hrs 🤦🏼♂️😂 - and I'm looking for something more appropriate than my current gravel bike 😂.
Anyway, I can't even find any pictures of this frame with wheels on it 😂 never mind an actual review. Info on this and the X67 is pretty scant. I had decided on the X34 but apparently its discontinued now. I've asked if the X68 is still an option. Waiting to hear back.
so if anyone has any pics - it would be appreciated.
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Apologies for not posting an update. Have not been riding as much lately with life and work and all. But I do have about 750 miles (1,200km) on this frame and build now.
Long story short, I am very happy with the frame a would buy again.
It is very stiff, yet more comfortable than my previous bike (likely due to 30/32mm tires). Others who tried it have said power very translates directly to foreword motion and I would agree. Big fan of newer sram rival shifters. The brake feel and ergonomics are great IMO. Bike feels planted but agile on descend and sprints, individual bar setup will heavily affect though. (I just trimmed my donut holder last weekend, don’t have newer pictures) The Zen wheels have been fantastic as well.
No major issues or complaints. I have a little bit of recurring brake rub on the front rotor. But part of that may just be setup error on my part. The seat post design isn’t the easiest to adjust fit on, but not impossible. I do wish there was a zero offset post, but confirmed with Jessie last week that there is not one available. Not a deal breaker though, would just like to get hips a little further forward.
A lot of personal experience vs tangible numbers. But certainly has not held me back at all for any KOM’s or town line sprints. I’m a happy customer and would order again if I crashed and broke the frame. Hard to argue with the value vs. performance in my opinion. Looking foreword to racing it next year.
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Looks really great. Which bars are these?
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Just ordered a size xxl.
Will keep you all posted upon arrival
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I have the bikedoc bars on this bike and my older build. I think they are HB24 model, or just there generic road bar. 320 tops and 380 drops. Nice and stiff and wide enough tops for some decent support in my arms. I’m a shorter rider though.
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Just ordered a size xxl.
Will keep you all posted upon arrival
Wondering if the package arrived before Christmas chaos. Much appreciated if you could keep us updated :)
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Wondering if the package arrived before Christmas chaos. Much appreciated if you could keep us updated :)
Still waiting. The frame has not been shipped yet do to some error in their painting..
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My frame has now been painted and will be shipped out very soon.
Some photos
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kXgfvKHgFWv77orv6
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My frame has now been painted and will be shipped out very soon.
Some photos
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kXgfvKHgFWv77orv6
Looks really nice! what's the frame size you're running?
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Looks really nice! what's the frame size you're running?
Thx! So excited.
Its an xxl /560
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Thx! So excited.
Its an xxl /560
Can’t wait to see the full build! What are you going to spec the frame with?
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This frame looks really nice.
I am likely going to pull the trigger on a XXL 56CM Matt Black version.
Does anyone know if it’s possible to adjust saddle tilt on this type of seat post?
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Yes, you can adjust tilt.
It is a single screw fastener/adjustment design. (See screw in far right side of scale shot) Which is not my favorite. But so far I have no complaints. Added a little carbon paste and have only had the seat post tilt once on an initial test ride, increased the torque a little and no issues since.
Also added some new bottles/cages over the holidays. They fit quite nicely on my XS frame.
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Thank you!
I placed my order today!
Your aero bottles look great funnily enough I added the exact bottles to my
cart, great to see how they look on the frame!
Do you happen to know the exact type of T47 Bottom Bracket that’s compatible with this x65 frame?
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Can’t wait to see the full build! What are you going to spec the frame with?
I am really looking forward to it as well.
I will build it up like this:
HB: Lightcarbon HBR17 38/120
Wheels: Yoeleo NXT SL2 60mm
Saddle: Specialized power S-works mirror
Hoods&Calipers: Sram Red E1
RD: Sram force E1
Crankset: TBD (I have a Magene PES P515 lying around, prob gonna start with that)
Chainring: 1x Passquest 50t
Casette: Sram AXS 36t
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I am really looking forward to it as well.
I will build it up like this:
HB: Lightcarbon HBR17 38/120
Wheels: Yoeleo NXT SL2 60mm
Saddle: Specialized power S-works mirror
Hoods&Calipers: Sram Red E1
RD: Sram force E1
Crankset: TBD (I have a Magene PES P515 lying around, prob gonna start with that)
Chainring: 1x Passquest 50t
Casette: Sram AXS 36t
How’s the bike build coming along?
Strongly considering buying one, but would love to see one built in larger sizes. Cheers!
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How’s the bike build coming along?
Strongly considering buying one, but would love to see one built in larger sizes. Cheers!
Still waiting for delivery. Should have left China on the 14th. Hopefully I will receive it soon
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I ordered mine via the Serap Ali Store on Jan 6 for XXL x65. Still waiting for it to be dispatched. Last update I got was it was in paint stage and the Rep said there are delays because there have been so many orders
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So my frame has arrived and the build will start in coming weeks. X65 Frame in XXL (560) - ordered early December - arrived last week (4th Feb 26) So about 8 weeks in all. No customs or duty when delivered to Ireland.
I got some Helix Elite Wheels to go with it, a Pass Quest Chainring and Magene Power Meter. Plan is a X1 setup as its a build specifically for a 24hr race I'm doing in summer and its laps around a car race track, so no climbing. Also probably just gonna use cable brakes connected to ZTTO or ONRI hydrolic callipers paired with LTWOO GR9 1x 11 (because I already have it) - simple and basic but thats all I need for this project. A cable based system might be easier to repair on the day if I have an issues.
The facing on the BB and the brake mounts seems a lot better than the last frame I got (GR201) but I haven't actually fully bolted everything on yet and gone riding so time will tell a better story.
I'm not a big fan of the saddle mount system, I'm sure I'll get used to it, but straight away there is no way the RYET saddle I bought for this build will fit. No matter what I tried their is no enough room between the saddle rail and the saddle to fit the upper part of the clamp system.
So thats the inital thoughts. Paint job is very good almost all over, but woudln't pass QC at a high end brand. A few aeras could be better but not enough for me personally to be bothered - you kinda get what you pay for I guess. And no one is realisticly gonna notice in day to day use.
I'm gonna do the livery on the downtube myself as I didn't want what I'm putting there to be there permanently after I'm fnished the race in the summer.
Some silver circualr shims arrived with it that fit the steering tube perfectly - but I'm not sure where they are supposed to go. SO if anyone can shed any light that would be great.
I'll post a pic of all bits and pieces that came with later.
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So my frame has arrived and the build will start in coming weeks. X65 Frame in XXL (560) - ordered early December - arrived last week (4th Feb 26) So about 8 weeks in all. No customs or duty when delivered to Ireland.
I got some Helix Elite Wheels to go with it, a Pass Quest Chainring and Magene Power Meter. Plan is a X1 setup as its a build specifically for a 24hr race I'm doing in summer and its laps around a car race track, so no climbing. Also probably just gonna use cable brakes connected to ZTTO or ONRI hydrolic callipers paired with LTWOO GR9 1x 11 (because I already have it) - simple and basic but thats all I need for this project. A cable based system might be easier to repair on the day if I have an issues.
The facing on the BB and the brake mounts seems a lot better than the last frame I got (GR201) but I haven't actually fully bolted everything on yet and gone riding so time will tell a better story.
I'm not a big fan of the saddle mount system, I'm sure I'll get used to it, but straight away there is no way the RYET saddle I bought for this build will fit. No matter what I tried their is no enough room between the saddle rail and the saddle to fit the upper part of the clamp system.
So.
Hey mate what Ryet Saddle did you order?
My XXL Frame is due to arrive this week and I already purchased a saddle for it, Ryet .
Bike looks great !
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See attached. I can't find a way to make it fit 😂
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Finally started building up the bike this weekend.
Everything is going smooth so far.
Total weight without DOT fluid and bar tape is 7,48
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Finally started building up the bike this weekend.
Everything is going smooth so far.
Total weight without DOT fluid and bar tape is 7,48
It looks very good. What exact shade of purple is that? I could imagine the frame being completely in that color.
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Finally started building up the bike this weekend.
Everything is going smooth so far.
Total weight without DOT fluid and bar tape is 7,48
Sir I need to warn you
That you have there a sexy weapon !!!
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It looks very good. What exact shade of purple is that? I could imagine the frame being completely in that color.
Thanks!
The purple color is ys-3400
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Sir I need to warn you
That you have there a sexy weapon !!!
Haha. I am so happy how it turned out!
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So my frame has arrived and the build will start in coming weeks. X65 Frame in XXL (560) - ordered early December - arrived last week (4th Feb 26) So about 8 weeks in all. No customs or duty when delivered to Ireland.
I got some Helix Elite Wheels to go with it, a Pass Quest Chainring and Magene Power Meter. Plan is a X1 setup as its a build specifically for a 24hr race I'm doing in summer and its laps around a car race track, so no climbing. Also probably just gonna use cable brakes connected to ZTTO or ONRI hydrolic callipers paired with LTWOO GR9 1x 11 (because I already have it) - simple and basic but thats all I need for this project. A cable based system might be easier to repair on the day if I have an issues.
The facing on the BB and the brake mounts seems a lot better than the last frame I got (GR201) but I haven't actually fully bolted everything on yet and gone riding so time will tell a better story.
I'm not a big fan of the saddle mount system, I'm sure I'll get used to it, but straight away there is no way the RYET saddle I bought for this build will fit. No matter what I tried their is no enough room between the saddle rail and the saddle to fit the upper part of the clamp system.
So thats the inital thoughts. Paint job is very good almost all over, but woudln't pass QC at a high end brand. A few aeras could be better but not enough for me personally to be bothered - you kinda get what you pay for I guess. And no one is realisticly gonna notice in day to day use.
I'm gonna do the livery on the downtube myself as I didn't want what I'm putting there to be there permanently after I'm fnished the race in the summer.
Some silver circualr shims arrived with it that fit the steering tube perfectly - but I'm not sure where they are supposed to go. SO if anyone can shed any light that would be great.
I'll post a pic of all bits and pieces that came with later.
Hey mate there should be two saddle parts one for smaller diameter saddle rails and one for larger, happened to me but I checked the contents and found the part and my Ryet saddle fits! If you didn’t get one, email the seller mate.
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Hey mate there should be two saddle parts one for smaller diameter saddle rails and one for larger, happened to me but I checked the contents and found the part and my Ryet saddle fits! If you didn’t get one, email the seller mate.
I'll have another look - there were two adapaters, I though one was for round bars and one for oval. I tried both but just not enough clearance in the saddle. I'll check again tommorow and take some pics. I think there are a lot of varities of those Ryet Saddles.
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Another little update on my build that might help someone.
So for the event I'm buiding this bike for (a 24hr event) I wanted to fit my Redshift Stem and Bars for a bit of comfort. That meant using a different headset to accomodate a standard stem but allow the internal cables to exit through the headset. On the GR201 I built last year the Ritchy Headset system worked a treat. I tried to reuse that on this build but the depth of the headtube where the bearing goes is shallower on this frame than the GR201 so the Ritchy system left a big gap as the C ring was too tall.
I ordered a Zitto system that does the same thing but had a shorter C Ring.
Hope that makes sense - might help someone wanting to do something similar.
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Been out on a few rides with the final build now and it’s fantastic. I’ve had no issues other than some brake rub due to the usual brake facing issues (same as last frame I got from
TanTan) some patience and some minor adjusting (filing the paint) and it gets sorted. But other than that I can’t complain. Gets up to speed real easy and holds it nicely. It’s a quirky build with the 1X and Redshift Suspension Stem and Kitchen Sink bar but that’s just for this one off event and then I’ll stick the integrated cockpit on & convert to 2x.
But I’m loving the build, the ride is smooth and no crazy noises or rattling coming from anywhere. I’ve found it very comfy, for me it’s that sweet spot right between relaxed geometry but bordering on aggressive for a more aero position but not so much that it would cripple you.
The handle bar is also great for the hand grip comfort and amount of hand positions you can adopt on a long ride.
Very happy with this one. Just the decal on the down tube to do and rewrap the bar with the correct tape. I might buy new hoses as the brake hoses from the donor bike are just a tad short - which is why I didn’t use the new bar tape on the bars - might just fit new ones to finish it off right.
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Leaving a mark here to keep the forum updated, also ordered this frame.
Went for size XXL/56, with a 380-120mm bar and custom paint. Lead time i was told is 20-25 days + painting 1 month + shipping (15-30 days).
All in all with the paint +"DPD shipping" the conversion rate ended up being 720 eur all-in-all.
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Does someone has a size XL to sell ?
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Got the first pictures of my frame and I must admit my first reaction is that I'm a bit dumbfounded...
The first note to add was that yesterday now long after the order was placed and agreed upon they told me that 380*120mm stem is not availiable and I'd have to choose between 400 or 420 - not a big deal I figured as I was planning on switching it out for another handlebar with an even longer stem anyways..
Now today I've received the pictures of my frame and for some unknown reason the seraph logo seems to have been placed so high on the downtube - to the point where it looks odd.
I will keep the forum updated on how this plays out from here..