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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: Ludo on June 14, 2025, 04:56:20 AM
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Just saw this new frame while browsing on their website. Looks pretty good, still need to compare geometry to current XC frames to get an idea of what it could be like to ride.
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I saw it last week.
I asked the seller for information.
Here's some pricing information they gave me:
FM358: $680
Headset: $15
Axle: $15
We will use WXY to ship to Spain; the shipping cost is $180/set. The price includes customs tax. You don't need to pay customs tax.
Total cost: $680 + $15 + $15 + $180 = $890 in UD matte or glossy black.
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looks sweet
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Looks like a canyon lux trail clone
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I think the brake caliper is flat-mount...
I was eager to try the frame, but I don't have that brake system. I'm a SRAM Level user.
I don't think many brands mount it like this.
Are there any flat-mount to post-mount adapters?
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I think the brake caliper is flat-mount...
I was eager to try the frame, but I don't have that brake system. I'm a SRAM Level user.
I don't think many brands mount it like this.
Are there any flat-mount to post-mount adapters?
You can use some of the sram road calipers. Here's an official compatibility chart. https://www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/compatibility-map/mtb-and-road-hydraulic-disc-brake-lever-and-caliper-compatibility.pdf (https://www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/compatibility-map/mtb-and-road-hydraulic-disc-brake-lever-and-caliper-compatibility.pdf)
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I think the brake caliper is flat-mount...
I was eager to try the frame, but I don't have that brake system. I'm a SRAM Level user.
I don't think many brands mount it like this.
Are there any flat-mount to post-mount adapters?
Yes, plenty of adapters.
Frame weight in M is 1910g, so no weightweenie hopefully sign of solid frame…
Still discussing with Helen, on the fence between that and the SPCycle M868. There is about $150 difference on favor of SPCycle but I visually prefer the Hongfu. As far as riding, both frames capabilities exceed my own…
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Anyone have a geo chart for this?
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First post, I put it there ;)
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Wow.... Long day I guess
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Wonder if they would be open to a different bb. Pressfit needs to die
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I would like to ask you if this adapter is compatible with your frame and if the flat mount clamp would not touch the chainstays.
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/ed/77/zDOLqT6l_t.jpg) (https://imgbox.com/zDOLqT6l)
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I am not sure either, i can ask their rep, Helen
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Thank you @ludo I'll be attentive and await your response.
It's true that I don't see post-mount calipers on MTB bikes in the Spanish market.
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A few fresh pix bellow. I think it is interesting option. Just wondering how about that storage door with attached a full water bottle to it.
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Looks really nice!
Regarding the storage, its the same solution as Orbea has i guess. I have a Occam SL with that Solution and it works perfectly fine!
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Just saw this new frame while browsing on their website. Looks pretty good, still need to compare geometry to current XC frames to get an idea of what it could be like to ride.
why does this bike call for a 210x55 rear shock? thats 135mm of rear travel and yet its 120/100 travel?
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How did you get to 135?
Canyon specify the same on the lux
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why does this bike call for a 210x55 rear shock? thats 135mm of rear travel and yet its 120/100 travel?
And on the Orbea Occam 210x55 gives 150mm travel
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It depends on leverage ratio of the given frame
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XC frame with 210x55 rear shock
Let's check out XC rear shocks
You can only fit FOX Float SL 210x55
RockShox doesn't have a SIDLuxe model in that size. Max is 210x50
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Deluxe ultimate available in that size I think
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Have also some more details about frame size.
210x5X shock is popular enough, there shouldn't be any problem to get it. The only thing is not so many of them with the remote.
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Correct a bit of a struggle… finalizing paint job details and i think i will order
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Cable routing only Headset or head tube also possible?
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Cable routing is only headset - I have asked that question already to sales team.
But I think there should not be a problem to DIY it Yourself.
Regards
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Anyone pulled the trigger yet?
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Ludo
I am waiting for You to buy it first :D
I have lcfs918, but prapobly will sell it, so I was thinking about LCFS980 or FM358. Priority is that frame must have room for two water bottles.
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Order should be placed this week…
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Interesting, nice looking frame. Anyone already knows how much the frame weighs?
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very nice indeed, i hope it weights under 2kg's though.
i see FM138 users are pretty happy with it, no broken frames or other issues isn't?
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1910g in M and no paint.
It’s not a light frame, but I would rather trade 200g for added reliability
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On the verge of ordering this.
I have asked in email about the post mount adapter compatibility, shock mount type (standard or trunnion), rear cable routing route, etc.
I'll post if and when I get an update. They have been responding pretty regularly so that's nice.
Prices quotes:
Frame: 680
Headset: 20
Axle: 15
Single color paint job: 100
Slow shipping (tariffs included): 190
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Order in for me.
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Some answers
The shock mount is standard not Trunnion.
I asked if the HA measurement was with a 100 or 120mm for but not sure they understood the question so I just got the usual: "The Fork travel:100/120mm"
Also got this answer from the flat to post mount adaptor question, again don't think they understood what I meant:
"It could not fit for a post mount brake, if need to change the disc brake mount, it will need to change the mold of this frameset."
I was told a month till the frames will be ready and 2-3 weeks to ship.
So would be a rather long wait.
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For me with a pretty specific paint job it’s 2 months lead time plus shipping.
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Are we sure that's 210x55 and not 210x50. Very limiting and very heavy shock options at 210x55 for an XC bike.
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Geo chart shows both.
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Little surprise, seems like they don’t have headset for this bike, it s 56mm ext ID bearings.
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56mm outer bearings? Isn't that the standard 52mm?
That's a problem when it comes to finding the right routing for both the cable routing and the bearings.
A downside to buying this frame.
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You are correct on 56 vs 52 standard. In the plus side that allow you to changing HT angle (accros) and presumably (I haven’t looked into it) more room for internal routing, gaining 2mm on the radius.
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Found this one from Chinese Brand Quick Bikes. They have a good rep on road frames as far as I know, with Chinese UCI teams riding their stuff.
This looks fairly similar to the FM358, both looks and geo (slightly off, for instance 66 degree HA)
Might give a hint on how the FM358 looks built up :) I for one like it (apart from that they seem to like headset spacers a bit too much)
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Yes saw that as well, i like it a lot!
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I asked quick pro for a quote, it was over 2k.
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Frame only?
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Frame only?
Correct
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Am I wrong or does the shock absorber appear to be mounted backwards?
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56mm outer bearings? Isn't that the standard 52mm?
That's a problem when it comes to finding the right routing for both the cable routing and the bearings.
A downside to buying this frame.
No, bearings are 52mm (outer ofcourse) top and bottom. I asked them and got this diagram
7mm high bearings and 45*45degrees :-)
I would like to try this frame, however, I'm really happy with my Carbonda 909 :-)
Just need something more xco oldschool(ish)
Cheers
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Am I wrong or does the shock absorber appear to be mounted backwards?
If your are think about the image of the Quick Bikes frame, i think the images shows a bike with Öhlins latest xc shock. The other images of frames on their website have regular looking shocks.
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You are correct on 56 vs 52 standard. In the plus side that allow you to changing HT angle (accros) and presumably (I haven’t looked into it) more room for internal routing, gaining 2mm on the radius.
Hot tip for you is to visit your local LBS that sells Scott bikes (if there is any). I talked to the guys at my local one, and they have plenty of spare 56mm headset cups in the workshop. So potentially you just buy the cups and use the same headset setup from your old bike.
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Thanks for the tip!
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Geometry
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This looks like an interesting frame but the info at the information on Hongfu's website is, to say the least, quite sparse.
Does anyone have more info about the frame? Has the frame been reviewed anywhere?
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Geometry wise it’s a lux trail
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Geometry wise it’s a lux trail
Not entirely, but very very close.
You can look at that bike to envision how this would look completed.
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What différence do you see in geometry? Even the headset is te lux trail, so are the shock bushing specs
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There are no difference it's a full copy see the other thread the guy had to make a custom ammo bushing because he can't find the real one, and he can't find it because it's a special bushing with a length that is made only for canyon
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Hi. Has anyone tested the suspension at full travel? It looks like a design flaw. The suspension mounting parts touch each other at about 70% of the travel and become damaged. The frame suspension stops there. Im using SIDLuxe 210x50 shock.
I emailed Zoe from HongFu about this issue.
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Les me check my frame, I actually took the bike out yesterday for the first proper ride,hit a couple of nice drop where I probably reach full travel.
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nothing like that on mine
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Hi. Has anyone tested the suspension at full travel? It looks like a design flaw. The suspension mounting parts touch each other at about 70% of the travel and become damaged. The frame suspension stops there. Im using SIDLuxe 210x50 shock.
I emailed Zoe from HongFu about this issue.
Yes, I share the same experience. Hongfu is sending me optimised aluminium linkages.
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I’ve cycled almost 1000km with the frame and it’s holding up incredibly well. I’m very happy with it. Next week I’ll race with it for five days to see how it performs.
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Can’t get over how great that tainted clear coat looks in sunlight, absolute beauty
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I conquered the Croatian rocks and gravel on this bike during an Epic series event. The conditions were perfect and I handled the rocks and stones incredibly well. I’m really pleased with the quality of the frame and the overall result.
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I placed 7th (and 2nd in age group) at the USA cross triathlon sprint on this bike, it was a fast ride in the rocks and handled a couple of 70-90cm drops really well, rider was the limiting factor!
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Hi. Has anyone tested the suspension at full travel? It looks like a design flaw. The suspension mounting parts touch each other at about 70% of the travel and become damaged. The frame suspension stops there. Im using SIDLuxe 210x50 shock.
I emailed Zoe from HongFu about this issue.
This is what HongFu sent me. Now i can build a working bike.
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That’s nice machbinijg but it seems that we should all have the issue.i need to check mine again
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Received the frame in February, and have done several rides in the meantime.
Frame is great, efficient and high quality, but also noticed mine is developing damages at exactly same spots at the suspension linkage hardware.
Surprised to see they just machined some material away, no finishing, paint or something.
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Received the frame in February, and have done several rides in the meantime.
Frame is great, efficient and high quality, but also noticed mine is developing damages at exactly same spots.
Surprised to see they just machined some material away, no finishing, paint or something.
I noticed that your rear shock lockout is located at the top. Did you have to remove some material from the bottom of the top tube?
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Well spotted a lot cleaner that way, I am not even sure I tried it that way!
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Well spotted indeed :)
It just fits, cable end cap is rubbing a bit against the frame, but should be good.
Ending up like this was also more coincidence than on purpose. Found a second hand Sidluxe A2 2P for only 80 euro. Since I wanted to use it with a 3P Squidlock (MP11) I had to rebuild, so ordered upgrade kit which always comes with In/Out remote cable hanger. Then during rebuilding I realised that I could combine the 3P hardware with the backside cable hanger that was already on the shock. So there we are, remote cable pulley and cable sit on top, nice and clean bike :)
I was surprised by flexibility and interchangeability of the Sidluxe A2 ‘platform’, there is many options, kits and servicing is pretty simple.
Rest of components is combination of Shimano XT and XTR (brakes, shifter, derailleur). Fork a second hand Rockshox Sid SL Ultimate 3P 110mm. Wheels are self-build with DT Swiss 240 hubs and 270gr 30mm inner width rims from Ali. Total weight of the bike will be somewhere just below 10,5kg.
Let me know if there’s other questions!
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Well spotted indeed :)
It just fits, cable end cap is rubbing a bit against the frame, but should be good.
Ending up like this was also more coincidence than on purpose. Found a second hand Sidluxe A2 2P for only 80 euro. Since I wanted to use it with a 3P Squidlock (MP11) I had to rebuild, so ordered upgrade kit which always comes with In/Out remote cable hanger. Then during rebuilding I realised that I could combine the 3P hardware with the backside cable hanger that was already on the shock. So there we are, remote cable pulley and cable sit on top, nice and clean bike :)
I was surprised by flexibility and interchangeability of the Sidluxe A2 ‘platform’, there is many options, kits and servicing is pretty simple.
Rest of components is combination of Shimano XT and XTR (brakes, shifter, derailleur). Fork a second hand Rockshox Sid SL Ultimate 3P 110mm. Wheels are self-build with DT Swiss 240 hubs and 270gr 30mm inner width rims from Ali. Total weight of the bike will be somewhere just below 10,5kg.
Let me know if there’s other questions!
Do you think a RockShox SID flight attendant rear shock with the battery location will prohibit a water bottle from fitting on the downtube (size L)? Looks like there is very little clearance on your current setup.
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Might be a challenge indeed, although my frame is size M. With this setup I can fit a regular (650 ml) and large (950 ml, as in the photo). But it barely fits, especially the regular is quite difficult to get out, I’m thinking to get another holder so i can take it from the side.
With additional flight attended unit, don’t know if there is enough space for a large bidon.
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Hi. Has anyone tested the suspension at full travel? It looks like a design flaw. The suspension mounting parts touch each other at about 70% of the travel and become damaged. The frame suspension stops there. Im using SIDLuxe 210x50 shock.
I emailed Zoe from HongFu about this issue.
Hi, what size is your frame? I'm curious if all sizes have this problem, because I don't see many complaints on other FM358 threads so I'm thinking that they may have only tested one size and just scaled the design for different sizes without actually testing.
Thanks!
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Hi, what size is your frame? I'm curious if all sizes have this problem, because I don't see many complaints on other FM358 threads so I'm thinking that they may have only tested one size and just scaled the design for different sizes without actually testing.
Thanks!
Hi, my frame size is M (17.5)
Now I have another problem. When the rear suspension compresses, the brake rotor rubbing the pads. This also occurs when the bike leans into corners. I think it's a rear triangle stiffness issue. I contacted HongFu two months ago, and since then they've only asked for a photo of the brake mount on the frame.
In this video i push down my chest on saddle two times
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Hi, my frame size is M (17.5)
Now I have another problem. When the rear suspension compresses, the brake rotor rubbing the pads. This also occurs when the bike leans into corners. I think it's a rear triangle stiffness issue. I contacted HongFu two months ago, and since then they've only asked for a photo of the brake mount on the frame.
In this video i push down my chest on saddle two times
Thanks! well seems like my theory was incorrect then, as others with M-sized frames have reported they do not have the problem with the linkage hardware bottoming out at 70% travel.
And yes, looking at your video, that looks like there is insufficient stiffness in the rear triangle.