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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: Ludo on July 11, 2025, 03:31:08 PM
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Well it’s a go, the frame is paid, just have to wait for a couple of months now.
I will be transferring most of everything from my hardtail onto this frame. Just ordered a rockshox SIDLuxe ultimate 3P in 210x50 for it and also looking for the matching SID SL 3P fork to match but I am ok to start with the SID SL I have now to start with.
The big unknown right now is the headset, need to research some more the options
Paint scheme as below, somewhat racing inspired (lotus, caterham…)
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I guess its the same setup as the lastest version of the Scott Spark?
This might work:https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/sv/syncros-zs56-28.6-zs56-40-mtb-styrlager/141631705/p?utm_source=google_products&utm_medium=merchant&id_producte=146073131&country=se&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19971358487&gbraid=0AAAAADvzHL_DZTbdKk0K5slyps_O9zgkz&gclid=Cj0KCQjwj8jDBhD1ARIsACRV2TuC0RXMzc5Qf1FFXye6feZEUoAHhtSCNACHHQe4wSwrLCBCYYiCPC0aApWmEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Or any brand fit to match the Scott Spark
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But the headset must come with the frame.
The quote they sent me included it for $15, as did the rear axle, also for $15.
I'm looking forward to it arriving so we can see it.
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No Helen messaged me, they don’t have a headset solution for it yet. Accros has one but it’s $130 so I would love to find something more cost effective. I think I found a ztto one, the question will
Be the integration with my syncros bar…
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I also need to find a dropper post, light and cheap-ish
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The oneup v3 dropper might fit your needs, around 540g for the 210mm version and currently about 200€ - not too bad in my opinion
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Is there a big improvement over the V2? I have found the V2 at really low price on Jenson IIRC
RaceFace turbine SL 100mm
https://www.jensonusa.com/race-face-turbine-sl-dropper-post-1
Sdg trellis 125mm
https://www.jensonusa.com/sdg-tellis-dropper-seatpost-1-9
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OK for your size the raceface seams like a really good deal. You could even tune the weight by using lightweight yoke parts (mix n match from carbon seat post)
OneUp v2 is like 50g heavier thru all sizes than the v3 version btw.
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Having a well-prepared frame and not having a headset designed for it doesn't give you confidence to buy.
I hope you find the headset for it, and that way you can guide other users.
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The canyon it’s based on has a headset that allow for Ht angle to be adjusted, not something available yet on Chinese market but it’s on the market. I will get one of the first frame, it comes with some inconvenient, I am ok to deal with that…
They are also working on sourcing, I don’t doubt they will figure something out.
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Well it’s a go, the frame is paid, just have to wait for a couple of months now.
I will be transferring most of everything from my hardtail onto this frame. Just ordered a rockshox SIDLuxe ultimate 3P in 210x50 for it and also looking for the matching SID SL 3P fork to match but I am ok to start with the SID SL I have now to start with.
The big unknown right now is the headset, need to research some more the options
Paint scheme as below, somewhat racing inspired (lotus, caterham…)
It looks like a good frame. What size did you choose?
I'm curious to see how the complete assembly turns out.
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I went for a large, I am 6ft
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Headset is a "normal" 52mm, 45degree, and 7mm tall
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Headset bearings are 52 but the cups are specific with alignement pins
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isn't headset like FSA NO. 55R as indicated in their website?
i'm also looking for this frame, but this heavily integrated cabling model is a thing that scares me a lot (carbonda fm936 happy customer here!), i'm keen to change brakes trying new ones etc etc so it's a choice i could regret, moreover i would also look for an electronic gearset to save one cable at least.
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Well it’s a go, the frame is paid, just have to wait for a couple of months now.
I will be transferring most of everything from my hardtail onto this frame. Just ordered a rockshox SIDLuxe ultimate 3P in 210x50 for it and also looking for the matching SID SL 3P fork to match but I am ok to start with the SID SL I have now to start with.
The big unknown right now is the headset, need to research some more the options
Paint scheme as below, somewhat racing inspired (lotus, caterham…)
Hi, do you already received the frame. I am also looking at this frame and wanted to hear your experience with this build with this frame. Thanks for your update.
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No, frame should be delivered in September
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Frame seems is built, now at the paint shop, can’t wait too see the finished result…
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Can someone please verify, that the frame has 120mm in the rear, and with what length of damper?
Cheers
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Painted frame!
Everything looks pretty clean
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Painted frame!
Everything looks pretty clean
Looks awesome what size is it?
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Large
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very nice I'm curious to see it assembled.
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Large
Please weight it when it comes to your home
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Painted frame!
Everything looks pretty clean
Hi, your frame intrigued me, especially the paintwork on the front.
You can see the paint, which is green but transparent. Is this a new technique? What's the name of this colored clear coat?
Thanks.
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Rear triangle is Matt good, front triangle and Just clear to show Carbon and Green. The Green is supposed to be solid but I wonder if they didn’t just put green in clear. I had that done I. My previous HT which was chameleon but light so that carbon would show through
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It really looks like they put a drop of green in the clear coat.
I've already seen a few frames done this way.
It's nice, it doesn't look bad.
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Yes if it’s what they did it would be perfectly fine with me
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Nice frame! How about the rear shock, how much travel will you have?
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I expect to be at 100mm which for me is plenty based on where I ride.
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if they promise 120 with the 190x45 shock absorber I would expect them to actually do it
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Ordered the raceface turbine SL 100mm dropper, rockshox raceday 2 3 position damper for the SL ultimate fork to match with the shock I got
The shock is a 50mm so should be getting 100-110mm travel vs the stated 120mm achieved with 55mm travel shock.
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Yes, it's true, they recommend 210x55. I confused that in the previous post. You'll have to test it yourself and you'll find out.
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Yes, sounds like it. This is my first FS, I am looking forward to the built. Trying to get them to send me along with the frame and extra set of bearings for the pivot points.
One thing I am struggling with right now is the shock bushing: 1 is M8x30 and pretty coming, the other one is M8x16.8mm which seems odd and hats to find. Considering the original design is canyon, I am surprised it’s not proper metric size at 16 or 17mm
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Ok, just received the frame and it look fantastic in person. The clear coat with green hue or pure clear shows the UD carbon perfect, the Matt gold rear triangle looks great too! I wasn’t ready for it to show already so I am missing a few parts that I need to source, including rear shock spacers
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Inside looks really clean, Bb bracket are too.
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Hello, do you have any news about the project?
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Not yet, I have been traveling a lot lately so not much time to play at hone
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Is this the only chinese XC / downcountry frame with an internal storage on the downtube?
I've tried to search around but couldn't find anything else
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It may well be. Personally I have some concerns around that. The bottle cage will be mounted to it, I am not sure the locking mechanism will be strong enough to hold that load and take the repeated beating without developing play eventually…
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Finally gave in and ordered custom bushings from offset bushing for the rear shock at the eye wateeing price of $70
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Did I miss something? Did you have to have bushings made with an eccentric center hole? Why?
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The bushing on the yoke seems to be proprietary to canyon, 16.8mm long, couldn’t find it
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The bushing on the yoke seems to be proprietary to canyon, 16.8mm long, couldn’t find it
it must be said that when they copy, they also copy unpleasing features
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Yes, same for headset. It would have been a lot smarter to engineer out the stuff that is non value adding and stick with standard. Wasn’t even that hard, 16.5mm is widely available, just leave 0.15mm on both face of the yoke when doing the machining…
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can you share the headset you orderd
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Could only find one, the acros…
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The bushing on the yoke seems to be proprietary to canyon, 16.8mm long, couldn’t find it
Hi, I’ve bought Rockshox 1x M8x30 for the front and 1x M8x16mm for the rear. I’ve filed the rear gap with stainless steel shims of 0.2mm (four shims) as shown in this link: https://www.bike24.com/p2497120.html (https://www.bike24.com/p2497120.html)
At the front, the rings aren’t symmetrical and vary in thickness. Perhaps they were incorrectly packed? See the pictures.
I’m using it with the ROCKSHOX SIDLUXE ULTIMATE 3P SOLO AIR REMOTE SHOCK 210x50.
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Could only find one, the acros…
The frame comes with a complete Acros headset.
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I’ll check tomorrow on mine.
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For me, the solution is simple and inexpensive. I acquired a second M8X30mm. They’re always packed asymmetrically.
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I received the bushing from offset and started the build last night:
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Well, seriously struggling running the shifter cable housing in rear triangle, i may have to split it from the frame to have a chance. The chain stay is super narrow
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Got it!
Brake hose was run from wheel to head tube
Shifter cable house was introduced by the front of the rear triangle (from the opposite side from the hole) and pushed to the derailleur exit (fished it with a pic), pulled almost all the way in the rear triangle and then pushed back to the front guiding it in the front triangle with pliers
Not a whole lot of fun on that one but it’s done
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Got it!
Brake hose was run from wheel to head tube
Shifter cable house was introduced by the front of the rear triangle (from the opposite side from the hole) and pushed to the derailleur exit (fished it with a pic), pulled almost all the way in the rear triangle and then pushed back to the front guiding it in the front triangle with pliers
Not a whole lot of fun on that one but it’s done
When you swing the rear triangle up, it gives you extra room at the bottom bracket area to route the cables into the rear triangle.
Saddle clamp check tip. I received a 35mm clamp from Hongfu while the opening in the frame is 36.5 mm.
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Yes I just saw for the seat clamp! I haven’t emailed them yet, did they send you a new one?
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I recently bought a 36.4mm seatpost clamp. Because I’m planning to ride with Christmas. 😀
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I emailed them and they have the 36.4 and sending one my way. Helen is really great to deal with. I also ordered one from Amazon, delivery tomorrow, so I can move the build along. Hopefully I’ll finish the build this weekend, all I need to do now is rob the parts from my other bike
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I recently bought a 36.4mm seatpost clamp. Because I’m planning to ride with Christmas. 😀
Are you running an adaptor for rear brake caliper mount? I got this one but it looks like it moved the caliper for a 180mm disc, not 160:
I just found this on AliExpress: $23.25 | EVOSID Gravel Bike Flat Mount To Fost Mount Brake Adapter Front Rear 160mm Change Road Standard To MTB Specs Bicycle Accessories
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0eF7QN
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To use a 160mm rotor on an MTB frame, you need an FM to PM 140mm adapter. This adapter provides zero offset.
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Yes that’s what I figured. I Will tell helen to add that to their description.
Thanks for the help! I may have a 180mm rotor in one of the parts box, need to look into it.
Edit: looking at my aliexpress purchase history i definitely have some 180mm rotors in part boxes, so I am good to proceed with the built.
Front end assembly tonight and brake line flush, should be able to go on a test ride this weekend.
I have to admit i have really mixed feelings, excited for the new built but sad to take apart my first chiner…
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another little issue, the thry axle bolt head is too big diameter to slide in the recess in the brake side chainstay. I used the TA from my SPcycle, worked fine, but be careful, if you try to use as is it will more than likely come lose and potentially damge your paint.
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First weight taken tonight at 10.3kg with nobby tires, heavy ass pedals, power meter but without the chain. I think i can probably get the weight at 10-10.1kg with summer XC tires which would be phenomenal I think!
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First weight taken tonight at 10.3kg with nobby tires, heavy ass pedals, power meter but without the chain. I think i can probably get the weight at 10-10.1kg with summer XC tires which would be phenomenal I think!
that's awesome, please share pictures!
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Yes finished a bit late last night for pictures, still left to do:
Cable for rear shock control
Flush the brake lines
Put a chain on it
Cut the stickers and put the PPF on it
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A couple more things to do but getting close. Need to research more on dripper post, not pleased with how I did it, and rear shock to be cabled.
Also the alignment of the chainring is not good, needs to be moved inboard by 3mm I think to have it aligned with middle of cassette.
All front end will also need to come apart to add a 0.5mm spacer to eliminate rubbing and allow better headset compression…
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A couple more things to do but getting close. Need to research more on dripper post, not pleased with how I did it, and rear shock to be cabled.
Also the alignment of the chainring is not good, needs to be moved inboard by 3mm I think to have it aligned with middle of cassette.
All front end will also need to come apart to add a 0.5mm spacer to eliminate rubbing and allow better headset compression…
You must disassemble the cable mount or holder on the rear shock, and then you can rotate the cable holder onto the outer cable.
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The first test ride was successful. Some optimizations are still needed, including the cables at the front.
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Nice, exact same suspension set up! Your paint job looks great!
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A couple more things to do but getting close. Need to research more on dripper post, not pleased with how I did it, and rear shock to be cabled.
Also the alignment of the chainring is not good, needs to be moved inboard by 3mm I think to have it aligned with middle of cassette.
All front end will also need to come apart to add a 0.5mm spacer to eliminate rubbing and allow better headset compression…
very beautiful, congratulations!
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It seems that they don't produce size XL or it's not available, I don't understand why.
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Hello.
Does a 750ml bottle fit on a vertical mount side?
Deem, In photo it looks like a horizontal 750 ml bottle will rest against shox lockout cable. Is this true? What is your frame size?
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750ml botte won’t fit I think.
I have play in the rear triangle I need to chase.
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Ok so maje sure you check all the rear triangle hardware, everything was loose on mine, it needs to be torqued to spec.
Everything is now good and working. I have headset play to address, the Cring is not high enough and my headset spacer bottom piece is hitting the bearing cover before i have full compression of headset assembly, should have tested that better before connecting everything.
Other than that the bike looks fantastic!
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I had the same thing on FM138. I put a two millimeter headset spacer under the spacer bottom piece to lift it higher. Cables had still enough room to move. I hope the FM358 is no different.
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I have a bunch of C rings, I should have the part to adjust. I am using syncros Fraser bar and associated headset with acros bearing cups, bearings and c ring for the moment
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This frame looks nice! How much are they asking without custom paint? I'd love to convince my friend to get one
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I had the same thing on FM138. I put a two millimeter headset spacer under the spacer bottom piece to lift it higher. Cables had still enough room to move. I hope the FM358 is no different.
I think 930$ including DDP shipping to US.
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I completed the build of my FM358. There is still snow on the ground, so I have yet to take it out for a good ride. Will be doing that in the next few weeks. No issues with the build. Frame is great quality. I purchased from frame from Helen at hongfu bikes.
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I completed the build of my FM358. There is still snow on the ground, so I have yet to take it out for a good ride. Will be doing that in the next few weeks. No issues with the build. Frame is great quality. I purchased from frame from Helen at hongfu bikes.
Is that the Fox DPS shock? I was curious is there is enough clearance around top tube for that one vs. a sidluxe that is a bit thinner.
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This looks EXACTLY like the new Orbea Oiz 2027 edition!
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This looks EXACTLY like the new Orbea Oiz 2027 edition!
It's rather a canyon lux trail clone
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I’m considering ordering the FM 358. What is the consensus on this? Is it reliable? Are there any parts that must be swapped out for longevity?
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My Medium frame is in transit… will update more on build progress. Order took about 5 weeks to ship.
Hardest part was sourcing the 16.8mm shock hardware bushing. Ended getting one custom made from offset bushings. They also make standard bushings with no offset…
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Simply purchase two of these packages and use the widest bushings for the front.
RockShox Rear Shock Mounting Hardware 3-Piece 1/2" for Imperial &
Metric Shocks - 8mm - 8 x 30,0 mm. (2pcs)
The are delivered with assummetric size bushings.
For the rear side, you can use:
RockShox Rear Shock Mounting Hardware 3-Piece 1/2" for Imperial &
Metric Shocks - 8mm - 8 x 16.0 mm (1pc)
I use it with:
ROCKSHOX SIDLUXE ULTIMATE 3P SOLO AIR REMOTE SHOCK 210x50.
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I see on their website a 2025 version, do we know what’s changed ?
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Took the bike on a 45km ride with 1000m elevation mix of road, gravel, blue and black trails. Handled it all amazingly. Zero complaints so far. Frame feels stiff and confidence inspiring for a short travel bike. Geo is really good and I was very comfortable for 3+ hours of riding.
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Here is a Video of my Hongfu FM358 Build.
https://youtu.be/uI8IFFO535Q?si=qLLl2QTqUigXEGye
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Hello. Asking for a friend who has just received this frame. The link axle that bolts into the top tube does not turn. It has a thicker, non-round part in the middle which fits into a slot inside the link. How is that supposed to work?
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Here is a Video of my Hongfu FM358 Build.
https://youtu.be/uI8IFFO535Q?si=qLLl2QTqUigXEGye
thanks for the video, looks like an awesome build. i’m thinking about ordering either this frame or the fm138. i’ve been emailing with one of the sales people at hongfu, they requested a bank transfer as payment, which i’ve never encountered before ordering chinese frames or wheels. paypal has always been the preferred payment method. did you pay via bank transfer?
also curious how long was your wait time between making payment and when your frame shipped out. they told me the frame in my requested size is in stock, but would take about 3 weeks to ship out. (no custom paint job, just stock black)
i would really appreciate hearing your feedback of the order process!
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Not Hongfu, but I paid Mondince via a bank transfer. It worked out fine, but in hindsight I wish I had insisted on using Paypal for peace of mind. I would ask to use Paypal instead.