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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: RickyM on January 23, 2026, 05:18:56 AM
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I found a new frame on Ali.
Looks like a mix from the old Triaero, the scott plasma and the Canyon speedmax.
Simmilar to the new Quick pro.
What do you think?
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005010776201897.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller.1.4b7cjOPCjOPCI9&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=9eb63721-8d43-4237-beea-77804b5224e3&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.291025.0,pvid:9eb63721-8d43-4237-beea-77804b5224e3,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238111%231996&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22-1%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%223339%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22recommend%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21USD%213798.00%211899.00%21%21%213798.00%211899.00%21%40210328c017691655864238800e1128%2112000053474754829%21rec%21AR%21185111422%21XZ%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29919%3Bd%3A92c7174e%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A1005010776201897%7C_p_origin_prod%3A
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Expensive...
Other than that, not much to say... Waiting for people to build and see...
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Usually but is on the lower end of the price ladder, I would expect this to drop significantly
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Cune aerium rip-off
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IMHO for a fast TT the frame needs a serious CFD design process plus wind tunnel testing. Mixing different existing designs in one frame doesn't automatically do the job.
Plus a fast UCI legal TT biken nowadays is aerodinamically designed for much higher speeds than triathlon TTs are, making them fast for their specific purpose, but not for the other (be it TT or tiathlon). Thats why Team Tudor who has BMC as bike sponsor will ride for the 2026 season an old TT model from BMC that was designed for road race TT speeds only, instead of the new BMC TT that is offered as an universal bike for both road race TT and triathlon. And reason is not that BMC is not willing to provide the team with the newest stuff.
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what i find most interesting about this is the basebar, which looks like a vision metron tfa (gen 1) copy (like the one pictured here: https://mchsports.com.au/products/vision-metron-tfa-aero-bar-with-tfe-pro-extension-bar)
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IMHO for a fast TT the frame needs a serious CFD design process plus wind tunnel testing. Mixing different existing designs in one frame doesn't automatically do the job.
Plus a fast UCI legal TT biken nowadays is aerodinamically designed for much higher speeds than triathlon TTs are, making them fast for their specific purpose, but not for the other (be it TT or tiathlon). Thats why Team Tudor who has BMC as bike sponsor will ride for the 2026 season an old TT model from BMC that was designed for road race TT speeds only, instead of the new BMC TT that is offered as an universal bike for both road race TT and triathlon. And reason is not that BMC is not willing to provide the team with the newest stuff.
I've seen BMC tests new TT bike for Tudor with Lotus like wide rear traingle.
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I've seen BMC tests new TT bike for Tudor with Lotus like wide rear traingle.
That's really interesting! But sounds like a prototype we'll maybe see in the 2027 season?
What I worte is something I've read on a German road bike news page which I deem a pretty reliable source:
https://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_144105.htm
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@RickM pls don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the new BTX TT is a bad bike. What I wanted to point out is that designing a too notch TT frame needs a lot of financial resources.
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That's really interesting! But sounds like a prototype we'll maybe see in the 2027 season?
What I worte is something I've read on a German road bike news page which I deem a pretty reliable source:
https://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_144105.htm
You'll see it raced this season.
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Weird proprietary stem and handlebar..
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@RickM pls don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the new BTX TT is a bad bike. What I wanted to point out is that designing a too notch TT frame needs a lot of financial resources.
Hey! I´m not worried, I was just curious about that new frame and wanted to see you guys oppinion. A lot of old and new frames "look" fast but then in test they are just about the same as any other. Personally I like more "clean" frames, I think this has too mucho of too many things.
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Well, there is no reason for this price..we have been buying tt frames for over a decade...the prices always are around 750 USD to 950 USD..
we see an increasing number of chinese companies trying to sell these frames for double?
Other give away exclusivity to european clients and the clients does not sell it ? (Ican does not sell to us because of a contract in Germany, but the bike is not marketed , yet)
Tantans frame looks promising and offers good geometry for 700 USD less...but no boxes...
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You'll see it raced this season.
They seem to be still in the development phase, and a change in UCI rules made their first sets of molds become something for the trash yard. Escape collective has some veeeeery intesting insights in how costly the development of a top notch TT frame is:
https://escapecollective.com/inside-tudor-and-bmcs-innovative-time-trial-project-part-i/
https://escapecollective.com/exclusive-part-2-inside-bmc-and-tudors-new-tt-bike-project/
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You'll see it raced this season.
@Toxin you were right, we could see it already, Küng raced a prototype TT in the Challenge Mallorca, with the rest of the team on the old frame model.
I'm a bit confused as I that frame and fork needs UCI approval to be used in a race?!?
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@Toxin you were right, we could see it already, Küng raced a prototype TT in the Challenge Mallorca, with the rest of the team on the old frame model.
I'm a bit confused as I that frame and fork needs UCI approval to be used in a race?!?
I believe you can have prototype equipment approved separately, so it might not show up on the UCI approval list for that reason.
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They seem to be still in the development phase, and a change in UCI rules made their first sets of molds become something for the trash yard. Escape collective has some veeeeery intesting insights in how costly the development of a top notch TT frame is:
https://escapecollective.com/inside-tudor-and-bmcs-innovative-time-trial-project-part-i/
https://escapecollective.com/exclusive-part-2-inside-bmc-and-tudors-new-tt-bike-project/
The latter article is about eventa from late August. The design was already basically finalised then, they've had loads of time since.
They also aren't really making this bike to sell it. Like track bikes, it's made exclusively for the pros and will only be on sale because it has to be. Tudor are the ones doing most of the development and footing most of the costs.
@Toxin you were right, we could see it already, Küng raced a prototype TT in the Challenge Mallorca, with the rest of the team on the old frame model.
I'm a bit confused as I that frame and fork needs UCI approval to be used in a race?!?
No reason it can't be UCI approved.
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I found a new frame on Ali.
Looks like a mix from the old Triaero, the scott plasma and the Canyon speedmax.
Simmilar to the new Quick pro.
What do you think?
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005010776201897.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller.1.4b7cjOPCjOPCI9&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=9eb63721-8d43-4237-beea-77804b5224e3&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.291025.0,pvid:9eb63721-8d43-4237-beea-77804b5224e3,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238111%231996&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22-1%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%223339%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22recommend%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21USD%213798.00%211899.00%21%21%213798.00%211899.00%21%40210328c017691655864238800e1128%2112000053474754829%21rec%21AR%21185111422%21XZ%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29919%3Bd%3A92c7174e%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A1005010776201897%7C_p_origin_prod%3A
I contacted them through their website. and He sent me the link to their alibaba site. 1250 for the frame + cockpit, or 850 for the frame alone.
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Damn it they already raised the price to 1500 usd or 1250 including integrated cockpit...
I should have pulled the trigger when it was 880 for frame only
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I think it´s a lot of money for a non tested frame. Remember that Chinese factories send out products to sell and then use us to polish and correct their mistakes in their newer models.
Maybe wait a few months, and find a sale.
This frame has a lot of "extras" mixed in one frame, but sometimes less is more so I would be cautious.
Anyhow, I really like the looks and if I´m not wrong, the aerobars can be tilted up or down acoording to your needs.
We´ll see.
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This frame has a lot of "extras" mixed in one frame, but sometimes less is more so I would be cautious.
This is how I feel, I just want a relatively normal frame that fits 32mm tires and has a modern/adjustable cockpit. Nothing crazy and also nothing that is 1500 or 2500 USD.
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Has anyone purchased one of these yet?
I'm very intrigued by this frame. I think it might jump ahead of the VB TT023 for me, because of how nice the cockpit is looking!
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Well, still nobody built one yet?
with this price tag, it does not make sense not to buy the 2027 Version of the cube...it comes for 4999 Euros MSRP....if they insinst on this price, the frame is around 1800 Euros whith all costs added...
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Has anyone purchased one of these yet?
I'm very intrigued by this frame. I think it might jump ahead of the VB TT023 for me, because of how nice the cockpit is looking!
You can buy the cockpit standalone from BXT.
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I think nobody wants to be the first guinea pig.
1st itineration of chinese products tend to have some flaws. And spending this kind of money it´s more than risky.
I couldn´t find any Ytuber unboxing this frameset.
I wonder if they have made more than the model from the photoshoots.
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You can buy the cockpit standalone from BXT.
I know, but it wasn’t available separately when I made that post.
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a little update from me,
Meinier seems to also have this frame....i tried to reach out and slowly, they are answering....no details, yet but alibaba contact is alive.
i will keep you posted...
i would love to have a frame with totally crazy painting for my next year raceseason, being also our "next top model" for our 3d printed stuff.
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Is it really an untested frame when it seems like it is a 1:1 of the new Cube Aerium and even the inframe storage is the same. Geometry is also 1:1 of the Cube. Only difference I can find is the cockpit.