After my first post talking about Light Cycling, I have just known that a new frame just popped up from him . It looks very good, but we only get to see a render for now.
It has T47, UDH, 35c tire clearance, good stack, zero offset seatpost.
The aero should be identical to the SL9.
For me it is a big yes.
Here are the specs :
1) Material and layup: T800 + T1100 carbon, EPS + latex molding, smooth inner walls; the carbon yarn has good elongation, improving strength and stiffness
2) Seatpost length comes in two sizes: 285mm (for sizes ≤52) and 365mm (for sizes ≥54)
3) Thru-axles: front 12×100mm / rear 12×142mm
4) Disc brake mounts: fork convertible between 140mm and 160mm; rear 160mm
5) Dedicated internal battery mount for electronic shifting, with a battery holder at the end of the seatpost
6) Fork weight: 380g
7) Seatpost weight: 160g
8 ) Frame weight : 850 g for size 54 cm (UD matte)
9) Max chainring 54T
This frame is called RF10 and it is designed for riders who demand aerodynamics, stiffness, and racing performance.
The first batch will be ready at the end of August and presales are opened. You can contact the seller through WhatsApp (+86 180 2696 3351) or his website where there is more details :
https://light-cycling.com/shop/road-bike-frame/lightcycling-surge-rf10/
Edit : 54T is the max chainring (not 52T).
Max chainring 52? Lame.
:)
Looks like it would be soft in the rear triangle -- not sure why there isn't more material surrounding the BB shell
Seems like the exact same thing as the updated tantan x68 sl9 copy? T47 and everything
Quote from: Jaaniusss on August 05, 2026, 01:42:47 AM
Seems like the exact same thing as the updated tantan x68 sl9 copy? T47 and everything
Not the same shape.
Quote from: Majoeric on August 04, 2026, 10:09:46 AM
Max chainring 52? Lame.
:)
Update : The seller has checked and it is 54T :).
Been Speaking with Daniel at Light Cycling since week before last.
Well thank F! he said was 52T yesterday so I said no go!
Made at same factory Tan Tan use for there newly inspired frame!
Said he will test 56/42T when they get a frame and build it
Is there an actual pic already of the frame?
it seems only to me SL9 inspired dhape?
New pictures.
Frame weight (size 54). Slightly lighter than the new X68.
Any thoughts to what exactly Light Cycling is doing differently than Tan Tan in terms of QC and carbon layup?
Quote from: patliean1 on September 03, 2026, 04:52:11 PM
Any thoughts to what exactly Light Cycling is doing differently than Tan Tan in terms of QC and carbon layup?
Straight from the horse's mouth — Daniel Zhang at Light Cycling.
He says the main difference is the additional QC and attention to detail. They've tightened the inspection standards for the raw frames, and he says virtually every frame can be finished in bare carbon so you can actually see the underlying finish rather than hiding it under paint.
They also do more detailed post-processing: the BB area is cleaned and checked, attention is paid to the disc-brake mounts, head tube and cockpit/headset interfaces, cable-routing guide wires are pre-installed to make building easier, and they supply anti-rattle foam tubing for the internal cables.
So from what Daniel is saying, it's mainly the extra QC, preparation and finishing before the frame reaches the customer.
Layup no idea
Also, this particular frame is actually manufactured by Longteng and some may fall
Of there chairs but the Tan Tan 'manufactured' frame is also made by them as well.
Quote from: Sander2177 on September 03, 2026, 05:08:22 PM
Straight from the horse's mouth — Daniel Zhang at Light Cycling.
Also, this particular frame is actually manufactured by Longteng and some may fall
Of there chairs but the Tan Tan 'manufactured' frame is also made by them as well.
I asked Alisa from LongTeng if they produce this frame, they said no. Reason I asked her because I am inquiring about their RD302 which is Mondince's FM126.
Quote from: Dark17 on September 03, 2026, 10:06:00 PM
I asked Alisa from LongTeng if they produce this frame, they said no. Reason I asked her because I am inquiring about their RD302 which is Mondince's FM126.
Well I've just gone back to Daniel ant and specifically checked this with him because of your post.
He's adamant that the RF01 is manufactured by Longteng and says the factory designation is LTK266-D, with the FK266 fork.
I've been speaking to Daniel at Light Cycling this morning and managed to clarify a bit more about where the various frames they sell are actually coming from.
Daniel has a direct relationship with Longteng and has confirmed that several of Light Cycling's existing open-mould frames are manufactured by them. Specifically, he says the RF01, RF02, RF04 and GF09 are Longteng frames.
He's also shown me a recent delivery note from Huizhou Longteng Sports Equipment Co., Ltd. showing frames, handlebars and components being supplied to him, so there clearly is a genuine commercial relationship between Light Cycling and Longteng.
However, I specifically asked him about the new RF10, and he has confirmed that the RF10 is NOT manufactured by Longteng.
The RF10 comes from another factory. This is particularly interesting because, as I understand it, the same underlying frame is also being sold by TanTan as the X68, which is why I was interested in finding out who the actual manufacturer behind the mould is rather than simply which companies are selling it.
I asked Daniel directly who the factory is. He has said that, because the RF10 is currently a new product and he has invested quite a lot into bringing it to market, he would prefer not to disclose the factory at this stage to avoid creating any unnecessary issues.
That's fair enough, and obviously I'm going to respect that rather than start guessing.
It does highlight something that comes up repeatedly with Chinese open-mould frames, though. We often know the companies selling a particular frame, but that doesn't necessarily tell us who is actually manufacturing it. The same mould can appear through several different sellers, and tracing it back to the actual factory can be surprisingly difficult.
To Daniel's credit, he's been quite open with me about Light Cycling's business model. He doesn't claim that all the frames on the Light Cycling website are their own proprietary designs or that Light Cycling manufactures them. A number are existing open-mould frames sourced from established factories, including the Longteng models above.
So at least we now know one thing definitively from Daniel: RF01, RF02, RF04 and GF09 are sourced from Longteng; RF10 is not.
As for exactly which factory is behind the RF10/X68, Daniel wants to keep that commercially confidential for the moment, so I'll respect that.
Quote from: Sander2177 on September 04, 2026, 02:35:14 AM
Well I've just gone back to Daniel ant and specifically checked this with him because of your post.
He's adamant that the RF01 is manufactured by Longteng and says the factory designation is LTK266-D, with the FK266 fork.
I've been speaking to Daniel at Light Cycling this morning and managed to clarify a bit more about where the various frames they sell are actually coming from.
Daniel has a direct relationship with Longteng and has confirmed that several of Light Cycling's existing open-mould frames are manufactured by them. Specifically, he says the RF01, RF02, RF04 and GF09 are Longteng frames.
He's also shown me a recent delivery note from Huizhou Longteng Sports Equipment Co., Ltd. showing frames, handlebars and components being supplied to him, so there clearly is a genuine commercial relationship between Light Cycling and Longteng.
However, I specifically asked him about the new RF10, and he has confirmed that the RF10 is NOT manufactured by Longteng.
The RF10 comes from another factory. This is particularly interesting because, as I understand it, the same underlying frame is also being sold by TanTan as the X68, which is why I was interested in finding out who the actual manufacturer behind the mould is rather than simply which companies are selling it.
I asked Daniel directly who the factory is. He has said that, because the RF10 is currently a new product and he has invested quite a lot into bringing it to market, he would prefer not to disclose the factory at this stage to avoid creating any unnecessary issues.
That's fair enough, and obviously I'm going to respect that rather than start guessing.
It does highlight something that comes up repeatedly with Chinese open-mould frames, though. We often know the companies selling a particular frame, but that doesn't necessarily tell us who is actually manufacturing it. The same mould can appear through several different sellers, and tracing it back to the actual factory can be surprisingly difficult.
To Daniel's credit, he's been quite open with me about Light Cycling's business model. He doesn't claim that all the frames on the Light Cycling website are their own proprietary designs or that Light Cycling manufactures them. A number are existing open-mould frames sourced from established factories, including the Longteng models above.
So at least we now know one thing definitively from Daniel: RF01, RF02, RF04 and GF09 are sourced from Longteng; RF10 is not.
As for exactly which factory is behind the RF10/X68, Daniel wants to keep that commercially confidential for the moment, so I'll respect that.
Have we confirmed for sure that the new TT-X86 and this frame share the mold? These two bikes, while similar, don't appear to be identical. The headtubes and forks are for sure different. They do both seem to be... inspired by the SL9, but I wouldn't go as far as to say they come from the same mold. It might be the different sizing of the frames on the pictures, but it is hard to gauge
How about RF9, where is it sourced from?
Quote from: Gloopann on September 05, 2026, 08:42:53 AM
Have we confirmed for sure that the new TT-X86 and this frame share the mold? These two bikes, while similar, don't appear to be identical. The headtubes and forks are for sure different. They do both seem to be... inspired by the SL9, but I wouldn't go as far as to say they come from the same mold. It might be the different sizing of the frames on the pictures, but it is hard to gauge
The don't share the same mould but apparently they are made in the same factory
Quote from: mindflash on September 05, 2026, 11:02:51 AM
How about RF9, where is it sourced from?
Daniel Zhang
+86 180 2696 3351
What's app him and ask
Does anyone have any experience with their RF03 frame?
Seems like another SL8 inspired frame, but slightly slacker headtube with consequently longer bb to front length which seems like positive for more forward position and for people with big feet like me (toe overlap).
Quote from: Sander2177 on September 05, 2026, 01:47:55 PM
Daniel Zhang
+86 180 2696 3351
What's app him and ask
Currently looking to buy the rf10, any feedback on it?
Or anyone else for that matter 🙏
the RF10 hasnt been produced yet, has it?
Quote from: Ludo on September 07, 2026, 06:46:02 AM
the RF10 hasnt been produced yet, has it?
First batch is ready.
so, it's got the (almost exact) geometry of an SL9 (I added it to geometry geeks), it looks like a (ghetto) SL9, and it clears 35C: it's a Temu SL10, and i like it!
Can someone pls ask how much clearance there is if using a 35C that measures 41mm front and back? We know the new conti gp5000 pretty much never measures 35mm, but plenty of people reporting 39-40 and even 41.
Someone please order one and comment on ride quality, i'm quite interested :)
Edit: clearance is 35mm, not 35C, so too narrow for my needs. Sad
I'm kind of baffled why in 2026 geometry details like front center, wheelbase, and standover height still aren't provided as standard from every brand.
As more folks reconsider their bike fit these measurements become just as important as the good old stack and reach.
Has anyone ordered or even ridden this frameset yet?
Quote from: Kar25 on September 14, 2026, 04:28:22 AM
Has anyone ordered or even ridden this frameset yet?
Unlikely it has just literally been released maybe a couple of weeks ago.
Whatsapp Daniel at Light Cycling +86 180 2696 3351
If the fit and finish is solid especially the caliper mounts. And the overall bike doesn't feel like a noodle out of the saddle. This should be a great alternative to something like the Evolve Cima.
The majority of road frames I've tested in this price range usually have a super sloppy and harsh rear end over bad pavement, flexes too much under heavy power transfer, or just feels sketchy when descending.
I'm not expecting a perfect bike for the price. But I do hope Light Cycle has addressed these issues in some capacity. Would be cool to see how this thing rides compared to my SL8 and TanTan X68.
Quote from: patliean1 on September 14, 2026, 09:59:49 AM
If the fit and finish is solid especially the caliper mounts. And the overall bike doesn't feel like a noodle out of the saddle. This should be a great alternative to something like the Evolve Cima.
The majority of road frames I've tested in this price range usually have a super sloppy and harsh rear end over bad pavement, flexes too much under heavy power transfer, or just feels sketchy when descending.
I'm not expecting a perfect bike for the price. But I do hope Light Cycle has addressed these issues in some capacity. Would be cool to see how this thing rides compared to my SL8 and TanTan X68.
Well, after speaking with Daniel at length over the past couple of months, it'll be interesting to hear your thoughts and see whether what he's been saying stacks up in the real world.
I'll also be interested to see the overall finish quality and whether the mounting surfaces have actually been prepared as thoroughly as he claims.
From what Daniel has told me, they've put quite a bit of focus into addressing the typical issues seen on a lot of lower-cost frames.
Quote from: Kar25 on September 14, 2026, 04:28:22 AM
Has anyone ordered or even ridden this frameset yet?
I did order this, it should arrive on couple days from now.
Quote from: akr on September 16, 2026, 06:55:05 AM
I did order this, it should arrive on couple days from now.
Can you please give us photos and updetes 😉
Some pictures of a paint job.
Here is my Surge RF10 from Light Cycling. Size 56. Shimano Di2 105 Groupset, Toccay Aero60 Wheels, Magene TEO 515 PM, EXS Aerover 38/140 cockpit
TLDR
-The bike feels more premium than the price suggest. Fit and finish is good. Light Cycling forgot to include my seatpost. So now my bike is offline until the seat post arrives. In late October
The Good
Everything was packaged very well upon delivery. Inside of the frame was exceptionally smooth with no sharp edges anywhere. Routing all the cables was easy. The T47 BB threads and both caliper mounts were cleanly sanded given the price point. No issues installing my bottom bracket or aligning the calipers. Building up the bike was a pleasure.
Light Cycling made the intelligent decision to design the RF10 frame around the FSA/ACR headset standard. So finding a cockpit or stem to internally route the cables was easy. Overall the paint job of the frame is solid. No obviously signs of low budget slop.
The Bad
During the frameset transit, Light Cycling warned me ahead of time that they forgot to include the Di2 battery mount and rubber seat post cover. And that they were shipping those small parts out ASAP. No big deal. However upon opening the box, they also forgot to include the seat post. Yes...the actual seat post was missing :o. So now they have to send me yet another separate shipment for the seat post.
My Rant
Thankfully I randomly had a spare Tarmac SL8 seat post. Light Cycling said the genuine SL8 seat post should fit for obvious reasons. In real world practice however the fit is very suboptimal. Even with masking tape shimmed around the seat post, extra grip paste, and going slightly above the torque spec (8Nm versus 6.2Nm) I still have slippage.
The Chinese holiday is approaching. That means my seat post won't be shipped out for at least 1.5 weeks. Which subsequently also means I won't have it in hand until end of October, early November. Right in time for when it gets cold here and the outdoor riding season is basically finished. Light Cycling asked me to be very transparent with my critique since they are looking for tangible feedback. Obviously I didn't pay for the frame as a YouTuber.
My minor frustration is two fold: 1. One of Light Cycling's primary selling points is they want to go above and beyond the common headaches of dealing with Chinese brands in this price range. So I cannot for the life of me understand how a factory/brand could forget packaging the seatpost. I almost chuckle thinking about the irony here. 2. Even the supplied seatpost on my TanTan X68 from last year had very similar seatpost slipping issues. So I don't have a lot of confidence that my problem will be resolved even when my missing seat post eventually arrives.
The Bike Itself
Please take this with a grain of salt. I only managed a 2 hour ride so far on a windy day here in Chicago. A couple of sprints and few out of the saddle manuevers thrown in, but mainly steady endurance race.
My initial impression - The bike as a whole feels closer to a premium Chinese brand than a budget means to an end. Surprisingly solid. I test so many bikes that I can usually immediately tell within 20 minutes whether or not a bike is good or bad. This is also why I've pretty much stopped reviewing $500-$700 frames - All of them tend to have glaring issues.
I am happy to report nothing sloppy, creaky, or flexy on the RF10 like my TanTan X68. And not aggressively stiff like a Winspace T1600 or VB AeroTrace 368. Apples to oranges yes LoL
My size 56 frame came in around 960g. The complete bike w/ pedals, cages, PM, and Wahoo mount is 7.1kg all in.
The Surge RF10 feels quite comfortable. There is a great balance between stiffness and lightweight that you can feel when putting power down out of the saddle. I can already tell so far that this will be a really fun bike to ride. Stable in the crosswind too. You really notice how light and maneuverable this bike is. Good job Light Cycling.
Final Thoughts For Now
I am still working on filming the actual video. And I really do need to spend A LOT more time riding this before I can get even close to finalizing my opinions on it. Ripping some all out sprints, 30mph/50kph group rides, rolling terrain. In person I love the paint job. But I do not love the abundance of nonsensical decals and their font choice. It screams: "Chinese brand with no budget for a Western marketing/branding consultant." But I understand for advertising purposes why brands rarely allow me to choose decal-less frames when exchanging for review.
Super bummed about the seat post debacle. I was hoping to ride this bike for a 100mi/160km effort this weekend. This is where all of my bikes get put to their real world test. But I neither have the time or patience to dick around troubleshooting a problem that truthfully should not exist. Only a few more weeks remaining of GOOD cycling weather. And I have other projects to prioritize. So basically this bike will be offline until the new seat post arrives.
Really looking forward to your review video 😎.
Considering you're kind of a celebrity in the scene and they're already using your name on FB and Instagram, the lack of a seatpost and the other missing components is honestly an inexplicable disaster for Light Cycling.
And yes, the branding and decals are, like with most Chinese suppliers, pretty hard on the eyes. 😅
Quote from: patliean1 on September 29, 2026, 05:07:12 PM
Here is my Surge RF10 from Light Cycling. Size 56. Shimano Di2 105 Groupset, Toccay Aero60 Wheels, Magene TEO 515 PM, EXS Aerover 38/140 cockpit
TLDR
-The bike feels more premium than the price suggest. Fit and finish is good. Light Cycling forgot to include my seatpost. So now my bike is offline until the seat post arrives. In late October
The Good
Everything was packaged very well upon delivery. Inside of the frame was exceptionally smooth with no sharp edges anywhere. Routing all the cables was easy. The T47 BB threads and both caliper mounts were cleanly sanded given the price point. No issues installing my bottom bracket or aligning the calipers. Building up the bike was a pleasure.
Light Cycling made the intelligent decision to design the RF10 frame around the FSA/ACR headset standard. So finding a cockpit or stem to internally route the cables was easy. Overall the paint job of the frame is solid. No obviously signs of low budget slop.
The Bad
During the frameset transit, Light Cycling warned me ahead of time that they forgot to include the Di2 battery mount and rubber seat post cover. And that they were shipping those small parts out ASAP. No big deal. However upon opening the box, they also forgot to include the seat post. Yes...the actual seat post was missing :o. So now they have to send me yet another separate shipment for the seat post.
My Rant
Thankfully I randomly had a spare Tarmac SL8 seat post. Light Cycling said the genuine SL8 seat post should fit for obvious reasons. In real world practice however the fit is very suboptimal. Even with masking tape shimmed around the seat post, extra grip paste, and going slightly above the torque spec (8Nm versus 6.2Nm) I still have slippage.
The Chinese holiday is approaching. That means my seat post won't be shipped out for at least 1.5 weeks. Which subsequently also means I won't have it in hand until end of October, early November. Right in time for when it gets cold here and the outdoor riding season is basically finished. Light Cycling asked me to be very transparent with my critique since they are looking for tangible feedback. Obviously I didn't pay for the frame as a YouTuber.
My minor frustration is two fold: 1. One of Light Cycling's primary selling points is they want to go above and beyond the common headaches of dealing with Chinese brands in this price range. So I cannot for the life of me understand how a factory/brand could forget packaging the seatpost. I almost chuckle thinking about the irony here. 2. Even the supplied seatpost on my TanTan X68 from last year had very similar seatpost slipping issues. So I don't have a lot of confidence that my problem will be resolved even when my missing seat post eventually arrives.
The Bike Itself
Please take this with a grain of salt. I only managed a 2 hour ride so far on a windy day here in Chicago. A couple of sprints and few out of the saddle manuevers thrown in, but mainly steady endurance race.
My initial impression - The bike as a whole feels closer to a premium Chinese brand than a budget means to an end. Surprisingly solid. I test so many bikes that I can usually immediately tell within 20 minutes whether or not a bike is good or bad. This is also why I've pretty much stopped reviewing $500-$700 frames - All of them tend to have glaring issues.
I am happy to report nothing sloppy, creaky, or flexy on the RF10 like my TanTan X68. And not aggressively stiff like a Winspace T1600 or VB AeroTrace 368. Apples to oranges yes LoL
My size 56 frame came in around 960g. The complete bike w/ pedals, cages, PM, and Wahoo mount is 7.1kg all in.
The Surge RF10 feels quite comfortable. There is a great balance between stiffness and lightweight that you can feel when putting power down out of the saddle. I can already tell so far that this will be a really fun bike to ride. Stable in the crosswind too. You really notice how light and maneuverable this bike is. Good job Light Cycling.
Final Thoughts For Now
I am still working on filming the actual video. And I really do need to spend A LOT more time riding this before I can get even close to finalizing my opinions on it. Ripping some all out sprints, 30mph/50kph group rides, rolling terrain. In person I love the paint job. But I do not love the abundance of nonsensical decals and their font choice. It screams: "Chinese brand with no budget for a Western marketing/branding consultant." But I understand for advertising purposes why brands rarely allow me to choose decal-less frames when exchanging for review.
Super bummed about the seat post debacle. I was hoping to ride this bike for a 100mi/160km effort this weekend. This is where all of my bikes get put to their real world test. But I neither have the time or patience to dick around troubleshooting a problem that truthfully should not exist. Only a few more weeks remaining of GOOD cycling weather. And I have other projects to prioritize. So basically this bike will be offline until the new seat post arrives.
One of the various SL9 you see around lately... ;D
There's just one thing I'd like to understand: how did you manage to achieve that total weight starting with a frame that weighs 960g?
I ask because last year I bought a Spcycle R088; painted and in size 56, it weighs just under your Surge RF10... built up with Force eTap AXS + Quarq PM (spider) + Tagoola 50mm wheels (approx. 1400g) + GP5000s TR 28mm tubeless tires + Ullicyc 420/110 cockpit (Roval Rapide style) + Fizik Argo Vento R5 saddle + Wahoo SPEEDPLAY Comp pedals = 7.9kg.
Thanks!
Quote from: Bonus79 on September 30, 2026, 09:47:44 AM
There's just one thing I'd like to understand: how did you manage to achieve that total weight starting with a frame that weighs 960g?
I ask because last year I bought a Spcycle R088; painted and in size 56, it weighs just under your Surge RF10... built up with Force eTap AXS + Quarq PM (spider) + Tagoola 50mm wheels (approx. 1400g) + GP5000s TR 28mm tubeless tires + Ullicyc 420/110 cockpit (Roval Rapide style) + Fizik Argo Vento R5 saddle + Wahoo SPEEDPLAY Comp pedals = 7.9kg.
Thanks!
Every component you listed is heavier than the equivalent on my build. Even just standard GP5000 clinchers are lighter than their tubeless counterpart.
I'm not a weight weenie. I'm just very pragmatic about my components and various touchpoints to keep things as consistent as possible.
Quote from: patliean1 on September 29, 2026, 05:07:12 PM
Here is my Surge RF10 from Light Cycling. Size 56. Shimano Di2 105 Groupset, Toccay Aero60 Wheels, Magene TEO 515 PM, EXS Aerover 38/140 cockpit
patliean1 - Thanks for your initial honest opinion. I'm finding it hard to keep track of things. Who is the actual manufacturer? Are there multiple versions of the CopyCat frame—I don't think so? Is the post-processing by Light Cycling the USP? I ordered a tt-x68-new (T47, etc.) from Seraph/TanTan. I'm curious to compare the results with your shipment. When is your video on the Light Cycling RF10 coming out? Let us know here! ;)
Quote from: patliean1 on September 30, 2026, 11:21:00 AM
Every component you listed is heavier than the equivalent on my build. Even just standard GP5000 clinchers are lighter than their tubeless counterpart.
I'm not a weight weenie. I'm just very pragmatic about my components and various touchpoints to keep things as consistent as possible.
I'm not a weight weenie either; I just wanted to understand which components have the biggest impact.
You could probably shave off 400–450g on the wheels and crankset (I imagine the wheels weigh around 1200g and the TEO crankset about 570g)...but that still leaves 350-450g, a significant amount considering that Force AXS and 105 Di2 should weigh roughly the same.
Thanks
Quote from: BeR on September 23, 2026, 04:00:16 AM
Some pictures of a paint job.
Is there an option to order a paintless frame?
Zero setback and offset available for the frame.
Well, I'm also seriously considering the SURGE RF10 as a replacement for my old X68.
I already have my SL9 build underway, although that's been delayed, and I've also considered the new X68. I was interested in getting a custom paint job, but at $200 USD it seems quite expensive relative to the $629 USD frame price, at least in my opinion.
One thing that appeals to me about Light Cycling is that they offer more options, are more accessible, and are generally more responsive. They can also supply finishes and customisation options that TanTan can't currently offer. Ultimately, it's not just about the frame itself, but the overall buying experience and support, which seems very good so far.
So at the moment I'm still umming and ahhing between the different options, although I'm definitely tempted to join the riser-bar crew on this bike as well.
Granted, Patrick's experience hasn't got off to the best start, but sh*t happens. At the end of the day, it's only a bike. As long as the issue gets sorted properly, it's not a big deal.
Potentially a vey promising frame so will be interesting to hear Patrick thoughts once he has ridden it some more.
But should be a good winter hack for the UK! ;D
Things happen regardless of brand. Light Cycling apologized and were quick to ship out the seatpost as soon as the holiday ended. I should have it in a couple of weeks.
I really do have high hopes for the bike. Even just the 2 hours I managed to ride, everything felt very promising.
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 07, 2026, 10:47:42 AM
This reads a bit more naturally while keeping your style:
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:D
Quote from: Jaaniusss on October 08, 2026, 04:52:44 AM
:D
😆 Lol, I won't lie, and I've never pretended otherwise. I use AI dictation because it's quicker and easier for writing replies. I just need to remember to remove the prompts before posting!
Anyway, I'm deep in discussions with Daniel Zhang about the finishing details on my frame. He thinks it can be done, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. It'll be pretty disappointing if it can't, to be honest. 😕
That's one of the reasons I'm seriously looking at the RF10 over the new X68. The finishing options seem much better, there are more paint choices available, and there aren't any of those crazy paint mark-ups.
I'm also looking at using the HUDUD riser bar. It looks almost identical to the Rpantahi. They've told me they can do a custom finish on the bars as well, although I'm still waiting for confirmation and cost.
The bars already come with ACR-compatible spacers, and they can also supply alternative spacers. I asked about SL8 (X68) these are $30 USD each as they said they have to print them.
The bars themselves are $190 USD, with shipping and taxes to the UK coming in at $40 USD, so $230 for standard bar so £175gbp cheaper than Rpanthai as they are £225 but that is not including VAT on there Ali store which is called Bikinge Store and thats from Rpanthai no idea why thats the name not asked!
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 08, 2026, 09:15:47 AM
😆 Lol, I won't lie, and I've never pretended otherwise. I use AI dictation because it's quicker and easier for writing replies. I just need to remember to remove the prompts before posting!
Anyway, I'm deep in discussions with Daniel Zhang about the finishing details on my frame. He thinks it can be done, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. It'll be pretty disappointing if it can't, to be honest. 😕
That's one of the reasons I'm seriously looking at the RF10 over the new X68. The finishing options seem much better, there are more paint choices available, and there aren't any of those crazy paint mark-ups.
I'm also looking at using the HUDUD riser bar. It looks almost identical to the Rpantahi. They've told me they can do a custom finish on the bars as well, although I'm still waiting for confirmation and cost.
The bars already come with ACR-compatible spacers, and they can also supply alternative spacers. I asked about SL8 (X68) these are $30 USD each as they said they have to print them.
The bars themselves are $190 USD, with shipping and taxes to the UK coming in at $40 USD, so $230 for standard bar so £175gbp cheaper than Rpanthai as they are £225 but that is not including VAT on there Ali store which is called Bikinge Store and thats from Rpanthai no idea why thats the name not asked!
Ever since my Ryet Lexon thin line handlebar broke I've been looking at the riser bars and just came across that from HUDUD, which as you say seems to be made exactly by the same factory as the Rpanthai one (only difference I saw between them was the angle, one says 10º and another 7º but I bet it's just a mistake).
If you're able to get you a custom finish please let me know how much that ends up being and what you're asking, since I was about to buy them but going to wait for the 11/11 discounts.
Kind regards Sander2177
Quote from: tysta on October 08, 2026, 09:39:50 AM
Ever since my Ryet Lexon thin line handlebar broke I've been looking at the riser bars and just came across that from HUDUD, which as you say seems to be made exactly by the same factory as the Rpanthai one (only difference I saw between them was the angle, one says 10º and another 7º but I bet it's just a mistake).
If you're able to get you a custom finish please let me know how much that ends up being and what you're asking, since I was about to buy them but going to wait for the 11/11 discounts.
Kind regards Sander2177
I will get more details tomorrow.
They post on Instagram as @xhlcarbonfiberbicycle.
At the moment, I can't say with certainty whether they are the actual source manufacturer. Similar to what I've learned with Rapanthai, some companies present themselves as manufacturers when they may not necessarily own the factory. Many companies publish factory walkthrough videos and production footage, but in some cases they are simply visiting the factory on scheduled production days when their products are being made and filming the process.
I've asked them for a lot more information so I can better understand exactly who they are and how they operate.
The reason I asked about custom paint is because many of their videos show painted bars, including red chrome and other custom finishes. I'm not looking for anything fancy myself, just a simple glossy finish over a raw UD carbon layup so you can still see the carbon weave and finish underneath. I was also offered a 6K carbon finish as an option.
Once I receive more details, including pricing, available finishes, technical specifications, manufacturing information and additional photos, I'll post an update.
I've already requested:
More photos of the bars
Technical drawings and specifications
Weight information they are advertising is 322g no idea what size that is
Available widths and sizes
Spacer availability
Finish options is custom paint fixed or spec dependant
As soon as they provide the information, I'll share everything I've learned. At the moment I'm still gathering facts rather than making assumptions.
Very interesting! Just made my order today! Was first considering x68 but everything with light cycling feels much better. I will try to pair it with the Ullicyc T5 riser bar. It's a bit of a gamble because I have only guessed based on some assumptions what size that will fit ;D
Quote from: delarune on October 08, 2026, 03:19:28 PM
Very interesting! Just made my order today! Was first considering x68 but everything with light cycling feels much better. I will try to pair it with the Ullicyc T5 riser bar. It's a bit of a gamble because I have only guessed based on some assumptions what size that will fit ;D
Ok what colours did you go for.
What have you guessed? Frame size?
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 08, 2026, 03:54:22 PM
Ok what colours did you go for.
What have you guessed? Frame size?
Simple raw carbon glossy. Have some ideas of decals to put on later.
No frame size is 58 no guess there. The information about the T5 bar however is not the best. Hope total stack and reach will be fine in the end. It will be a nice winter project :)
Quote from: delarune on October 08, 2026, 04:10:05 PM
Simple raw carbon glossy. Have some ideas of decals to put on later.
No frame size is 58 no guess there. The information about the T5 bar however is not the best. Hope total stack and reach will be fine in the end. It will be a nice winter project :)
Nice and how long for production and what's shipping estimate?
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 08, 2026, 04:30:48 PM
Nice and how long for production and what's shipping estimate?
Daniel said 10 working days to delivery. Shipping to Sweden I don't know but normally 2-3weeks.
Quote from: delarune on October 08, 2026, 05:04:20 PM
Daniel said 10 working days to delivery. Shipping to Sweden I don't know but normally 2-3weeks.
10 Working Days is Rapid!
2-3weeks is looong! ;D
UK deliveries never take that long and you guys are not much further away
OK, trigger pulled on the RF10! . I was originally contemplating the X68, however Daniel at Light Cycling was able to do a finish Tan Tan couldn't offer.
When I first asked Daniel if the finish was possible he said it was ok, but after looking into it further it turned out not to be readily available ;D. When I asked again last week, he offered an alternative, but I wasn't particularly keen on it. Maybe a Plan B at some point, but not what I wanted.
Daniel confirmed this morning that everything is good to go, so apparently his lead time are 15days which are good :D
Now onto bars. I thought I'd give HUDUD Riser a try. They're on AliExpress, but I reached out to them directly after seeing some of their XHL Carbon Fibre videos on Facebook and Instagram ;D . One thing that appealed to me is that they can do custom finishes, so I've asked for a UD paint-free gloss finish.
The RF10 uses the FSA ACR system, which is the only thing giving me a headache at the moment.
For the HUDUD bars the supplied cone spacer for the top tube is 10mm, then the headset spacers and bar cover add another 10mm, so you're already at around 20mm of stack before you've even started and there bars are an OD1/OD2 with shim.
Ideally, I'd like to see if they can produce an integrated solution so I can get the bars slammed as much as possible. The Surge geometry is pretty much identical to the SL8/SL9, only around 3mm lower. On my SL9 I already run a 10mm and 5mm spacer with a 3mm handlebar spacer (18mm) so I'm definitely not looking to end up with 20mm plus another 25mm of rise.
If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears.
I've also spoken to the Sticky Bottle on Instagram, who can make a custom spacer but I have to measure the supplied spacer so more waiting if i have to do this an more expense.
But by the time everything is ordered and custom-made I start wondering whether the Tavelo Rise makes more sense. It's lighter, but the HUDU still appeals because of the custom paint options and the lower price point. At the moment I'm still weighing up the pros and cons.
I have also asked HUDUD for an integrated spacer they are also looking into it
kudos for your purchase. curious to what the price ended up being? if you can/want to tell.
there website mentions 699$ all in DDP, which would be very very competetive.
why not go with someting of a milder rise? like the 8mm of the LC HBR17?
ULTRA the one ? (never tried, but saw that on an SL8 recently)
Quote from: MarioCanario on October 12, 2026, 09:53:15 AM
kudos for your purchase. curious to what the price ended up being? if you can/want to tell.
there website mentions 699$ all in DDP, which would be very very competetive.
why not go with someting of a milder rise? like the 8mm of the LC HBR17?
Yes, that's right with Shipping and the custom finish added an extra $100 USD. The geometry is effectively identical to my SL8 and SL9 and well I wanted the finish I requested so they better di a good job!. The only real difference is that I'm going with a riser bar
I originally planned to get the HUDUD, but I got fed up waiting for all the back and forth over spacer questions although I did want the UD Gloss finish, but its not the end of the world!, and I'm not the most patient person. In the end I ordered a set of Tavelo Rise bars in 380 × 120 mm.
On my SL9 I currently run a flat bar setup with an 18 mm spacer stack. The THM bars I'm using now have a 6° rise, whereas the Tavelo bars use a 10° rise. Once you factor in the head tube angle, I should only need the cone spacer and the single 10 mm spacer under the bars to achieve my position and the Tavelo also gives me a cleaner front-end setup with fewer spacers while keeping the same fit.
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 12, 2026, 10:19:27 AM
In the end I ordered a set of Tavelo Rise bars in 380 × 120 mm.
way to go. i think this will look good on the RF10
Has anyone bought the RF09? I'm considering it.
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 12, 2026, 10:19:27 AM
Yes, that's right with Shipping and the custom finish added an extra $100 USD. The geometry is effectively identical to my SL8 and SL9 and well I wanted the finish I requested so they better di a good job!. The only real difference is that I'm going with a riser bar
I originally planned to get the HUDUD, but I got fed up waiting for all the back and forth over spacer questions although I did want the UD Gloss finish, but its not the end of the world!, and I'm not the most patient person. In the end I ordered a set of Tavelo Rise bars in 380 × 120 mm.
On my SL9 I currently run a flat bar setup with an 18 mm spacer stack. The THM bars I'm using now have a 6° rise, whereas the Tavelo bars use a 10° rise. Once you factor in the head tube angle, I should only need the cone spacer and the single 10 mm spacer under the bars to achieve my position and the Tavelo also gives me a cleaner front-end setup with fewer spacers while keeping the same fit.
Looking forward to this build with your custom paint request :o and review.
I'd likely mimic the same build with a tavelo riser, but im still on the fence till more people share experiences with it.
Quote from: chanchvn on October 12, 2026, 07:46:36 PM
Looking forward to this build with your custom paint request :o and review.
I'd likely mimic the same build with a tavelo riser, but im still on the fence till more people share experiences with it.
It's going to be at least 6-8 weeks before anything happens 15days production then shipping maybe 10-14days then build.
I will get an excel on the go for estimated weight as I have a the group set and parts from my X68.
Frame is claimed 850g in medium but the finish apparently will add some weight which I knew would be the case.
I should still be able hopefully to get to 6.8kgs ;D. but we will see.
I'm like many keen to hear what Patrick has to say.
Patrick whens the seatpost turning up.
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 13, 2026, 11:25:15 PM
It's going to be at least 6-8 weeks before anything happens 15days production then shipping maybe 10-14days then build.
I will get an excel on the go for estimated weight as I have a the group set and parts from my X68.
Frame is claimed 850g in medium but the finish apparently will add some weight which I knew would be the case.
I should still be able hopefully to get to 6.8kgs ;D. but we will see.
I'm like many keen to hear what Patrick has to say.
Patrick whens the seatpost turning up.
Have you talked to Daniel about the new riser bar they have? In his recent post, for his bike, you can see a riser bar. Maybe that would pair well as it comes from the same factory.
Quote from: JensenMacD on October 14, 2026, 06:15:23 AM
Have you talked to Daniel about the new riser bar they have? In his recent post, for his bike, you can see a riser bar. Maybe that would pair well as it comes from the same factory.
Hi mate I did. His bar is 30mm and I did not want a rise that steep.
I bit the bullet and ordered the Tavelo Rise with ACR spacer kit
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 13, 2026, 11:25:15 PM
Patrick whens the seatpost turning up.
No word from Daniel about shipping yet...
It's already been shipped via UPS Hong Kong — you should receive it within a week.
pics of the light cycling riser handlebar on fb.
God damn those risers bars are ugly, spacers make it even worse.
Quote from: kubackje on October 15, 2026, 08:25:04 AM
God damn those risers bars are ugly, spacers make it even worse.
Much like the winspace hyper 2.0's, these type of riser bar designs are an eye sore
Yeah I was talking about riser bara in general, but gotta admit the one from winspace lead the charge in ugliness
Quote from: kubackje on October 15, 2026, 01:07:24 PM
Yeah I was talking about riser bara in general, but gotta admit the one from winspace lead the charge in ugliness
As someone who plans to buy riser bars, i have a vested interest in claiming they CAN look good.
Pogi's Y1RS bars look nice, no? i like the fact that they did something different. i think it's an incredibly hard bike to ride without looking ridiculous, but at least it's not another SL8/9.
I feel riser bars need a recessed headtube to look good
Quote from: Vasegaard on October 16, 2026, 01:50:45 AM
I feel riser bars need a recessed headtube to look good
True that, recessed if there is much stem angle. Or mild raised bar profile like the Tavelo Rise or the HBR17.
But that light cycling riser bar doesn`t fit the RF10 at all
There's also a standard handlebar option for road bikes, made by Longteng — 350g, available in a wide range of sizes.
Quote from: Vasegaard on October 16, 2026, 01:50:45 AM
I feel riser bars need a recessed headtube to look good
I think you make a very good point. But from a rider's perspective, there might still be room for improvement — after all, 90% of the time, the one looking at my bike is me.
And from that viewpoint it's pretty nice looking
RF10 finish update! The custom 12K carbon fabric arrived at Light Cycling this week! 🔥
12K carbon weave to be laid at 45 degrees in gloss, with matching seatposts. Hopefully it turns out as planned! :D
The 12K finish was the reason for going with the RF10 over the Tan Tan x68.
I originally asked Tantan whether they could do the X68 in this particular 12K weave, but they said no.
When I asked Daniel, he initially said it wouldn't be a problem. However, I think he then realised they didn't have the material available and it was more difficult than planned , so it had to be sourced. It took around a week, but the fabric has now arrived. So I take my hat off to him sorting that out which I'm impressed with.
The weave has 8 × 8 mm squares, and I've specifically asked for it to be laid at 45 degrees to give it a diamond pattern rather than the usual square appearance. The frame, fork and both seatposts (I have ordered both set backs) will have the same 12K finish with a gloss clearcoat. Basically I am copy and Instagrammer Le Pedaler Quick Pro GR ONE that is finished like this.
For the logos the LIGHT CYCLING lettering on the downtube has a 1 mm outline rather than solid lettering, allowing the carbon weave to show throughabd this is including the head tube logo and the surger rf10 logo.
All the logos will be Pantone Cool Gray 7 C, including the LC head tube logo and the smaller SURGE RF10 lettering on the seat stay.
I have mentioned to Daniel that his head tube logo, although it's meant to represent an L and a C, looks a bit like a G to me. Personally, I think a small break where the two letters meet would make it clearer. I don't think he's planning to change it, but hopefully it'll look better once it's on the frame.
I also changed my Tavelo Rise bar order down to a 110 mm from 120 mm after going round in circles for two days reading information online about how these bloody bars are sized!
Tavelo seem to measure their stem lengths differently for some reason, so the effective stem length ends up being around 10 mm longer compared with some other brands. From what I've seen, the measurement isn't taken from the centre of the steerer clamp bolt but slightly further forward. And I also found my old bike mechanics you tube video where he measured two Tarmac SL8 using a laser through the centre of the fork thru axles one bike with the rapid bar and one with the Tavelo Avro and the Tavelo comes up 10mm longer.
Now I'm sure some will say it's right and other will say it wrong makes no difference now the order has been changed. And I may attempt myself to strip the Matt paint from the bars and finish them in RAW UD gloss not sure if I am brave enough to attempt it yet! Lol
Will also give a carbon Ryet saddle ago was £35 on Ali so worth a go!
Current estimates put the bike at 6.6kg. A 54cm frame is 850g estimated and the 12K finish is heavier I have been told buy 70-100g. I'm aware this Finnish would add weight so it definitely will be interesting to see where it ends up could end up being a 1kg frame but I have used 950g in the estimate and 1275g wheelset.
Patrick when are you expecting the seat post to arrive!
i've been looking at the available "SL9 clone" options.
To me the RF10 and the Spcycle R099 seem identical. Even the tech. drawings published are the same. Since Daniel doesn't produce himself, i assume he sources from Shenzhen Disai Industrial Co., Ltd? I am not an expert on chinese production facilities and the ties btw. the various companies, but am i wrong on this? what do you think?
Quote from: MarioCanario on October 21, 2026, 05:21:09 AMi've been looking at the available "SL9 clone" options.
To me the RF10 and the Spcycle R099 seem identical. Even the tech. drawings published are the same. Since Daniel doesn't produce himself, i assume he sources from Shenzhen Disai Industrial Co., Ltd? I am not an expert on chinese production facilities and the ties btw. the various companis, but am i wrong on this? what do you think?
Same mold, different lay-up perhaps?
Hi, just ordered this one and looking for a stem as I am still working ob my bike fit.
Any idea if this one fits? https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGLxGHc (https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGLxGHc)
Quote from: Lebie89 on October 23, 2026, 03:44:06 PMHi, just ordered this one and looking for a stem as I am still working ob my bike fit.
Any idea if this one fits? https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGLxGHc (https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGLxGHc)
Well the RF10 uses the FSA ACR system of spacers so provided this is ACR compatible it should work
Quote from: MarioCanario on October 21, 2026, 05:21:09 AMi've been looking at the available "SL9 clone" options.
To me the RF10 and the Spcycle R099 seem identical. Even the tech. drawings published are the same. Since Daniel doesn't produce himself, i assume he sources from Shenzhen Disai Industrial Co., Ltd? I am not an expert on chinese production facilities and the ties btw. the various companies, but am i wrong on this? what do you think?
Yes, it's exactly the same frame. The RF10 is an open-mould frameset.
I've actually spoken to Daniel at Light Cycling about this as I thought it was exclusive to them, and he was very open about it.
So I did ask why should anyone buy from him over anyone else.
The difference is more in the preparation, finishing and attention to detail rather than the actual frame itself.
Daniel explained that Light Cycling works closely with the factory and he has a very close relationship with them, and has also contributed to certain aspects of the product, including developing its own zero-offset seatpost.
He also explained that they carry out additional preparation before shipping. For example, they clean and re-cut the T47 bottom bracket threads using the correct tooling, use professional cleaning agents and pre-install the internal cable guides.
But if the 0 offset is exclusive to LC thats a bonus.
I will contact SPcycle myself and see what they say
According to Daniel, these are additional steps that other sellers offering the same frameset don't necessarily carry out.
So make of that what you will!
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 12, 2026, 08:10:57 AMIdeally, I'd like to see if they can produce an integrated solution so I can get the bars slammed as much as possible. The Surge geometry is pretty much identical to the SL8/SL9, only around 3mm lower. On my SL9 I already run a 10mm and 5mm spacer with a 3mm handlebar spacer (18mm) so I'm definitely not looking to end up with 20mm plus another 25mm of rise.
If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears.
I have to ask the obvious. If you're worried about stack height being too high, why in the heck are you even considering a riser bar? That makes no sense. The obvious solution seems to be just get a normal bar. Am I missing something here?
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 24, 2026, 04:26:04 AMWell the RF10 uses the FSA ACR system of spacers so provided this is ACR compatible it should work
It's not a FSA ACR top cap or spacers. I thought it was too but it's slightly different. Just a heads up.
Frameset came in today. Initial inspection is really good but I couldn't get it built up. A couple quick weights below. Size 58, glossy clear coat over raw carbon.
Frame: 936g bare
Fork: 421g uncut
Seatpost: 174g
(https://i.imgur.com/xvdH96B.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/y1aT29f.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RQGXAUN.jpeg)
Seatpost looks identical to SL8, SL9, Crux. Could drop some weight their with a lightweight option but I don't care too much. Finish is impeccable. I've had a TanTan frame in the past and it was garbage in comparison. This looks comparable to high end western brands. Brake caliper mounts look clean and flat, BB threads are clean.
One note that got me was that the headset top cap and spacers are not FSA ACR. I bought an FSA to Roval transition spacer and it doesn't match up. I had to modify one of the LightCycling spacers to get it to work and the shape is completely different. It'll work but it doesn't look super clean which is a bummer.
Groupset I'm using will be the Sentyeh ECS Pro (WhaleRoad R7) 12-14 speed with the levers that look like SRAM E1. I have a Goldix 12s 10-28t, a SRAM 12s 10-33t, and a SRAM 13s 10-46t that I'll be switching back and forth as needed. Going with a 50t front for now on SRAM Red cranks because that's what I have laying around.
More pictures to come in the next few days.
Are these patches on the rear triangle normal ?
Quote from: Tpower59 on October 31, 2026, 07:18:48 AMAre these patches on the rear triangle normal ?
These are the joints where the front and rear triangles meet... this is normal😉
They are usually hidden beneath the paint, but they are there.
Unless the frame is made using monocoque construction, in which case the entire frame is crafted as a single piece.
Hola, estoy dudando entre comprar el cuadro Lightcycling Surge RF10 o el SPcycle R099, la geometría es prácticamente la misma, por lo que he visto. A nivel de acabados es mucho mejor el RF10 que el R099? se podría decir que esta un escalón por encima del R099? Creo que podría haber una diferencia de unos 150€-200€ entre uno y otro. Creéis que merece la pena gastar un poco más de dinero y asegurar esa calidad en acabados?
Quote from: Melliru on October 31, 2026, 11:58:42 AMHola, estoy dudando entre comprar el cuadro Lightcycling Surge RF10 o el SPcycle R099, la geometría es prácticamente la misma, por lo que he visto. A nivel de acabados es mucho mejor el RF10 que el R099? se podría decir que esta un escalón por encima del R099? Creo que podría haber una diferencia de unos 150€-200€ entre uno y otro. Creéis que merece la pena gastar un poco más de dinero y asegurar esa calidad en acabados?
Yo he comprado el LightCycling Surge RF10, aunque todavía no lo he recibido.
Por lo que tengo entendido, el RF10 y el SPcycle R099 proceden del mismo fabricante. Creo que una de las principales diferencias está en la calidad de la pintura y los acabados que ofrece LightCycling.
He estado hablando bastante con Daniel, de LightCycling, por WhatsApp y, sinceramente, mi experiencia hasta ahora ha sido muy buena. Es muy atento, responde rápidamente y la comunicación ha sido excelente.
Precisamente hoy me ha enviado fotos y vídeos de mi cuadro terminado, que debería enviarse la próxima semana. He elegido el acabado de carbono 12K.
Daniel también me ha explicado que realizan algunos trabajos adicionales de acabado que otros vendedores no suelen ofrecer. Creo que puede tratarse de procesos de alisado y pulido de la superficie, algo que también he visto cuando he mandado pintar mis bicicletas de forma personalizada, aunque no puedo confirmarlo.
Todavía no tengo el cuadro en mis manos, así que no puedo valorar personalmente la calidad final ni compararlo directamente con el R099.
Pero, por mi experiencia hasta ahora, si la diferencia es de 150–200 €, personalmente creo que merece la pena considerar LightCycling, tanto por los acabados como por la atención y la comunicación que ofrecen.
Quote from: Melliru on October 31, 2026, 11:58:42 AMHola, estoy dudando entre comprar el cuadro Lightcycling Surge RF10 o el SPcycle R099, la geometría es prácticamente la misma, por lo que he visto. A nivel de acabados es mucho mejor el RF10 que el R099? se podría decir que esta un escalón por encima del R099? Creo que podría haber una diferencia de unos 150€-200€ entre uno y otro. Creéis que merece la pena gastar un poco más de dinero y asegurar esa calidad en acabados?
Yo he comprado el LightCycling Surge RF10, aunque todavía no lo he recibido.
Por lo que tengo entendido, el RF10 y el SPcycle R099 proceden del mismo fabricante. Creo que una de las principales diferencias está en la calidad de la pintura y los acabados que ofrece LightCycling.
He estado hablando bastante con Daniel, de LightCycling, por WhatsApp y, sinceramente, mi experiencia hasta ahora ha sido muy buena. Es muy atento, responde rápidamente y la comunicación ha sido excelente.
Precisamente hoy me ha enviado fotos y vídeos de mi cuadro terminado, que debería enviarse la próxima semana. He elegido el acabado de carbono 12K.
Daniel también me ha explicado que realizan algunos trabajos adicionales de acabado que otros vendedores no suelen ofrecer. Creo que puede tratarse de procesos de alisado y pulido de la superficie, algo que también he visto cuando he mandado pintar mis bicicletas de forma personalizada, aunque no puedo confirmarlo.
Todavía no tengo el cuadro en mis manos, así que no puedo valorar personalmente la calidad final ni compararlo directamente con el R099.
Pero, por mi experiencia hasta ahora, si la diferencia es de 150–200 €, personalmente creo que merece la pena considerar LightCycling, tanto por los acabados como por la atención y la comunicación que ofrecen.
(https://i.imgur.com/Shk1tui.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AJRESBr.jpeg)
Left is the Light Cycling Spacer. Right is FSA ACR. Also noticed the LC spacer the hose holes aren't connected to the fork hole. So you can't remove/add spacers without messing with the hoses. I might cut the spacers to allow this. Not a great design for integrated systems.
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 31, 2026, 01:16:25 PMYo he comprado el LightCycling Surge RF10, aunque todavía no lo he recibido.
Por lo que tengo entendido, el RF10 y el SPcycle R099 proceden del mismo fabricante. Creo que una de las principales diferencias está en la calidad de la pintura y los acabados que ofrece LightCycling.
He estado hablando bastante con Daniel, de LightCycling, por WhatsApp y, sinceramente, mi experiencia hasta ahora ha sido muy buena. Es muy atento, responde rápidamente y la comunicación ha sido excelente.
Precisamente hoy me ha enviado fotos y vídeos de mi cuadro terminado, que debería enviarse la próxima semana. He elegido el acabado de carbono 12K.
Daniel también me ha explicado que realizan algunos trabajos adicionales de acabado que otros vendedores no suelen ofrecer. Creo que puede tratarse de procesos de alisado y pulido de la superficie, algo que también he visto cuando he mandado pintar mis bicicletas de forma personalizada, aunque no puedo confirmarlo.
Todavía no tengo el cuadro en mis manos, así que no puedo valorar personalmente la calidad final ni compararlo directamente con el R099.
Pero, por mi experiencia hasta ahora, si la diferencia es de 150–200 €, personalmente creo que merece la pena considerar LightCycling, tanto por los acabados como por la atención y la comunicación que ofrecen.
Yo he comprado el LightCycling Surge RF10, aunque todavía no lo he recibido.
Por lo que tengo entendido, el RF10 y el SPcycle R099 proceden del mismo fabricante. Creo que una de las principales diferencias está en la calidad de la pintura y los acabados que ofrece LightCycling.
He estado hablando bastante con Daniel, de LightCycling, por WhatsApp y, sinceramente, mi experiencia hasta ahora ha sido muy buena. Es muy atento, responde rápidamente y la comunicación ha sido excelente.
Precisamente hoy me ha enviado fotos y vídeos de mi cuadro terminado, que debería enviarse la próxima semana. He elegido el acabado de carbono 12K.
Daniel también me ha explicado que realizan algunos trabajos adicionales de acabado que otros vendedores no suelen ofrecer. Creo que puede tratarse de procesos de alisado y pulido de la superficie, algo que también he visto cuando he mandado pintar mis bicicletas de forma personalizada, aunque no puedo confirmarlo.
Todavía no tengo el cuadro en mis manos, así que no puedo valorar personalmente la calidad final ni compararlo directamente con el R099.
Pero, por mi experiencia hasta ahora, si la diferencia es de 150–200 €, personalmente creo que merece la pena considerar LightCycling, tanto por los acabados como por la atención y la comunicación que ofrecen.
Gracias por compartir to experiencia. Por cierto, ese acabado 12k es espectacular 👌
Quote from: Eddy_Twerckx on October 30, 2026, 07:05:52 PMIt's not a FSA ACR top cap or spacers. I thought it was too but it's slightly different. Just a heads up.
Thank you very much for the headsup! Can you maybe tell me what bearings are used in the headset?is the top bearing 45°/45° and lower bearing 36°/45°?
Quote from: Lebie89 on October 31, 2026, 03:49:41 PMThank you very much for the headsup! Can you maybe tell me what bearings are used in the headset?is the top bearing 45°/45° and lower bearing 36°/45°?
I think they're the same. But I didn't look to see if that's 36/45 or 45/45 for both. Either that or I got lucky installing because I didn't really check to distinguish top vs bottom. Oops.
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Code name: Black Widow.
Better look at the spacer situation.
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But I was able to speak with Daniel and they do have an FSA ACR top cap and spacer kit that he's sending me. Pretty great service. And if you want the FSA system be sure to ask.
Only one ride so far but it's nice. I don't want to comment too much now because it was more of a quick shakeout ride rather than any kind of testing. I have a local loop that I run for aero testing that I'll be riding soon. More to come.
Edit: Oh, and you can definitely run a 38-39mm WAM tire depending on risk tolerance. It clears the seatstay by 6mm but chainstays are a bit tighter, around 2-3mm. That was with a 38.7mm WAM GP5000 35. The picture above measure are GP5000 32, measuring 34.9mm. Tons of room with those.
Edit: 7.11kg with pedals, cages, computer mount but no bar tape. Size 58.
That's a great looking bike and the weight in 58!!!
Quote from: Eddy_Twerckx on October 30, 2026, 07:02:04 PMI have to ask the obvious. If you're worried about stack height being too high, why in the heck are you even considering a riser bar? That makes no sense. The obvious solution seems to be just get a normal bar. Am I missing something here?
Hi mate there's really nothing more to it than I simply want to try a riser bar on this bike.
I can run an 18mm spacer setup, as I do on my SL9, without any issues, and I could quite easily fit a regular bar.
But both my other bikes already have regular bars, and I fancy trying something different on this build.
It's simply personal preference.
By the way Your bike looks great.
Mine should be shipped this week.
And I will double check regrading spacers.
I did checked a couple of weeks ago and Daniel said they do ACR so I will reconfirm.
In term of finish he said where he gets his frames painted is world class and the same place where many well western brands get there bikes painted apparently. The finish does look good in the photos. Good to hear positive feedback back in frame finishing though, hopefully ride report will also be a postive one
And yes 7.11kgs in 58cm not bad not bad at all!
Quote from: Eddy_Twerckx on October 30, 2026, 07:16:55 PMFrameset came in today. Initial inspection is really good but I couldn't get it built up. A couple quick weights below. Size 58, glossy clear coat over raw carbon.
Frame: 936g bare
Fork: 421g uncut
Seatpost: 174g
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Seatpost looks identical to SL8, SL9, Crux. Could drop some weight their with a lightweight option but I don't care too much. Finish is impeccable. I've had a TanTan frame in the past and it was garbage in comparison. This looks comparable to high end western brands. Brake caliper mounts look clean and flat, BB threads are clean.
One note that got me was that the headset top cap and spacers are not FSA ACR. I bought an FSA to Roval transition spacer and it doesn't match up. I had to modify one of the LightCycling spacers to get it to work and the shape is completely different. It'll work but it doesn't look super clean which is a bummer.
Groupset I'm using will be the Sentyeh ECS Pro (WhaleRoad R7) 12-14 speed with the levers that look like SRAM E1. I have a Goldix 12s 10-28t, a SRAM 12s 10-33t, and a SRAM 13s 10-46t that I'll be switching back and forth as needed. Going with a 50t front for now on SRAM Red cranks because that's what I have laying around.
More pictures to come in the next few days.
Question front caliper adapter is it SL8/9 style or Universal?
Any photos of Thru Axles would be great if possible please 🙏
I'm looking at aftermarket lighter options have asked Daniel for specifications but no luck!
Quote from: Sander2177 on <strong>Today</strong> at 04:56:06 AMQuestion front caliper adapter is it SL8/9 style or Universal?
Any photos of Thru Axles would be great if possible please 🙏
I'm looking at aftermarket lighter options have asked Daniel for specifications but no luck!
Standard front caliper mount. I'll take some pics and get measurements of the thru axles later today.