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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Quote from: patliean1 on March 04, 2023, 01:25:43 PM
Did you really put S-Works decals on your frame?

What's it to you? Let the man do what he wants. I find it good jest to be honest.
March 06, 2023, 02:05:03 AM 		1
Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Quote from: Eddy_Twerckx on March 07, 2023, 02:57:52 PM
Hey guys, new to the forum. Wanted to show my upcoming 168 build. I’ll link the weightweenies thread at the bottom as well for a more in-depth build process. My painted size 58 came in at 1,155g with 380g for the cut fork. Not bad with the white paint. The fork is well under a lot of what I’ve seen here and I’m wondering if it’s a different fork, or one from the 177. So a question for the group: did your fork have an integrated crown race or did you need one? I needed one (you can see from the picture below) and they supplied it thankfully, but from pictures on here it seems most other have an integrated crown race and I’m thinking I got a different fork. Other quick thoughts on the cockpit. Has anybody tried the Allez top cap with the SL7 stem. Seems like it would work pretty well. And for the hanger, I have a Cube on order that is supposed to be the direct mount hanger compatible with this frame. Plus, it has the benefit of having the threads on the outer piece, adding a safety mechanism should the small screw fall out.


Nice! Looking forward to seeing the build and hearing how the direct hangers works out. Do you have a link for it? Nice work on the 3D covers.
March 08, 2023, 05:30:59 PM 		1
Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame Just picked up my frame today. Gotta say, I’m pretty impressed with the quality, at a glance. Especially the paint job turned out better than expected! Once I get some white decals on, it’ll bridge the transition real nice, I believe
March 09, 2023, 01:26:06 PM 		1
Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Quote from: Eddy_Twerckx on April 02, 2023, 12:54:17 PM


Man, this is a really good looking bike।
April 03, 2023, 09:58:26 AM 		1
Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame Same problem, velobuild says it's my saddle's problem even though a few run the same XD
April 09, 2023, 02:50:01 AM 		1
Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Quote from: BerndSon on April 09, 2023, 03:50:08 PM
...blablabla...
I will try to put some thin metal foil between seat post and frame (like some others already did to prevent slipping) in order to get a even gap on both sides in clamped condition and will report about the outcome.
...blablabla...

Finally found some minutes to elaborate on this topic!

in Short:
my saddle looked the same as for Siejak, - I was able to fix it by inserting three small sheets of a soda can metal foil  at the right side between Seatpost and Frame.  By doing so, the Saddle was perfectly aligned.

To those who are affected, - just loosen your seatpost clamp and try to rotate the saddle to the left and right. I was able to rotate it by approx. ± 5 degree. As soon as the clamping device is tensioned, the notch of the saddle rotates to the right and the gap between seatpost and frame looks like described in the prior post.

If someone is motivated to dig deeper: Maybe the root cause for the misalignment is not the huge clearance between seatpost and frame but the contact angle of clamping inlet to seatpost. (=clamping device forces the seatpost to rotate). If thats the case, modifying the clamping device would also solve the problem.

For the time being, i will continue with my fix since it simply worked.

The dust cap covers the shims perfectly, - they are invisible now and the saddle is perfectly aligned when clamped with 5-6Nm.

kind regards
April 11, 2023, 05:18:36 PM 		1
Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame Awesome and unique looking build!


Quote from: Eddy_Twerckx on April 16, 2023, 05:37:14 PM
Ready to race! Got the bars wrapped and brakes bled. Took it out for a shakedown ride and everything feels great. I think I'd be hard pressed to tell much of a difference between this and the SL7, apart from weight making the SL7 slightly more snappy. I went 1x because this will be a crit bike and I didn't feel like dealing with routing another cable and a front mech. If I upgrade to electronic in the future I'd probably throw on a front mech but this was a budget build so I'm happy with the mech group I had laying around. Considering buying some decals for the wheels. I don;t like the new Zipp logo, think I'd go with the old logo in white. I love the look of white logos on wheels.

168 Frameset, size 58
Zipp 404 Firecrest wheels, Challenge Criterium RS tires 27mm, Muc Off valve stems, 160/140 discs
Shimano 105 mech grupo, 50t AbsoluteBlack chainring, 11-30t cassette
Kocevlo 1 piece bar/stem, 40cm/120mm, LizardSkins tape, Supacaz bar ends and stem cap
West Biking 3D printed saddle
ZTTO bottle cages
Look Pedals
Rapilock thru axles
Garmin 530, Garmin Varia
GoPro 8 on a custom 3D printed mount






Handlebars: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804787569282.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.17.79411802DclcYZ&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US
Saddle: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804999444467.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.10.79411802DclcYZ&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US
Bottle cages: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800808341640.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.184.4ba218023whaeR&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US
April 18, 2023, 10:19:31 AM 		1
Re: Winspace T1550 new frame?
Quote from: Eddy_Twerckx on May 17, 2023, 07:02:06 AM
Interesting, I’m having a very different experience with the 168. Very little difference between it and my Tarmac SL7 apart from weight. And I’m no world tour sprinter but even pushing 1600W in a sprint it feels great. It’s my dedicated crit bike now over my SL7 for the crash replacement ability. And at less than half the price of an Allez Sprint, there’s no way I’d pick the Allez over it.

It's just a personal opinion from an amateur racer I would take that with a grain of salt as people win races on much worse bikes than a VBR-168.

Engine still is the biggest factor.
May 17, 2023, 12:01:37 PM 		1
Re: WheelTop EDX OS Series Wireless MTB Drivetrain
Quote from: numberzero on May 24, 2023, 06:00:26 AM
What is the point of buying wheeltop edx while a GX AXS is cheaper and proven?
Or is the quality of wheeltop more on the same level as XX1 groupset?
Here is why I went this direction versus SRAM.

-  Weight, my EDS OX, with battery, weighs 350 grams.   XX1 weighs 373 grams, X01 =390 grams, GX-AXS weighs 463 grams.

-  My inspection indicates that the manufacturing, quality and finish of the EDS is right up there with XX1 and XO1.  (Therefore my cost delta comparison is EDS VS at least X01)

-  (Not that I need this feature) but using the WheelTop app, lets you reconfigure the derailleur to work with 8 through 13 speed cassettes compatible with almost all brands of cassettes.)  Wow! something generic in the world of proprietary shifting systems where the the 3 big boys intentionally change and make your groupset obsolete every few years and you can't mix and match parts between brands, because they "optimize" shifting to one set of specific parts.

- At least to date, the shifting is smooth, fast, and quiet and with only a push of the button.  Side note:  I have been wanting to go electric/wireless for a couple years now because of a right wrist injury and increasing arthritis on the back of my hands that causes sharp pain having to shift standard Mtn bike shift pods)

Time will tell if I still love this product a year from now.
May 24, 2023, 09:48:04 AM 		1
Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets I guess the saving grace of it being such a close to a 105 Di2 copy is that they've copied a time-proven design. It's not like they've created something from scratch leaving alot of room for error. My guess is that there may be problems with the app and firmware more than the physical units but that's just a guess. I'm also very interested in this but may wait for the second version, although er9 is tempting for the price
June 08, 2023, 08:54:05 AM 		1