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Re: Eddie's Airwolf YFR066 Build Thread
Finally got my first short ride in with the bike fully assembled (Seattle and the rainy weather bleh). Bike is very agile, frame is not totally noodley for me, but could be stiffer. If I were to do it again, still would consider throwing a couple hundred more on a different frame. Anyways thought I'd drop a photo to share the complete build. Happy with the Di2 105 drivetrain too! Total weight clocked in at 8.1kg including pedals, tires, tape, water bottle cages... everything you see here minus the water bottle itself. Not bad! January 19, 2024, 06:30:17 PM |
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Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
Now it seems WheelTop is upping their game with reviews through Trace Velo and GC Performance. People will tend to listen to these influencers on Youtube. I tried my best to bring up the product at the start of my journey. Guess its over to these big hitters now 
March 27, 2024, 12:40:24 PM |
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Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
To reiterate: again, no other pret a porter molds are being sold this expensive by a Chinese brand Not exactly true. Here are some examples in this price range: Tavelo attack 9800(no bars) / 11800rmb('ice crack' paint job) Tavelo arow 9800rmb(11500rmb with one piece bar) Seka exceed 9990rmb Elilee blize 10800rmb Pardus spark evo 11000-13000rmb(resell price on 闲鱼. Not sold frameset only) Winspace t1550 12500rmb Tavelo arow SL 12800rmb(14500rmb with one piece bar) Seka spear 15990rmb Bross zenith plume 15999rmb and the existing customers are paying much less for the Attack than the Arrow. Attack and arow non SL are same price. SL is 3000rmb($415) more to save 110g. Pretty steep but im sure thats not going to stop people from buying it(in china) And it looks shite vs stuff like Seka / Bross etc. Thats just your opinion. Not a fact May 09, 2024, 06:25:44 AM |
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Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
The chris miller podcast from a day or 2 ago was interesting, giving the perspective of experienced racers with regards to expensive chinese brands with western backed aero claims. Among other things, the old "if it's expensive it's got to be good" was mentioned, and as cringe as it may be to some, it often rings true to many, and that's how some brands manage to command a premium for no tangible / dubious reason(s).
May 09, 2024, 08:23:29 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
You do you! i considered buying one myself for many weeks, and i'm not saying it's a bad frame, in fact i think it's a great frame! i was just detailing my thought process as i figured it could be useful to some. For me that's actually what is more valuable in these forums. Analysing the different reasoning and mental model different people use to select frames/bikes/products. Question them and take my conclusions and decisions. Thanks for sharing your inputs May 15, 2024, 08:47:22 AM |
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Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
For those of us in Australia, you can pick up 14500 batteries from Jaycar that do the trick perfectly with this groupset. Don't get the Bunnings ones, they won't work properly.
August 06, 2024, 06:50:26 PM |
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Winspace C5 - Build & Thoughts
I have had a Winspace C5 for 3 weeks (700km) now and I thought some of you might be interested in a build log and some of my thoughts. My previous bike was a Canyon Endurace CF SL8 that developed a crack in the chainstay. I really liked the bike, but I wanted something with a more aggressive geometry. I'm quite lightweight (62kg) so my experience might not be the same as a heavier person (or more powerful). I like long and climby rides. These were some of the criteria I had for the frame: - Preferably T47 or BSA - Internal cable routing without a D-shaped fork - Less aggressive than a full-on race bike, more aggressive than my Canyon - Good/proven quality - Has to look good - Separate stem/handlebar - 32mm tyre clearance For me, the Winspace Agile was a bit too aggressive, and I didn't see much advantage in the slightly lighter frame. Also, the geo is more aggressive, so I would need more spacers (who doesn't like slammed stems). The C5 has a BB86 bottom bracket; I'd prefer something threaded, but you can't always get what you want. I also liked the FSA headset; this way I could run the stem and handlebars I wanted. Because I will be traveling with the frame, I didn't want a one-piece bar and stem. I saw Mapdec recommend the Deda Superbox system, which is compatible with the FSA 1.5-inch steerer system. FSA uses bearings with a 45x36 angle (supplied with the frame), while the Deda system uses bearings with a 45x45 angle. Luckily, Deda supplies a compression ring that is also compatible with the FSA bearings, so I didn't need to change the bearings. The frame is supplied with a Token TK299 expander plug, and this is probably a fine expander. But I couldn't get all the play out of the headset. I torqued the Token expander to 4 nm, and there was some play in the headset. I tried a Deda 70 mm expander, and now the play was gone. I think I cut the carbon steerer slightly too long for the Token to get the play out; the minimum distance (between the stem and carbon steerer) for the Token is less than for the Deda, it seems. Build - Winspace C5 MM (485) - 105 Di2, except the crank is Ultegra - Bikone DCTech BB86-92 Bottom bracket - Deda Superbox DCR - Pro Vibe Aero (38 cm) (36 cm would've been nice too, but the Canyon had 42 cm bars, and I didn't want to change too much) - SQLab 612R Saddle - Zipp 303S with Erase Road Hubs (the original hubs were extremely bad; bearings wore out very fast) (came from the Canyon) - Goodyear F1R 32 mm tyres (came from the Canyon) - BBB BHT-14 bartape - HideMyBell Raceday DM Garmin mount - Decathlon bottle cages - Favero Assioma MX-2 pedals - CYCEARTH 1.5M/Pack 1.5M Internal Housing Foam Shock Absorber 6mm Bike Hose Shift/Brake/Hydraulic Hose (very cheap, works very well) The bike weighs 8.4kg with garmin mount, bell, bottle cages and pedals (which are SPD so heavy). This obviously isn't a weight weenie build but for me the weight isn't an issue. I will be looking to upgrade some components in the future to get the weight down (cassette, wheels, cranks). Building the bike was super easy. I watched Klein Concept's build of the Agile, and you can basically apply everything to the C5. Routing the cables was very easy. The headset bearings and bottom bracket installed easily, the surfaces were smooth. The brake mounts looked like they were taped off properly before painting, i have no issues with brake rub. Some of my thoughts: - Electronic shifting is amazing. My mechanical Ultegra worked extremely well, but electronic is something else. - The Canyon comes with a VCLS flexible seatpost and is very comfortable. I was doubtful that the Winspace would be as comfortable. The Winspace is noticeably stiffer, but it isn't uncomfortable at all. I much prefer the ride feel of the Winspace; it is much more direct, and the power is transferred way more directly. This is especially noticeable when pedaling out of the saddle. Overall, I'm super happy with the bike. The Canyon feels very flexy compared to it. The comfort is not an issue at all (probably because of the 32 mm tyres). Taking corners and descending is really fun with this bike; it feels like it wants to go fast, while I had to coax the Canyon into going faster. If you have any questions feel free to ask 
August 07, 2024, 01:40:04 PM |
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Re: Frame for mix road/gravel use possible?
Thanks everyone for all the good suggestion, I’ll start putting numbers together on the different options. Carbondale would be my first choice without budget constraint but I am not sur I can get there budget wise starting with that frame. If you want a gravel bike that's fast on road then I can recommend same build as I have. Sp cycle g056. I have a fast road bike Scott addict rc pro so I know what a fast bike feels like. My sp cycle with the the setup I have is a weapon on and off road with very fast tires tufo thundero HD 44c. It weighs just 8.5kg. I do all kind of riding on it from single tracks, chunky gravel, smooth gravel to long tarmac rides. I even got few KOMs on tarmac with it. it's fast. But yeah it's a copy of willies jena, when it came out it was considered as s fast gravel bike. My stem -17 and narrow aero handlebars with flare also help me getting into nice aero position. It's not as good in the corners like a my road bike but hey not many bikes are better then top tier scott. August 11, 2024, 12:37:20 PM |
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Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
RD301D is coming along nicely, just finished painting. Should be shipped out next week.
August 13, 2024, 11:12:51 AM |
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Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
Mine will be shipping shortly as well!
August 13, 2024, 05:25:14 PM |
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