Hey guys i just got an email from Eddy H about being able to pay them directly for the frames and we could get the discounted price.  I told him i wanted three frames and he asked what color and other info.  Has anybody else been in contact with him? He also asked for paypal info so he could send an invoice for the three frames.  Is this guy the real deal before i send 1800 USD?  I feel way better sending money directly to the company than to a member of chinertown. This is my preferred way?

Eddy and Haideli are legit.

where can i find the color chart?

Color chart is on the first page of this thread.

So Miracle has some listings on AliBaba with full builds of this frame and they're pairing it with 160mm forks.  Someone with more knowledge of geo/this frame vs hightower, do you think it could be run with 210x52.5 shock and 150mm fork to match the hightower?  160f/150r is bit excessive for my area.

Geo on the Miracle and HT are almost exactly the same.

I think the 52.5 and 150 would get you pretty close. The newest HT is 145 mm rear and a 52.5 would be almost the same.

It's been worked out so that Edd will not have to front the money. Everyone will pay Haideli directly.

Here is the link to the frame.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/29er-Full-Suspension-Carbon-Bike-Frame_1600177694157.html?spm=a2706.im-chat.0.0.491c1f8dEhmJfm

Just a quick note about sizing.  The AM831 runs a size larger than the SC. A medium 831 is the same size as a large SC. Below are the numbers for both frames.

If you're unsure about sizing,  here's the link to the SC page. https://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-US/bikes/hightower
AM831


Hightower
 

Dear All:

Really thanks for your supporting of our frame FS-AM831 Enduro Full Suspension bike frame.
Now we have totally confirmed the production time, it would be bulk production on April, and 200 sets would be available in raw marerial around the middle of May.

And we got the bulk order price for you guys.
30 sets, USD540/set( item included frame, headset, BB, thru axle， clamp), not included custom fee, painting and shipping fee.
50 sets, USD499/set( item included frame, headset, BB, thru axle， clamp), not included custom fee, painting and shipping fee.

Now we want to collect the order, since some customer got the different color painting and size.
And the customers from different countries. the shipping way would be differece, we got the shipping, HKEMS, China Post, DHL, WXY( free custom fee）available.

For the painting fee is USD20 for one color(we got the color chart), and USD50 for the chameleon green/purple color, and if you got the customized decals, then please feel free to contact me for the best price.
Any question or help, feel free to let me know.

To collect the order, please feel free to contact me via email and now can be paid the deposit.
Aslo can be chat on wechat, +86 18475368733
email:   eddy@haidelibicycle.com

Waited for you good news.
Thanks
Eddy

Eddy estimated shipping at the end of May.

OK.

RobertRinAustin - Jenny has asked if we're on the same forum and I've confirmed. Somewhat of a pain as I've been faffing with this for a while now but this is good news. I'm sure they communicate on some level. Both said no to individual payments previously.

Miracle have quoted me $540, Top Fire $560. Top Fire have said the frames are different. Both have said the Carbon used is Toray carbon. I also asked about wheels etc and these need 50% payment as well.

So, happy days, bit of a relief to be honest. Who we going with? RobertRinAustin - can you confirm between them if the frames actually are different?

As there is already a sticky for this, I'm happy to edit it for the new terms.

Thanks for all you've done. I figured you'd talked to the same people, but just played dumb. Doubt they would have agreed to individual payments if you hadn't done the ground work. I've asked both for full specs and geo to compare. I've also asked about payment options.

Looks great.  Really like the color.

There is an easy method to work out wheel travel... it is the leverage ratio x the shock travel = wheel travel so to find the leverage ratio we do know that on the specs we have wheel travel is 100mm and shock travel is (165 x)40 so leverage ratio will be 100/40=2.5 so for 42.5 shock travel it will be 42.5x2.5=106.25 - not even 110 unless you can somehow fettle a 45mm stroke shock on there which will give you 112.5
I was hoping to get 120mm travel out of this frame but looks like I'll have to go with either the LCFS937/958 (cracking issues resolved?) or the FM1001 and forgo the flexstay kinematics...

I measured mine at about 118 mm of travel with a 42.5. Could have pushed a little more and probably gotten to 120 pretty easily.

NS list travel at 100 mm with a 37.5 and 120 with a 42.5. Based on my measurements, I see no reason to doubt them. I haven't tested a 37.5 or a 40, but I suspect the 37.5 would give you slightly more than 100 mm of travel.

Frame was mounted level, shock degassed, wheels off and a jack under the rear axle. Didn't push much beyond shock travel to get the 118 mm.

Hey guys,
anyone checked the rear travel when using a 165x42.5 instead of 165x40mm?
Also the tyre clearance when fully compressed with 29x2.35 or 29x2.4 tyres?

Running 42.5 with a Maxxis Ardent 2.4 and no issues.